ROVE claims Kerry is leaking story of Bush financing of Hitler

[seventhson]

According to websites which cannot be named on this board, right wingers and Rovian Freeper types like the Swift Boat liars are claiming that the Kerry campaign has finally, in a desperate move designed to sway the election, leaked classified information to the Guardian Newspaper detailing and confirming the Bush financing of the Holocaust and the "architecture" of the Nazi Party and Hitler's rise to power.

The article is found here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html

While there is no little "th" in the documents sourced and there is not yet a claim that the Bush financing and support of Hitler's global racist ideal is false or fabricated or fraudulant (though the Bushes have failed to deny the underlying facts) - Freeper and Rove operatives are spreading the "meme" that the Kerry campaign "leaked" this to the Guardian illegally and fraudulently in order to convince the electorate that the Bushes were actually allies with Hitler in the Second World War and financed the Nazi war machine.

We researchers here at DU know the real deal and KNOW that Kerry has not TOUCHED this story.

Articles on the Kerry-Edwards website about the Bush-Nazi ties are reguarly deleted.

NOW, however, instead of refuting the facts or apologizing for backing Hitler's vision of global Aryan=German-American hegemony -- the Bush machine is claiming that the "leak" of these facts is cynical politics of the worst sort and that , even if Prescott Bush DID derive his political fortune from investments in Auschwitz, Dachau, and other death camps and from financing the nazi war machine, it is STILL ancient history and doesn't matter to most Americans.

"Who remembers the Armenian genocide, Hmph!!!!?" it is rumored that Rove grumbled to Bush as he tried to explain away the problems this story may cause and spin this back at the Kerry camp.

The Kerry camp has yet to deny that it leaked this story in order to paint the Bushes as fascists who profiteered in WWII from the death camps and who backed Hitler against America.

[LisaLynne]

1. Ha ha, Karl.

He just thinks that because it's something he would do. Of course, he would have made up the story out of whole cloth. This is just the facts of history coming to life.

[flordehinojos]

41. They can't refute the facts that have been out there for a long, long time

So .... now they are going to obfuscate by making the deep emotional charge that john kerry is behind the leak that identifies ole prescott as one of hitler's angels.

. . . i am sure that many will get pulled into the emotional charge and focus on the part that rove wants them to focus on:that kerry is somehow an evil plotter for leaking to the guardian a fact that identifies evil doing on the part of a bush family member several generations ago.

Rove wants to keep people from seeing how, indeed, these bushes are evil, and how deep into the family dynamic of profiting from war and being a war profiteer this current bush is.

[DesEtoiles]

2. I'm certain Rove is a bed-wetter

[Eye and Monkey]

52. Depends.

[skooooo]

69. LMAO!

[skooooo]

3. Well, the story mentions the exact archive collections..

...I guess someone can go in and check. How ridiculous.

[Catherine Vincent]

4. Truth be Demand!

[JohnKleeb]

and Karl Rove also had family with nazi connections

I think this is probably one of the sickest things about the Bush family, their funding of the Nazis. I really don't know what the public would think if they knew this, really after all the shit Bush has done, and they still support him and it's still gonna be close.

[Pallas180]

45. OK-link? to K K Karl Rove nazi family? not that I haven't suspected that

from the git go...

[Pirate Smile]

5. Don't ever focus on the message, attack the messenger or how

they got it. Diversion tactic. They do it on absolutely everything.

Is there any way this will break through into the US media? Will anyone care if they don't care what Bush himself did 35 years ago?

[skooooo]

8. Surely people are starting to catch on to this trick??

..except the die hard Bush-worshipers??

:shrug:

[whistle]

6. Say what KKKarl Rove believes that Kerry was responsible....

...for something that has been known on blog sites for years and now some smart lawyer has come up with a plan that will nail the Bush family's collective ass to wall regarding treason committed by the grand-pappy 60 years ago and Rove wants to make that Kerry's doing? What a mealy mouthed pimp Rove is.:wtf:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

7. Link to Rove assertion?

:shrug:

[seventhson]

19. The site cannot be linked

according to the rules.

But you KNOW where to look for it.

[Pirate Smile]

30. Where? I thought maybe you meant sludge but I didn't see it there

so I guess I need another hint.

Is this supposed to be a riddle?

[Virginian]

9. Rove is getting predictible.

Always accuse your opponent of what you are doing before you get caught doing it.

[napi21]

10. This has been in quite a few books long before Kerry ever decided to run.

I do agree with a lot of Kerry critics though. He needs to get out there right away and cite the books it's been in, and that he didn't need to put this dactual info out...it's been out there for a long time!

