Republicans who will secretly pull the lever for Kerry?

[blm]

I'll list ones I am POSITIVE hate Bush and believe he's a fuckup who's dividing the country and taking it down the road to imperialism. No matter what they may say publicly.

John McCain
Dick Lugar
Christopher Shays
Lincoln Chaffee
Chuck Hagel
Arlen Spector
Olympia Snowe

[dennis4868]

1. PAT BUCHANAN

[Bush was AWOL]

2. Buchanon has said there is no way he'd vote for Kerry

Basically, he feels that social issues make it impossible for him to ever vote for a democrat.

[dennis4868]

5. thats what he says publicly.....

but he is pissed at the PNACers in the administration and wants them gone from public life forever.....

[blm]

9. Actually, I believe Buchanan WILL vote for Kerry.

I don't care what he says on television. I think he sees the choice between democracy and imperialism. I also believe he HATES the Bushes and their agenda for a monarchy.

[michigandem2]

11. he can't say it on tv...LOL

do you know what a stink that woudl create but its possible that he will..what about scumborough...I think he will vote for Kerry...

[Leilani]

20. No, he will not vote for Kerry

He will vote Constitution Party...I believe that is Badnarick. (sp?)

[blondeatlast]

24. He has hinted he will vote for the Constitutional Party cnadidate.

Still, that's one less vote for Bunny!

[physaf]

34. no doubt... buchanan hates the Bushes...

I would not be surprised if he pulled against him.

[redstateblues]

39. He Is All For Bush Packing The SCOTUS With Xtra Chromosome

Right Wingers. He'll vote for Bush

[JohnKleeb]

7. Nah I see him supporting Michael Peroutka

[merbex]

3. I'll be happy if they leave the choice blank

[MidwestMomma]

4. Susan Collins

And Steve...a guy I work with.

[Davis_X_Machina]

15. Collins, never, no way.

She, unlike Snowe, is a modern movement Republican, who never made her bones in the old Margaret Chase Smith-era party.

Her reputation for 'moderation' is a smokescreen.

[blm]

18. I agree. I don't see Collins as anyone loyal to ANY good cause.

I see her as an opportunist.

[physaf]

36. Collins is very hard to read

seems every time I see her mentioned she's up to no good.

[meow2u3]

33. Collins' idea of a "moderate" Repuke

A fascist who supports abortion rights

[redstateblues]

41. Well Put- If It Weren't True It Would Be Funny

[Protected]

23. I doubt Collins

I saw her blasting Kerry with typical Rupublican garbage during an interview conducted at the RNC.

[napi21]

6. Maybe. But we'll never know.

Certainly none will ever admit it, and I don't blame them. At least they outnumber Zell!

[dennis4868]

8. Joe Lieberman.....

oh thats right he is a dem :eyes:

[faithnotgreed]

17. yeah well... "some people say"!

[RevCheesehead]

10. Colin Powell

I swear he's on the edge of resigning.

[michigandem2]

12. he does look so introverted...

what happened to him..I liked him...till he went with *....I remember when there was talk Clinton wanted him but he wouldnt' cross over...but he crossed over this time..the the DARK side

[TexasUnderground]

22. Yeah, like we would be so much better off if he hadn't

Can you imagine this administration with NO moderating influences?

Be glad Powell is in the administration. He's probably the only one keeping them from nuking half the middle east and China.

[blondeatlast]

26. Do you really think he has that much influence? I don't, but...

Welcome to DU.

:toast:

[TexasUnderground]

28. Thanks

No, I don't think he has much influence, but he might be the only thing that kept us from the precipice. Assuming we haven't already gone over.

[physaf]

35. If Powell had not been in the Cabinet there would be a load

of difference in what damage has been done.

[cheshire]

14. Well he must be worried about something because he hasn't yet.

[blm]

16. You're right. I meant to include him.

He's a big jerk for ever laying down with the Bushes and covering their asses for over thirty years. But, I do believe in private he'll vote for Kerry.

[blondeatlast]

25. Agreed; he's nearly had it; you can see it in his body language. nt

[physaf]

37. yeah!

it sure would be different with out him. darn... that calls for another drink...

[RevCheesehead]

13. Tommy Thompson (Health & Human Services)

Tommy just had one of his nominees blocked by *, simply because he (the nominee) had contributed to the Gore campaign in 2000.

on edit:
Tommy has been remarkably silent during this campaign. He could be utilized in *'s campaign in WI, but nada. Maybe he's seen the light.

[JohnKleeb]

19. interesting, thanks I didnt know that

[blondeatlast]

27. Good one--you're right. nt

[Czolgosz]

29. Under Thompson, Health & Human Services has gutted

the anti-patient dumping laws for uninsured woman who seek emergency room services when they go into labor. It's a crime, but it's a complicated legal issue that has gone almost completely without any publicity.

[LittleClarkie]

42. Tell me about it.

Good old "Tax and Spend" Tommy. In some ways, in that regard, a bit of a RINO.

But he is popular here, you're right. I hadn't thought about why he hasn't been campaigning.

Perhaps there IS a decent bone in there...somewhere.

