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global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:32 PM Original message |
You Got To Give Credit To Obama For Sending Bill Clinton...... |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. Bill has not always been my favorite person, but on this one, he is going to get a much-deserved her |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
2. No Drama Obama. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:34 PM Original message |
And it was probably his SECSTATE's idea. Good for Obama for hiring smart help. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
8. It's also possible that likening North Korea to unruly children hurts diplomatic efforts... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. You apparently don't get the old "carrot and stick" concept? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. That is also theoretically possible. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
33. LOL! absolutely f-ing brilliant, and the best explanation i've heard so far. +1. nt |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. for some reason, that post threaded in a completely wrong way. i was not responding to the OP, i was |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. It came out on my "MY DU" under my comment... |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
54. There's something particularly pleasing about KJI... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. I agree - it *is* a good story. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Damn right! nt |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
74. So there's no possibility it's Obama's idea or even...give him credit here?! n/t |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. No. No possibility whatsoever. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
80. It's actually because you don't send the SECSTATE when being blackmailed |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. Or perhaps he was mending fences with Bill by putting this feather in his cap |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. KJI wanted "respect." That's what this was all about. Not "bones" to Clinton. NT |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Exactly. n/t |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. Not bad for a month after the July 4th rocket freakout |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
6. It was a good move, certainly, but I don't think it had a lot to do with them being released... |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
9. Obama is not about Obama. |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
10. Not only that, but Al Gore asked him to go as well. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
45. Oh yeah, you know Al Gore |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 11:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
65. Well, they work for him, so I imagine he was concerned in a personal way. NT |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
11. what Bill Clinton had to do with it? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Oops. Thought you were serious. |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. No one is commenting officially until Clinton and the women are 'wheels up.' |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
39. KJI did |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
13. It's being reported that it was the N. Korean's idea but...... |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
14. Gee, maybe there's something to be said for diplomacy after all! |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
18. I am so glad the women are getting out. Hard diplomatic work by many....including Bill Richardson |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. I was thinking "poor Bill Richardson" |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. No one likes a double-dealer. nt |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. I was trying to bite my tongue. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
63. It's gotta be doubly shitty for him, too. He KNOWS what he did. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:58 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. I didn't know that Biden turned the Clintons onto MV. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 06:19 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I used to go to the Islands all the time. Then the rich and famous got ahold of them. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 08:30 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. How much is the ferry now? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. They haven't gone up too much since last you travelled. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 08:26 AM Response to Reply #73 |
85. Thanks for the info. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. Oh I totally agree |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:59 AM Response to Reply #51 |
68. Yeah? |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
19. EXACTLY. |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
20. indeed |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
21. Too bad Hill could not get the job done |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. There were not going to send any elected or administration official. Clinton was chosen because he |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
83. Don't forget that when President Clinton was in office he had |
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satya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I would imagine she's done quite a bit behind the scenes, but since the US doesn't have diplomatic |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. You are so right! |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Too bad you know very little about diplomacy. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Other parts of that article indicate that there was quiet diplomacy that |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Exactly |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Your link was excellent |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. N. Korea wanted two things: attention and to save face. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. Finally, the voice of reason, fact and sanity! |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Technically they could've sent an administration official |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. That was my point. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Yup, he was really hoping for Bill to visit during his presidency |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Kim is a megalomaniac and has always craved the world's respect. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. Did you see that grin on KJI face, while BC looked so stoic? nt |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Yep, Bill did what he had to do to help bring these women home. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. He looked |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Oh yeah, Bill is still a hottie. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. I told my |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. He's still relatively young, I hope that we do have him for many years. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I doubt that |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 12:25 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. He still drinks? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 07:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. From the article they were willing to meet with just Bill Clinton and John Kerry |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I think they would've taken the Secretary of State or the Vice President |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. Who do you |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 06:21 AM Response to Reply #21 |
70. Well, that's an uninformed comment, but thanks for playing. nt |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
82. Too bad you're an idiot |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
23. Pres Obama is just doing his job by using resources available to him. |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
48. I love Bill Clinton. He was a great president, and Al Gore would have been |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
49. The Big Dawg got 'er done! |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
50. Another report, with some more details.... |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Kudos to everyone involved!!!! |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 10:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Heh. If we can get them back, I'm sure they'll be more careful in the future... |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. These are the times that I think of Cher in "Moonstruck". |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
72. Obama does not have sharing issues |
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traxster (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
75. I love me some Bill Clinton!!!! n/t |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
76. Our Prez, doesn't let ego get in the way- which is one of his |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
77. Agreed. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
78. It was a big ole Team Effort, a win for everyone & I like that! Kudos to all! -eom |
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Raffi Ella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
81. I'm SO proud of President Obama |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
84. Sounds like N. K. asked for him! |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
86. While I am second to none in my admiration for Pres Clinton 's actions here |
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