[Bandit]

77. Yes yes Kerry needs to mention at every oportunity

The Kerry Campaign had nothing to do with releasing the information about the Bush history of financing the Nazis. We have seen this information for many years now but we had nothing to do with telling Americans and the world about the Bush history of aiding the Nazis. Mention it at every speech.

[seventhson]

81. I think that they need to say: This information is chilling and if we had

known sooner we sure as hell would have warned America!

[Jade Fox]

11. Go ahead Karl, call attention to this story.....

I think by now everyone expects you to blame everything on the Kerry
campaign. All you're doing is calling attention to the info.

[RevCheesehead]

20. Yeah - Kerry sent Hurricane Ivan back to attack Texas.

Kerry sent all those Hurricanes to FL to embarass Jeb.
Kerry is starting the impeachment process against Tony Blaire.
Kerry is rigging the polls.
There were no medals.
There was no hamster.
There was no Vietnam - just a left-wing propaganda photo-op to let Dan Rather gain prominence as a "journalist."

:eyes:

[TexasBushwhacker]

12. This is old news anyway

There may be some new documentation, but Prescott's involvement with Nazi owned companies has been talked about for a long time. I don't really see that it makes much difference anyway. Dubya is an asshole all on his own and he can't do anything about his grandfather's business dealings.

[skooooo]

13. It's old news, but is now legitimized by the Guardian article...

They can't just say it's some made-up story on the Internet.

[TexasBushwhacker]

72. True, and it's great that it's a UK paper

They can't make the charge of "liberal bias" so easily.

[Zero Division]

33. Which is why I would say the charges against the Kerry campaign.....

are easily refutable. I am starting to worry a bit about the ignorant voters who will believe any and all charges of "dirty politicking" against the Kerry campaign, though.

[kwolf68]

14. Link schmink

If Bush's family has Nazi roots we deserve to know.

[skooooo]

17. No..link to Karl Rove's assertions is what was requested.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

18. Yep.

Bushes abetting Hitler war machine are fact.

Rove saying Kerry is pushing the story are not.

[kwolf68]

26. Keep in mind

If Kerry's 2nd Uncle born out of wedlock in Norway had donated 3 bucks to the Socialist Party, we'd hear about it and Kerry would be labeled a Communist.

[dweller]

35. link?

PUorSU.

dp

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[Pallas180]

60. Hey, DU'ers - are we having an open house party here tonite?

seems like there's lots of visitors --

strange people who support girlieman butsch.

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[Duncan Grant]

65. It's not fascism when we do it.

I ask you, isn't this one much better? It just puts the brown in my brownshirt.

[SammyWinstonJack]

68. Yes trying to convince people of the truth is hard to do

especially when it comes to the BFEE crimes. Why is that?

[Duncan Grant]

66. I love that one!

I think that was done well before the war started. It's f*cking brilliant. :hi:

[JohnKleeb]

15. anyone also know that Mr. Rove had a relative

who was a nazi party gauliter.

[Eye and Monkey]

21. "the grandson of Karl Heinz Roverer", built one of the concentration camps

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=22154

Karl Rove is, in fact, the grandson of Karl Heinz Roverer, the gauleiter of Mecklenburg, who was also a partner and senior engineer of Roverer Sud-Deutche Ingenieurbüro AG. They built Birchenau, the concentration camp in Nazi Germany.

[JohnKleeb]

24. eek

[Eye and Monkey]

34. Eek is right. Take a look at the size of the camp, from a recon photo

AND Birkenau was really a part of the Auschwitz-Birkenau Complex



more info at: http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/imint/holocaust.htm

[Pallas180]

46. Jesus Christ. Those nazis stick together.

feh

[Eye and Monkey]

51. Wait - was Jesus a Nazi, too? Hang on, I'll look for a link.

[Pallas180]

54. Well, he was a Jew and look what happened to him -

[jerryster]

85. Be sure

Let's be careful. Are we ABSOLUTELY sure that Rove is this guy's grandson. I can't begin to tell you how horrendous this would be if it's just a load of bullshit.

[KoKo]

16. Kevin Phillips book which was just out documents it all. Anyone who

watches C-Span's Booknotes and saw him pushing his book knows what was in it. He said the Bush's should be investigated more and he hoped an enterprising reporter would use his book as a start because it goes deeper than funding Nazi's...Clark Clifford...other stuff. But, he said many of the participants are dead now so getting to the bottom of the worst will be hard.

