So why WON'T Kerry release his military records?

[leftyandproud]

Seriously...It looks bad.

Ask yourself honestly...How would feel if Bush refused to release any his documents?

He authorized more than 1000 pages to be released from the TX guard and the issue died immediately.

Why doesn't Kerry do the same?

[wryter2000]

He has

Why do you believe the Bushies?

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Go to his website

they are there

[qazplm]

12. but he hasnt signed the 180

we all know that, we can all say it doesnt make a difference but i know undecided for which it does.

no maybe its just a formality, maybe he thinks, heck, i've released all my stuff, why sign the form 180?

But the problem is, we keep allowing little side issues to distract from the main ones, or rather, we keep allowing the Right to do that.

and this is just one more little thing for them to deflect from the real issues.

he should just sign the damn form and say see...nothing there.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Only if you allow it to be a distractuon

why don't we insteand talk of the current war?

You know 1049 of our kids are dead

how about we talk of THAT insteand of Nam?

This is a Republican tactic, all the way

By the way, has Bush released all his records?

NOPE

[qazplm]

30. yep, it is a republican tactic

and guess what, it works well enough to make those in the middle think both sides are hiding something.

Not a distraction to me, but then again, I'm already in the fold...need to worry about those in the middle who are not, and who are quite amenable to republican distractions and tactics, i have already heard of one independent comment on it as if to say, see he is no better than Bush.

[merh]

23. I cannot blame him for not signing the 180.

Why should he be required to release his medical records? The only portion of his military records that are not public or his medical records.

If * releases ALL of his medical records, his military records, his arrest records, then Kerry should release his.

[gollygee]

25. I agree 100%

I can't imagine why anyone would release all their medical records. If he's ever had so much as a urinary tract infection he'll be massacred by the freepers.

I wouldn't release them if it were me. I've got stuff I don't want the world to know about my medical history. Nothing earth-shattering, but enough that I'd have trouble getting elected to office.

[Warpy]

24. Neither has Bush

and that's how you answer any Freeper who brings it up.

Any. Freeper.

[qazplm]

27. good lord

its not ABOUT Freepers, its about independents, undecideds...


see this is why we dont win elections, we are so worried about what the right is doing and not about what we are doing.

yes, its not right he should have to release his records, yes its not right that bush hasnt released all of his...yes yes yes, you are all quite right.

guess what, doesnt matter, because we only have a few weeks left, and ANY distraction from the main issues hurts not Bush but Kerry, and little things like this are distractions.

about time we learned that lesson, dontcha think? Instead of worrying what should be, time to start thinking about nothing else other than winning and that means doing things like signing 180s so that it removes it from being a potential distraction, and has the added benefit of saying ok put up or shut up, i signed the 180, you found nothing, now what do you have?

Lets us look above the right, not equal to them...rightly or wrongly, and i think wrongly, those in the middle see both sides as equally wrong.

time to stop worrying about the right and start worrying about the middle and winning. quite frankly, i think he should release those records, not because its some necessary thing to do to prove his honor, but because its a move that will help win in the end.

[kaitykaity]

31. Oh, bullshit.

From beginning to end, bullshit. Blather.

Nothing of SUBSTANCE.

Only FREEPERS care about this kind of CRAP because
they have NOTHING ELSE to attack Kerry with.

Voters in the middle DON'T GIVE A SHIT.

[qazplm]

34. nice rebuttal

I'm convinced.

Polled all the people in the middle have you?

I've personally convinced three people to vote for Kerry, what have you done?

I talk to undecideds all the time, they care and give a shit about all sorts of things those of US on the left think meaningless.

But by all means, you go on and think its just freepers...if it WERE just freepers, seeing as how dems still maintain the numerical advantage we would be winning by a lot more and would have won easily in 2000.

Clearly its not just about the freepers.

[kaitykaity]

39. Oh, you work for the Kerry campaign, do you?

You're a professional, can make money doing this stuff?

No. You have an opinion. Your opinion, in my opnion,
is bullshit.

[kaitykaity]

2. He did already.

This is a flame-baiting RW talking point.

:puke:

No fair editing after we've responded.

Bush DIDN'T release all of his records.

Bush got his Texas records shredded courtesy of
Dan Bartlett.

[iwantmycountryback]

3. No, it actually doesn't look bad.

The only people that actually think Kerry's lying about his war record are voting for Bush anyway. Fuck em. And besides why should Kerry do it if Bush won't.

