"Kerry met with North Vietnamese." Swift boat liars, latest ad.

[Cyrano]

The Washington Post today reported that the "Swift Boat Vets for Truth," you know, that group of lying M****r F***ers, have a new ad saying that Kerry met with the North Vietnamese and they're trying to tie it into Jane Fonda (aka "Hanoi Jane" to super-patriotic assholes.)

In 1971, peace talks were going on in Paris between the U.S. Government and North Vietnam. Kerry attended these talks for a short period, but the swift boat scum have turned this into a "Kerry meets with North Vietnamese" commercial.

What fucking sewer rats. Although these "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" have served their country, their actions against Kerry have besmirched their service, their honor, their character and (if such a thing exists) their souls. About the most positive thing I can say about them is, let them rot along with Bush/Cheney/Rove, wherever they finally end up.

(Can't get the url for this Washington Post article. Pull up httm://www.washingtonpost.com. It's one of their lead stories.)

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[Cyrano]

6. Sounds like a freeper comment. Want to clarify what you're talking about?

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[Don Keyhotay]

13. Swift Boat Bedwetters

These creeps seem to think Kerry went to Paris without the approval of our government. Bulls#*t!!! He was clearly trying to get POW's released, using his leadership of the VVAW and active duty status in the Naval Reserves to make his visit legitimate. BWaaah! Bloodlusting crybabies and babykillers!!! They can't stand Kerry's leadership because it led to peace.

[newyawker99]

22. Hi Don Keyhotay!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Southsideirish]

16. If if walks like a duck, etc.

[Joanne98]

9. The Vietnam war was started on a lie just like this one.

there will be thousands of Jane Fonda's before this is over. IF YOU DON'T LIKE WAR PROTESTERS. DON'T LIE ABOUT WAR!!!!

[BlueNomad]

14. blah blah

blah blah blah blah blah blah... I read that first thing this morning. Toss it in with the Swift Boat ads; same folks that went for that will go for this---I don't think it's going have any more impact than it already has... Like I said...blah blah blah blah blah

[cheshire]

2. Kerry and McCain worked to get POWs out of Nam. I believe they did go.

[Bush was AWOL]

3. Another point their followers like to try and make

(although false) is that the Vietnamese have a picture of Kerry in one of their museums bc he helped them win the war. The picture is there w/ John McCain's, but the reason it is there is because the two of them normalized relations with Vietnam in the 90's.

[liveoaktx]

4. I expect that THIS time the Kerry campaign will be ready with immediate

talk-back, and talking points for making the rounds.

[Bandit]

5. Didn't Kissinger meet with them as well?

These people excel at distortion and smear. They are scum almost as low as Rush Limbaugh if that is possible.

[arbusto_baboso]

23. Not only that, but Kissinger LIED to the NV and kept the war going longer

as a result. I guess that makes Henry a "patriot" by wingnut thinking.:crazy:

[NV1962]

8. Hey, Kerry *did* 'talk' with the N-Vietnamese...

He also talked with the S-Vietnamese.

In Paris.

No secret: he acknowledged as much during his testimony before the Senate's Foreign Relations Committee on April 22, 1971.

Text (and even video) of that testimony is amply available.

SOOOOOOO...

Going into "plain" denial doesn't work. What the swiftboatbats need is a good drubbing with THEIR lies -- ranging from the patently FALSE "I served with Kerry" claims -- to the insidious innuendo that talking to the N-Vietnamese somehow constitutes "treason" when he was in Paris representing (among others) VVAW.

Those swiftboatbats need to be HARDBALLED as a disgraceful slowboat packed with rats shilling for a sinking Bush administration that besmirches all Veterans -- past and present -- with their common cowardly, treasonous and mendacious behavior in public.

[underpants]

10. Here is the script of the ad called "Friends"

http://swiftvets.com/friendsscript.html

[swag]

11. Nothing yet on johnkerry.com's "Rapid Response" page

[The_Casual_Observer]

12. This is a desperate move by desperate red necks

I don't think that this kind of nonsense will sway anybody, and if it does, the people who would be influenced by this can't be helped anyway.

[Southsideirish]

18. He has to slam them HARD on this utter crap. I'm waiting for

their "rapid response".

[Thrill]

15. DON'T WASTE TIME DEFENDING THIS

Stay on message. IGNORE. THe swift boat liars

[Cyrano]

19. Wrong. You can't ignore these assholes.

Every lie they put out must be responded to strongly, quickly and with outrage. Dukakis ignored attacks and got buried by poppy Bush's lies.

[Southsideirish]

20. Yes, indeedy, "ignoring" them did him wonders in August!

Sheesh - haven't we learned anything??

[The_Casual_Observer]

21. But it didn't stick

These ads look foolish now, and they aren't getting press exposure anymore. However, I tend to overestimate the intelligence of the public sometimes.

[LoZoccolo]

24. No way.

The rebuttal is quick and effective at making the right-wing look like complete liars that have no respect for voters. We've got to fight this.

[Killarney]

17. Kerry, that bastard

he took time out of his honeymoon in Paris to attend the peace talks with the delegation and to attempt to negotiate the release of American POW's.

What a prick.

Always trying to save American lives, that bastard.