Plus this info was published before in the British newspapers about the time Philip's book came out. I could swear it was the Guardian..

I don't see the big deal on this unless Kerry used it in his campaign. It's probably in other books and is verifiable. We had many threads with links here on DU about it from other sources. They are probably in the archives now. Kind of dumb for Rove to open up that can of worms by accusing Kerry. They've kept the press off it for so long...here in the states and didn't even pick it up on the cables when Philips book came out unless Mathews blurted it out one night. :shrug:

[DemFromMem]

22. So does Kitty's book

Not exactly breaking news....

But as I've said in another thread, I don't think this is fighting fair. Prescott Bush is not running for President and we all have family tree "issues." GWB has plenty to answer for without having to defend actions allegedly taken by his grandfather before he was even born. I don't think we do ourselves any credit by discussing this. Every moderate Democrat in the South probably has a relative who though segregation was a good thing. Is that fair to bring up?

Kelley's book also says that the story is largely overblown and Prescott Bush is getting unduly skewered on this issue (she notes that this story has been floating on the web for several years).

Kelley's tone in the book is that the country would probably be a lot better off if GWB was more like his grandfather than his dad. PB was a moderate Republican who had a solid record on civil rights and was a vocal opponent of McCarthy (he took a lot of heat on that).

[Pallas180]

56. Listen Karl. That's absolute bushit. I dont have any nazis in my family ba

background, I dont know about you.

And I actually have an uncle who sat in the back of the bus in the
South where he took training during WW2...refused to sit up front with the white people, long before Rosa Parks became famous for the same thing. (of course he was arrested even though he was in the Air
Force).

So I dont have any segregationists in my family either.

Nope. DemFromMem - not everyone has skeletons in their closet

And I highly doubt that Kelley's book, as you relate, intimated that
GWB would be better off if GWB were more like his grandfather.

He is more like his grandfather. A FASCIST, but without brains.

[merh]

79. The nazi link is an issue in this election because the

political philosophy of this admin is facism. They are following Hitler's playbook as they ruin my government and nation. History is repeating itself at the hands of the * admin.

[Bridget Burke]

90. "We" didn't bring this up.

We've known the story of Prescott's Nazi links for a long time. Karl Rove is the one claiming the Democrats are using the old story in the campaign.

And now you are?

[LiberalFighter]

28. Also John Loftus, former Justice Department prosecutor

BUSH-NAZI LINK CONFIRMED

“Bush - Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951” - Federal Documents

[buycitgo]

37. problem is, Phillips very strongly POOPOOHs any real

involvement

anybody else see him do that on CSPAN?

it's been discussed here

he doesn't buy the Harriman thing

can't remember his reasoning, but he was adamant about it

wish he hadn't been

there are other, more tenuous ties, like the ones which claim they were involved with death camps/Zyklon B, or something, but there was very little, if anything to corrorate such claims

most of that came from ONE site, and was not corroborated elsewhere

amazing what the media ignored last time, though

there was more than enough to keep him from getting the nomination, let alone the "election"

[Pallas180]

58. KOKO- Phillips book had two pages on Nazi Prescott - a puff piece

and said to be republican authorized.

[Pallas180]

59. "The Big Deal" is that for the 1st time, Bush family is being sued by surv

survivors of the Holocaust for the slave labor at Silesian Steel while
they were interned at Auschwitz

Silesian Steel managed by Prescott Bush.

[Kierkegaard]

23. Classic projection.

Information that's damaging to the GOP is automatically turned around and aimed at some unscrupulous attempt by the Democrats to tell the truth.

How does something get classified as 'ancient history?' Would it apply to the background of a heroic soldier who fought in a war over 35 years ago? Or only to those events not deemed beneficial to the party who owns the media?

[rocktivity]

25. If Rove says it, he DEFINITELY did it.

On the other hand, it's not exactly front page news.

Bush Is Not A Nazi, So Stop Saying That!

:headbang:
rocknation

[seventhson]

27. Yeah. It is a tactic called Inoculation

Leak the story and then blame it on Kerry and Edwards (who seem to be afraid to mention this history of the Bush family)

How can we ever teach history and influnce voters if we do not tell the TRUTH.

The fact is the Bushes were the sponsors of global racist hegemony and financed Hitler's monstrosity

[NEDem]

42. I've never seen that animation before.

Quite disturbing.

[Ladyhawk]

55. It's one of my favorites at TBTM. n/t

[DBoon]

29. Why after 60+ years should this stuff be classified?

even assuming it really is and the accusation isn't just blowing smoke.

