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Fri Sep-17-04 08:16 AM
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| Matthews on Hardball slammed Bush hard. |
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Talking about the CIA intel estimate, said (paraphrased) "The president is out on the campaign trail, saying Iraq isn't as bad as the media makes it out to be, things are improving, democracy is coming. However, the very people who are telling the president whats going on in Iraq are saying that the situation is collapsing. Its not working."
He also said this is THE thing that will kill Bush in the election, if Kerry has 'got the right stuff' to take advantage of it.
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:17 AM
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many of the pundits were saying "If Iraq is going well, Bush will be tough to beat and if it isn't Kerry can win." Well, it looks like they were right, and most of the theater in between then and now ( swift lies, etc) was just that -- entertainment for the easily confused.
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:19 AM
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| 2. Does Tweety have one core value? |
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Has he ever evinced a consistant viewpoint?
The man is seriously hampered by mood swings.
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:33 AM
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| 9. He's been saying he was against the war. |
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But I never noticed it during the runup.
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:22 AM
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| 3. There is much news this morning that Iraq is collapsing .... |
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and how poorly the administration is running the whole thing. Hopefully that will sink in to the 50% who approve of the war.
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:23 AM
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| 4. And Kerry is starting to slam Bush on Iraq |
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Question is.........will the media latch onto this as a top story and start badgering Bush people non-stop on the media shows. I doubt it. Ed Gillepie was on yesterday after the report about how bad things are and will get and after Kerry gave a speech about Bush "lies" about the war in Iraq and Woodfruff never put Gillespie's feet in the fire. He was still was allowed to prattle on about flip-flops and what is Kerry's policy in Iraq.
It's about time that the media realize that this is Bush's war.
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:40 AM
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| 14. I saw that too.........Woodruff with Gillespie |
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And quite frankly, it looked to me that Terry got the best of it. Sure Eddie-baby went on about flip flops and I haven't figured out crap, but it looked tired, old and made Gillespie look like a fish gasping for air.
I think the Kool-Aid is wearing a little thin with folks right about now, and Iraq headed down the tubes will be the antidote.
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:23 AM
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| 5. Matthews has been back and forth |
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Attack dog one day, butt-licker the next. I'm waiting to see where he comes down in the final week.
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:30 AM
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...whichever way the wind blows.
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:37 AM
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| 11. With Matthews...Don't Bismirch JFK! |
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He pounds Repubs that try to hijack JFK quotes (a la tax cut crap) and seems pretty rough on Swift Boat Pond Scum for Bush. I think he has a soft spot for PT Boat commanders with initials JFK!
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:30 AM
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| 6. He's the biggest flipping-flopping newsperson in the business |
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I cannot keep up with his whims. One day Kerry will lose big the next Bush is done, tomorrow Kerry won't stand a chance.
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:32 AM
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Seriously, it just gives people gas.
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:34 AM
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Chris Matthews is a news guy with a show called Hardball. On Bill Maher he convincingly stated his political preferences but he has a show to run. If he leaned too far one way or the other he wouldn't get people to express their opinions on his show. That's his job!
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:40 AM
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| 13. And what did he say his poliical preferences are? |
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For those of us who didn't catch Bill Maher's show.
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:43 AM
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and somewhat pro-Kerry, can't remember what he said, but it was discussed here at the time, made a BIG impression.
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:39 AM
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He also said this is THE thing that will kill Bush in the election, if Kerry has 'got the right stuff' to take advantage of it.
Didn't he say the election was over last week? Several people posted that he did, I recall. Am I confusing him with someone else?
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:43 AM
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| 16. For once, Tweety is right. Kerry meme: Bush is in denial, out of touch.. |
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Fri Sep-17-04 08:54 AM
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| 17. Iraq getting better, tell that to dead soldier's Mothers... |
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But bush will not face those grieving Mothers. Bush has not attended one single funeral to honor those dead soldiers or to comfort those Mothers in person. That is shameful and heartless.
I use the Mothers because We the Mothers, suffer openly while most Fathers suffer in silent.
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Fri Sep-17-04 09:03 AM
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| 18. I believe he also mentioned Lyndon Johnson |
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and said that we now know, through declassified documents, that LBJ was saying everything was fine in public while saying things were a mess in private.
Richard Holbrooke was a very strong guest on the show,and even the Republican had to admit things were a mess.
Let's hammer this point home.
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Fri Sep-17-04 09:07 AM
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| 19. I think Matthews has a son of draft age...he mentioned once, that the... |
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Young Matthews was supporting and maybe even working for Howard Dean, early on in this campaign season.
That has a way of focusing some peoples minds in a wonderful way.
I think we can count on old Hardball to help us when he can, but an illusion of evenhandedness must be maintained. Otherwise, the waverers and undecideds will decide he is as tainted in his way as FOX is in theirs.
Chris Matthews has long been beating the drum for us when we, or events of the day, give him a drum to beat.
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Fri Sep-17-04 09:57 AM
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| 20. he is a bigger flip flopper than them all |
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just last week, kerry was done and might as well quit
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Fri Sep-17-04 10:06 AM
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| 21. The chameleon will show a different color tomorrow. |
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Everybody stay tuned to see if this time it is YOUR favorite color!
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Fri Sep-17-04 10:08 AM
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| 22. The "good" Tweety emerged then? Watch for the evil twin! |
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I'll say one thing in his favor: on the war he's been consistent - one of the few whores.
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Fri Sep-17-04 10:15 AM
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| 23. Wind must be blowing from the left today |
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Fri Sep-17-04 10:15 AM
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| 24. Tweet will move back to the right |
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after Karl Rove calls him up today and issues him his daily marching orders.
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