[partygirl]

21. my parents know a VERY

prominent Republican (really really famous) who did a protest vote for Perot in 1992 rather than vote for Bush 1!

I am sworn to secracy and can't tell who and anyone even if I did, no one would ever believei me but it does happen.

On the negative side--there are some that lots of Democrats think are on "our" side who are not at all--I have a really horrible story there but I will keep quiet and not depress everyone.

[physaf]

38. please don't tell us about zell again.

it's taken me a month to start to forget it.

[Thrill]

30. I think Chafee

is voting for Kerry. This guy is not a republican. What exactly makes him a republican?

[Zero Division]

49. I've seen his voting record, it's more liberal than some Dems

I can't imagine Chafee voting for Bush.

[SheilaT]

31. Don't delude yourself.

None of those, nor any other prominent Republican, is going to vote for Kerry. The best you can possibly hope for is that they won't vote for Bush, but I seriously doubt they'd even do that.

These people are true believers. McCain campaigns for and alongside Bush. If any of them really opposed Bush they'd have left the Republican party by now, but it's not going to happen.

Just care that enough voters do vote for Kerry, that the votes are actually counted honestly, that the Bush cabal does not figure out some way to steal the election after November 2nd, and that on January 20, 2004, we actually watch the inauguration of John Kerry.

[Zero Gravitas]

43. True enough

Forget the well known names, but I am still clinging to the belief that many moderate thoughtful Republican voters are appalled at what Bush is doing. Although the plural of anecdote is not "data" there are just too many stories and personal experiences for me to ignore. Some will hold their noses and vote for Kerry, some will not vote and some will vote 3rd part (e.g. Libertarian)

I understand and believe in the mathematics and methodology of polling, but most professional pollers will admit that is very difficult to get a truly random sample, and given how polarizing a figure Bush is the normal dynamic of "likely voters" may well not apply this time round.

On NPR this afternoon there was an interesting opinion from a professional pollster who was amazed at the atypical increasing volatility among swing voters. I attribute this to both the tactical (although slimey) genius of Rove combined with the ineptness of the Kerry campaign in the face of Bush's terrible record. The facts are in our favor, but the campaign is doing a shitty job of exploiting the advantage.

All Kerry needs to do is convince people that he has a reasonable alternative to the insanity of the Bush Administration and he can still win in landslide. So far he has not done a good job, but it is not too late.

[LittleClarkie]

46. No need to cling

They exist. Go to www.republicansforkerry04.org and see.

There are Barry Goldwater conservatives (one I go to church with) who are disgusted with what their party has become.

There are Moderate Republicans who are fiscally conservative by socially liberal. And I like to remind other Republicans that Bush is NOT a fiscal conservative and does NOT represent small government. So many think he does just by virtue of being a Republican. They're not paying attention.

[SheilaT]

48. Here's another utterly unscientific poll.

I live in Kansas, near Kansas City, Missouri, and yesterday while driving from my house to a place in KC and back again by a different route, I took notice of the vast number of John Kerry signs (at least 30) compared to the small number of Bush ones (4). This was on both sides of the state line that the ratio held up. On the Missouri signs I saw a reasonable number of signs for Democrats running for various offices, and lesser numbers for Republicans running for those offices.

There were more signs for each of the Republicans running for Congress, Senate, and Governor than Bush signs. On the Kansas signs I saw many more signs for Kris Kobach, an extreme right winger (they call them conservatives here) running for Congress against incumbent moderate Democrat Dennis Moore by far than I saw Bush signs.

So local Republicans have much more strength than the sitting president (and I want to put that word in quotes). I don't think that's the usual. In fact, far from the president having coattails, he needs to hope that the local Republicans have coattails he can ride on.

[Merlin]

32. I think you're right. Especially women.

Let's face it, Stupid White Guys in this country are a lost cause ('cept for me and my friends). But how many Republican wives are there out there who keep their mouths shut but detest this freaking cowboy! I think many will get great pleasure pulling that Kerry lever in the privacy of the booth.

[physaf]

40. you're right. the women definitely do pull the lever in

unpredictable ways. maybe they will send Bush down the drain.

[RevCheesehead]

44. where's Norman Schwartzkopf?

He's disappeared...ain't that odd? (of course, he fought "my daddy's war" - a persona non grata).


And don't you really think AH-nold will? The sooner we get rid of *, the sooner his buddies can ram through the amendment to have our "first president on steroids"

[DrRock]

45. ^

I saw a "Democrats for Bush" sticker and I had to laugh. I like what Janeane Garofalo said when she said, "I think that at this point, a vote for Bush is nothing more than a character flaw."

[freeplessinseattle]

47. plus the regular folks

I was actually just talking to a friend today about this very idea, that Reps image and acceptance by their peers, especially family, is so important that there may very well be many who say aloud that they support Bush, but think something else inside. polling could miss this if a family member or friend is around when the phone or doorbell rings. plus the HS and college students who don't express their political beliefs around family to avoid friction.

[Norbert]

50. Ron Paul

He has been vocal in the past about his opposition to the war.