Anything about Hitler's rise to power ought to be in the pubilc domain - if it is still secret we damn better find out why

[kwolf68]

32. Hitler's rise to power is pretty much known

-He used the workings of the National Socialist Party to rise
-He played on racial fears
-He disenfranchised and then soon jailed dissenters...beginning with gypsies, Jews and Commies.
-He then stuck Socialists into the pokey
-He talked about "German blood" a lot. A pure culture
-He blamed Jews for every problem. They were the enemy
-He deified the military. Military was to be worshipped
-He was a speaker who could appeal to the dumbest of the masses
-He had a Master propagandist working for him

What the hell?

[Pallas180]

47. Cause it's proof of Prescott Bush making fortune by betting against Americ

FDR would have prosecuted but he didn't live long enough...So Prescott
went on to become a Senator in Congress - the infestation of the
American government with the pro-fascists...and with the help of
the Dulles brothers....and many many of the old wealth families including Rockefellers. After all, they were the major corporations and bankers...and corporatism/fascism is good for them.

[Pallas180]

61. Coming out now because of lawsuit -see my post #59

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

31. Rove is being amazingly stupid

I mean a scoop of stupid with cherries on top stupid.

Does he actually think if MOST people don't care about what the CANDIDATES did 35 years ago, people are going to care about THIS??? (By "people" I mean regular everyday non political junkies like myself.)

Geez. He could have just kept his mouth shut and that Nazi connection story would have DIED a quick death. Heck, it wasn't even in the US media, was it?

Or were they afraid it would turn big and he thought he'd head it off at the pass?

Hey Rove: news flash: your guy doesn't have many votes from Jews anyway, dude.

I don't think Kerry should address this at all. Let his surrogates do it and point out this is HISTORY and the stuff was easily available in ARCHIVES. Sheesh. Let Kerry keep talking about the issues.

[henslee]

36. How do you leak what is already known?

[0rganism]

38. CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS? Like the Fucking CONGRESSIONAL RECORD?

The Bullshit is piled so high we need hipboots just to freakin' wade through it. If anyone wants to look up the congressional hearings concerning UBC asset forfeiture by John Walker and Prescott Bush under the "Trading With The Enemy" act in 1942, they're welcome to do so. It's part of the PUBLIC RECORD.

[Name removed]

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[Pallas180]

48. If you call HW Bush ditching his plane while his gunners were in it & send

sending them to their deaths while he bailed; serving honorably, you have an odd sense of what honorable is.

The Bush family has been involved in illegality, cover up and spin way before WW2.

And it has only gotten worse.

They use and kill people by thousands for the gain of the almighty dollar. But the people they use and kill are other people's children.

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[Pallas180]

53. Yeah? Is that right? You have a link to that propaganda? First

I ever heard of that. I'd like the link to a reputable source.

[DoYouEverWonder]

67. Hey guess who supposedly made that story up?

John O'Neill of Swift Boat Vet fame.

Go figure.

What I want to know is how they managed to have a movie camera set up on the deck of a submarine when Bush Sr. was 'saved'.

[seventhson]

78. If you miss the historical coninuity of these cryptoi-fascists

from one generation to the next to the next then you will nNOT be oif any use helping us stop themn NOW or in the future.

Dismissing this story is the same as being complicit in the coverip IMHO.

If someone had killed MY father or grandfather in the Holocaust (and MANY friends of my father who worked with the resistance to Hitler were tortutred and murdered) and their childsren and grandchildren had money and power STOLEN from my family - I would want reparations and an apology.

I certainly do NOT believe that it is okay for the Bushes to have covered up and profitted from ctimes agfain st humanity.

The gold ripped from the contorted gasping jaws of someone's grandmother before she was fed to the ovens is bulging the pocketes of the Bushes, Rove and all of their bloodthirsty lot.

[proud patriot]

40. Leaking ?

nothing about this story is a leak .

This info has been out for a long time
the media has choosen not to cover it .

[seventhson]

80. That is exactly right

But Rove is trying to slime Kerry with the story instead of addressing the merits of the story.


Will this story make a splash in the US media???

[Catherine Vincent]

43. Some posters are so obvious.....

[LSK]

49. but its ok to lie about Dems banning the bible

Two-faced SOBS. FUCK ROVE. FUCK THE RNC.