[WilliamPitt]

4. leftyanduninformed

[bowens43]

5. Bush has refused to release all the documents.

[qazplm]

i dont know

it certainly would make sense for him to have done so.

I doubt there is anything hidden there, but not releasing it makes it look as if there is.

[slinkerwink]

6. this question has been asked a million times

[Mika]

13. A million and one, now.

n/t

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[ROC]

36. Doesn't seem to be answered

JK has not signed a 180. He has not released tax records and there is an effort to bring to light the Heinz probate records. If there is nothing there, release them. The middle, indecided does care.

[JI7]

7. Kerry has released his, Bush hasn't released all his records

[girl gone mad]

8. The only records Kerry hasn't released..

are medical records.

Bush hasn't released his medical records, either. Not to mention several documents that should be included in his records can't be located.

[qazplm]

14. so then he hasnt

released all his records.

sure, it makes little difference to us, and we dont care what those on the right think, but those in the middle are too easily susceptible to distraction.

Why not just release them already, all he is doing is allowing more distractions.

It's not like there is anything there, and it would kill one more talking point in its tracks.

[kaitykaity]

18. What's this "us"?

Stop bringing the RW crap over here.

[qazplm]

28. yawn

hey look, its another poster accusing someone of being "RW", you never see that around here lol

try being original, or addressing the points, either would be preferable to the same tired comments I see whenever someone says something people dont agree with over here.

Didnt realize i have to tow party lines around here, kinda thought WE were much more open to differing opinions.

[kaitykaity]

Learn to READ.

Saying what you are regurgitating is RW crap isn't the same
as saying "You're a RWinger."

Course you seem to have skipped both your reading
comprehension and rhetoric and argument classes.

[qazplm]

37. sure its the same thing

you just didnt come out and say it.

Course you skipped was basic manners, but if it makes you feel better to make personal attacks feel free.

when you want to actually DISCUSS things let me know, all I have seen out of you so far is personal attacks and huffing and puffing.

[kaitykaity]

38. Oh, yeah, get prim and proper on me.

You can't handle having your BS called as BS, then stop
spewing it.

[fairfaxvadem]

9. What in the world are you talking about?

What's with this "Kerry won't release records?"

[Julien Sorel]

10. Just how deeply have Republican talking points seeped

into the minds of "Democrats?" Every day here I am reminded several times just how successful the Republicans have been on twisting the debate to their advantage. Part of it is the stupidity and ill will of some people on the left, but you really have to give credit to the Republicans for figuring out how to spoon feed shit to Democrats and have them swallow it with a smile and a meek, "Please sir, may I have some more."

[luaneryder]

29. How true

It's insidious. Every day when I log on I see more and it's getting old.

[leetrisck]

11. The rw has a thing about medical records - Clinton's -

remember? They never wanted to see any republican medical records - just Democrats and especially Clinton's.

[Cocoa]

16. why are you asking GOP talking points?

seriously, it looks bad.

[Redleg]

17. Was that a hit-and-run attack, leftyandproud?

You didn't respond to any of the comments. Kerry did release his records, placing many of them on his website.

[snowbear]

20. uh..

Sounds to me like a small handful of people here (ok, maybe only 2 people here) are actually echoing rightwing media misinformation instead of known facts :crazy: *coughsushi'swifecoughforexamplecough*

Senator Kerry's military records were released a long ass time ago. :wow:

[SidDithers]

19. LMAO...

oh wait, you were serious.

nevermind.

Sid

[tuvor]

21. Bush has NOT signed any SF180

So why do you think Kerry looks bad to the exclusion of bush?

[qazplm]

33. well it doesnt

you are right, but dont you think kerry signing it makes him look better?

Dont you think that would force the media to turn their attention completely to Bush and ask ok Mr. President its your turn?

[gospelized]

22. "He authorized more than 1000 pages to be released from the TX guard and "

have you been drinking freep juice?

bush hasn't "authorized" anything. everything that's being released is as a result of freedom of information lawsuits. and i don't know what issue it is that's "died," but it certainly isn't Bush's guard history.

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[shraby]

32. I'd like to know why we don't

have any of Bush's CURRENT medical records to peruse. We did concerning earlier presidents. We have a right to know what shape our president is in.

[deadparrot]

35. *'s NG record has over 1000 pages? Damn. :) n/t

[Moderator]

40. Locking......

This is flamebait.




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