I now conclude that the memo thing should be dropped ASAP

[JohnnyCougar]

The Bush campaign admits that if we talk about 30 years ago, they are at a disadvantage. We all know that if we talk about the state of the nation, they are at a disadvantage, as well. The only thing that is not bad for them to talk about is the memmos, yet somehow, Rove has managed to divert the debate to just that.

Rather should shut all the critics up by saying the White House didn't object to him running the story. If they claim they needed more than 3 hours to authenticate the documents, it is just proof that the content of the documents is true. If the documents were lies, they would have known THAT SECOND that they were fake. So there is two possibilities: 1. The documents' content was true, or 2. The WH knew they were forgeries and told Rather to run them to embarrass him. Rather should ask the WH which one of these scenarios is true, because it has to be one of them.

On Edit: I'm e-mailing this to Rather and the DNC. I see no drawbacks to using this strategy. Feel free to spread the word! There are only two possibilities: the White House lied or the White House lied!

[Xipe Totec]

1. Apt Cartoon Out Today

On who should resign over forged documents.

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/umedia/20040922/lt.a61175c9dcb342f3a4c0967b882b2440

Dan Rather or George Bush (Yellow Cake)

[TheDebbieDee]

2. Stephen Colbert made exactly the same points........................

on the Daily Show last night.

[JohnnyCougar]

3. great minds think alike

i wish i had cable

[Xipe Totec]

7. Yes, But If You Want to Reach A Republican Audience,

You have to use cartoons and comic books.

Got to know the limits of their attention span. :evilgrin:

[JohnnyCougar]

4. Come to think of it...

this could have been the reason the WH was so tentative coming out and saying they were forgeries...

[BootinUp]

5. STOP answering polls and e-mailing about this issue

That is how they guage interest. If you want it dropped than stop talking about it, like Joe Lockhart told Hummer yesterday.

If anything we should be repeating what Joe said in e-mails to the media.

[DoYouEverWonder]

6. Thanks, for the talking points

whenever someone tells me to stop talking about something, especially when it leads directly back to Karl Rove, just makes want to scream even louder.

Roger Stone is the key to a lot of dirty tricks and it's time his repug ass was exposed.

Say it loud, Memogate, Memogate, Memogate.

[deckerd]

8. Stonegate! Stonegate! Stonegate!

Or, if you prefer, Memogate! After all, freepers started the term :-)

[deckerd]

9. I call BS on the OP

Funny how, the minute DNC for the first time calls out a Republican dirty trickster by name and dares GOP to keep the story going, thereby proving that there is more to the story, some noob comes along and says back off. But then I'm a noob so what do I know? It happened with the McCain ad, catastrophically in my opinion. What are these people, Rove transplants or Shrum transplants? If we're gonna be so paranoid and cautious about bringing down * why not simply take Occam's razor and assume that the most suspect person is Shrum and his shiny happy yuppie DLC allies with their wimpy-ass "we need to stop talking about this, it's too negative, turns off educated voters" bullshit.

In short, yesterday I would have suggested investigating the Burkett-Stone connection PRIVATELY but now that the DNC has come out against Stone and Repubs responded by WITHDRAWING their spokesmen from scheduled talk-shows for a messaging pow-wow, now is NOT the time for Dems to go all soft and (suspiciously) wimpy. I say that as an allied independent voter, mind you.

Hell, Nixon and his protege Stone learned these tactics by infiltrating the PREVIOUS anti-war movement... because they were just TOO easy! You got your overzealous die-hards who can be pushed into following stories before they are corroborated on the one hand, like CBS did (ironically there would have been no story if they hadn't fell for it); and you got your paranoid, close-lipped pollyannas on the other side whose only goal is to appease the swing voters by stirring as little controversy as possible and not engaging in even the cleanest forms of dirty campaigning i.e. the allegations against Stone. Easy to plant a bug in their ear by counseling them to inaction, just like "friendly white folks" did to the Cherokees and Sioux when the gov't was planning to deport them to reservations. When liberals get hauled off to liberal reservations, half of them will STILL be saying "now is not the time to alienate the center-left by trying to discredit * on the character issue!" What Would your opponent Rove Do?

[JohnnyCougar]

11. I understand...stone needed to be brought up....

But we have the WH backed into a corner now...either way, they lied, and we have to use this. It will shut those critics up faster than the Stone story. Why didn't the WH say they were fake? They should have known right away!!!!!

[bigtree]

10. I'll stop talking when Bush answers the questions about his service

and John is elected president.