[despairing optimist]

57. Rove: "It depends on what the definition of Heil is . . ."

[AnIndependentTexan]

62. This might not be anything; but can anyone do some research on this

After I heard about this I did a few searches over there on the free republic website. We know the media attention they've been getting and that Bush's campgain has been working off them on attacks. Could this be anything worth checking into.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211036/posts
Note the time and date: 09/09/2004 8:27:59 AM PDT
User name:crushkerry
Now the title of the post:Memo To Karl Rove

What gets me about this post is that it is a Memo to Karl Rove here's where and what concerns me.

Let’s turn John Kerry into a joke

In this highly partisan and energized political environment, being ahead in the polls simply isn’t enough. Of course, the polls will tighten. And the Democrats will lie, cheat and steal on Election Day. We’re probably looking at another 50-50 election. Down to the wire.

BUT … we do believe there is an opening right now, while the president’s poll numbers are high and folks are having serious doubts about John Kerry, to turn the corner on this guy and paint him not as a worthy adversary but rather as a joke. To be charitable, America’s Most Liberal Senator has provided your op-research staff with a target rich environment. You haven’t even touched on the Massachusetts liberal angle. Remember his Big Dig hush money? Might make for a fun ad and a clever way to remind people this clown is from the most repugnant place in America east of the Mississippi. And let’s not forget this guy Kerry claims to have a secret hat in a secret compartment in his briefcase from a secret mission with a secret agent we now know never took place. See what we’re getting at? Before you know it, Mike Dukakis himself will try to hide chuckle behind a cough.

Ignore the Ben Barnes Attacks

The strength of a scandal lies in the newness of the information it provides and the degree to which it fundamentally alters peoples’ perceptions of a candidate, a la John Kerry’s Vietnam record. Most, if not all, Americans recognize George W. Bush as the non-war hero son of a wealthy political family. Having Barnes confirm such a perception on CBS will not hurt the president’s image one iota. Especially considering Barnes’ shocking lack of credibility. We rather like the president’s line about John Kerry having served more admirably than he during Vietnam. It is true, sincere, and humble. That should be enough.


Do not allow the 1,000 US casualties in Iraq steer our president off course

The American people have demonstrated time and again they are more resilient, more confident, and yes, more patriotic than John Kerry. Frankly, his ghoulish gloating in the past few days over hitting the 1,000 dead mark is sick and disturbing. Then again, little more should be expected from a man who accused his fellow Vietnam Vets of war crimes.

Some, many will hate the president for Iraq. Most Americans recognize that the choice, as John McCain so beautifully stated, was between war and a graver threat.


…But do prevent another hurricane in Florida

Okay, even George W. Bush, with all the power of Halliburton and the Saudi Royal family at his fingertips cannot prevent another hurricane. But it is a fact that a third, and possibly even bigger, hurricane is headed toward Florida. The first two Florida hurricanes this year have left hundreds of thousands of families without power, without supplies, and in some cases homeless. Recent news coverage details stories of violent outbreaks at gas lines and supermarkets. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has received much of the blame for over-promising and under-delivering. But folks who are suffering can’t blame FEMA on Election Day. They can blame George W. Bush. And rest assured John Kerry and his Democrat echo chamber will use natural disasters to their electoral advantage. He is that tactless. So please, if you have half the unscrupulous power Al Franken and Michael Moore say you do, ward off that third hurricane.

You’ve got ‘the Vision Thing.’ Now more pandering ...

To our way of thinking, the Bush campaign still has some cracks that need patching. Heretofore, President Bush has dominated the “vision thing,” in large part because Kerry has offered him no competition on this front. But the Kerry folks have run a more cynical, and we might argue, tactically smarter campaign. Inside Kerry’s various “plans” are innumerable handouts to important groups in swing states. If this were a congressional race, Kerry would win handily. Of course, it’s not … but the targeting in this contest has become so finite, only a handful of counties in a handful of states will decide who will be the next President of the United States. And you can bet Kerry’s handouts are targeted specifically to industries in these counties.

You would be wise to steal a page or two from this playbook and offer some programs and payoffs to important industries and groups in, say Washington County, Oregon and Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. Cynical? Yes. Necessary? We’re sad to say, but it is.

Enough with the Flip-Flop nonsense

I know, I know. We have become a broken record on this issue. But our resistance to the puerile Flip-Flop charge had grown only stronger since we reviewed some old Bush-Quayle ’92 spots. It’s clear the message that year was, “a president can’t take both sides of an issue. He needs to stand firm,” blah, blah, blah. Sorry, but this didn’t work in 1992 and it won’t work this year. The Bush campaign spent roughly $100 million burning this message in and the good guys were still behind through July. $100,000 from the Swift Boat Vets and Kerry is screaming for a life raft. The president doesn’t have the credibility to push the Vietnam message (and we wouldn’t recommend he push it anyway) but we require no further evidence than this to show the futility of the Flip-Flop silliness.

Seven points ahead is better than seven points behind. But we are a long, long way from Election Day. Don’t stay the course. Turn up the volume.

[AnIndependentTexan]

64. This solves the CBS Memo case. DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND FOCUS

Find out who crushkerry from free republic. We have a very strong link here people.

[TexasBushwhacker]

74. Here's the founder

Here's original website:

http://www.crushkerry.com/index.php

and if you look on the homepage, on the left side is a box with a book. In it, it says that the founder of CrushKerry.com is Patrick Hynes.

I recommend you check out his site, and particularly the video "Torture". This is one twisted motherfucker.

[Triana]

70. HA! That story has been out for YEARS!!!

I was sending it to people in 2000 and well before that, and it's in at LEAST 2 books about The Little Weaselly Man and his crime family.

Rove is lying and full of bu$hit, as usual.

[underpants]

75. Exactly this is nothing new-it just now is a newspaper

they are crying foul for reporting the truth?

Too bad.

[snippy]

71. Karl Rove was the first person to compare Bush to Hitler.

Of course Rove did it in an admiring and complimentary way.

Drudge excerpting from Woodward's book "Bush At War:

ROVE THOUGHT POST-9/11 WORLD SERIES GAME LIKE NAZI RALLY

"The president emerged wearing a New York Fire Department windbreaker. He raised his arm and gave a thumbs-up to the crowd on the third base side of the field. Probably 15,000 fans threw their arms in the air imitating the motion.

He then threw a strike from the rubber, and the stadium erupted. Watching from owner George Steinbrenner’s box, Karl Rove thought, It’s like being at a Nazi rally." (p. 277)

http://www.drudgereport.com/wood.htm (emphasis added).

[cap]

73. all polish links to auschwitz and bush have pulled from the internet

the newsweek polish edition article is no longer posted. Also, all Polish news articles talking about the Polish demonstrators mentioning Auschwitz have been pulled. These were the demonstrations happening when Bush visited Poland. This is the story to be investigated.

[underpants]

76. Didn't Palast break the voter purge in the guardian?-US press coverage?

Yes to the first question and NO to the second.

I am not saying it won't or shouldn't get coverage in this country but look at how much coverage the voter purge got before (or really since) in the US. Most 'Murkans still don't know about it and the fact that so many Europeans knew about it 6 weeks BEFORE the 2000 elections is the basis of their not seeing Bush as a legitimate President.

[Eurobabe]

82. You mean they stopped blaming the CLENIS??

Dang!

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

83. I remember this from 41

The news was that the President's Dad was a Nazi back then.

Since when is "leaking" synonymous with "reminding"? Not that I think Kerry had a damn thing to do with this.

I'm afraid this and the eugenics thing will score * points with his base.

[TruthIsAll]

84. If Rove is saying that, you know he is doing it.

The slimy bastard.

[arwalden]

86. "Leaking"???? How can one "leak" common knowledge?

[freeplessinseattle]

87. my Oma was a prisoner of war in Danzig

and my Opa fought for Germany in WWII-I don't think he was technically a Nazi, but definitely is anti-semitic (and racist, homophobic, and sexist, maybe why I went so far in the other direction). My grandparents met at a dance for soldiers and, I guess for relocated POW's, isn't that bizarre? anyway, my point is that they have always voted rethug, but recently they have been talking about how upset they are about this war, having experienced a war up close and personal, and each lost a brother. I'm going to print this out and show it to them tomorrow when I go visit, I do think they'll both be shocked and it may tip the balance towards Kerry. my mom is s devout rethug too, wonder what she'll have to say about this...

[seventhson]

88. Please let us all know what they thought

I am always interested to hear what the old folks say.

They have knowledge and perspective we can only imagine.

[goclark]

89. The truth can set you free ROVE

What "leak?" It is a massive flood about the Nazi ties to the Bush name in at least 10 current books.

Kitty Kelly is # 1 on the Best Sellers list, check with Kelly if you wish to know more.

Kitty has some "compelling" information about the dirty slimy dealings of the Bush Family with the Nazis.

[AnIndependentTexan]

91. Read to understand why

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=897089&mesg_id=897089

[genius]

92. Kerry doesn't need to leak it. It's old news and everyone knows about it.

It's like they're saying that Kerry has leaked the news about assassination of McKinley.