Malloy: "I despise christians"

[Renew Deal]

"Most christians are liars, .... ...." who support Bush.

WTF is that all about? Fuck Malloy. He's a blowhard that likes to hear the sound of his own voice a little too much. I wouldn't mind if he ended up unemployed again. Idiot

[LoZoccolo]

1. I've been saying he's kooky for a while now.

Basically a left-wing blowhard to complement the right-wing ones.

[Joy Anne]

2. Who's Malloy?

His exposure to Christians is perhaps limited to watching Jerry Falwell on TV.

[Renew Deal]

4. Mike Malloy

now of Air America.

[Union Thug]

3. I love Malloy..and..

that's my experience with Christians, too... OR ANY religious nutcake.

[Renew Deal]

10. Christians are religous nutcakes?

C'mon. Are all liberals hysterical too? Most of the religous people I know are Christian and I can't think of any that are voting for Bush or the republicans.

[Union Thug]

21. In my opinion, yes.

But I will say that it is mostly American christians that make me want to vomit. The Orthodox people I met in Russia are much more human, and much more spiritually consistent.

Either way, it's all fantasy land to me. I just find one group less annoying than the other.

[LittleClarkie]

24. Oh thanks a whole hell of alot

Not all Christians are "religious nutcakes." Am I misreading you, or is that indeed what you meant to imply?

The "Christians for Kerry" who have a prayer group running for him aren't nutcakes. The mostly liberal ELCA Lutherans that I go to church with (and who surprised me in Bush Country by being mostly supportive of me and my button) aren't religious nutcakes.

As a sidenote: I spent alot of years learning that one didn't have to follow the likes of Pat Robertson to be a Christian. I used to think I was somehow less of a Christian because I couldn't be like they were. I will not be lumped in with those people. Most of them make my teeth itch.

So, for me, could you possibly amend your statement to read "Religious Right folk," friend. I'd appreciate it.

[Union Thug]

31. I'd like to honestly amend it,

but I personally have no patience for religion.

[LittleClarkie]

39. Surprised you're supporting Kerry then

or are you overlooking his Catholicism?

[Union Thug]

42. What's my choice?

Beating a corporate fascist is more important than my personal feelings about religion. It's a strategic vote.

[rooboy]

5. He's referring to Christian fundamentalists. n/t

[LoZoccolo]

8. I despise Muslims.

Oh, I was only talking about certain ones.

Gimme a break.

WARNING WARNING! THIS POST CONTAINS SARCASM!

[Renew Deal]

11. That's not what he said.

[seabeyond]

19. then he needs to say fundamentalists

like 79% of the u.s. claim to be christian. only like 30% are fundamentalist.........well baptists, so i would say fundamentalists are even lower.

dont be grouping all christians together. that isnt going to fly

[irancontra]

6. chill...

he hates people who believe in an imaginary man who dictates foreign policy.

[Union Thug]

14. and those that believe in the talking snake theory

of creation, while wanting to ban evolution from the classroom.

Xtian, Jew, Muslim.. it's all the same BS to me. Go get 'em Mike!

[billbuckhead]

That is over the line. but Agnostic-non Christian type peoples

have a lot of frustration nowdays with phony "Christians" and fence sitting Christians. There are over 30 million non believers and we can't openly endorse a candidate because of Christian prejudice. Even the Moslems votes are tainted less than ours.

[newsguyatl]

7. if you're easily offended, mike's not for you.

[Renew Deal]

12. I don't think I'm that easily offended.

But idiot wingnuts on our side deserve as much scrutiny as the idiot wingnuts on their side. BTW, Kerry is a christian, does Mallow despise him?

[wtmusic]

15. agreed

I don't listen to him, but he sounds like a first class tool.

[alcuno]

18. Kerry is a Catholic. Catholics do not refer to themselves as Christians.

Christian is code in this country for evangelical or fundamentalist.

[Renew Deal]

23. Are you just making this shit up?

lol

That's a stretch. Click this. http://www.beliefnet.com/christianity/

Look at the list on the left. What's the first thing listed under Christian?

[newsguyatl]

25. are christians supposed to curse like that?

[Renew Deal]

27. Why don't you fuckin tell me?

[newsguyatl]

33. there's that true christian spirit

i knew it was in ya :-)

now go read your little green bible and turn malloy off. pray and go to bed.

[Name removed]

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[LittleClarkie]

53. Like I've said before

Democrat ugly ain't any prettier than Republican ugly.

Eh, whatever. When I was the "token theist" over at alt.atheism on Usenet, I ran into this attitude alot. Some atheists are tolerant, but many are not. Some are recovering fundamentalists so I understood, but several of them reflected the extremism they claimed to hate in the theists. They were a mirror, a perfect copy in reverse.

I was respectful so I was considered okay as I hung out there. They were mostly Democrat, so I was relatively comfortable. But I could never get them to understand that name-calling and such things maked them look as unreasonable as the theists they hated.

My mother, not an atheist or a fundamentalist, used to call Kohmeni "Ka-ka-meni" and Sadaam "Sadaam Insane." I thought it made her sound unintelligent and immature. I still think that, no matter who does it.

Tweety
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[alcuno]

32. I don't have to look it up. I come from what would be called a staunch

Catholic family. Obviously, Catholicism is a Christian faith, but we do not go around saying, "I am a Christian." As my mom would say, those are the "holy rollers."

[seabeyond]

38. they are christians though. yet i do hear what you are saying

now. you are right. i am so tired of the word, christian family, christian people. you are right with using of the word. i said a month ago to a christian friend i disown that word. i dont want to be the christian i am hearing all over.

yes they do use the word everywhere, opposed to the catholics. never heard it with a catholic friend, only the baptists.

[alcuno]

48. The "Christians" hold Catholics in contempt.

I've been told by these self-proclaimed "Christians" that I'm going to hell based upon their guidelines. There is simply no tolerance in their "Christianity."

[seabeyond]

52. yes the baptists say that catholics are heathens

they are not christian. three kids in my boys school said kerry was not a christian. you are right

what amazed me so 3/4 months ago when the pope basically patted bushie boy an ok. was shocked. started emailing all my catholic friends to remember the baptist say they are unchristian.

but then, the calif catholics, my firends said i was going to hell as i hung out at the house on weekends and they went out drinking and screwin, ...........cause they confessed their sin to a preist and i did not, wink.........

[saracat]

47. Number 18 is correct.

Born Again Christians don't consider Catholics Christian. That is the truth. I was raised Catholic and I used to correct my father when he would occasionally refer to himself as Christian because I didn't want him confused with the wackjobs who call themselves Christians. I told him to call himself "Roman Catholic" to be a the safe side.I don't suppose all Christians are like that, but I do know that the "born agains" who have high jacked Christianity don't recognize Catholics as Christian and don't consider them "saved"! They also have a problem with mainstream Protestantism, i.e.. Lutheran ,Presbyterianism.Anglican, Baptist, Methodist. I guess you have to accept Christ "their" way or you are evil! LOL!

[alcuno]

51. I love that.

"Roman Catholic to be on the safe side."

[seabeyond]

26. they do too refer to themselves as christians

adn the code word christian only is for the fundamentalist cause they have hi jacked the word

[WillyT]

43. And THAT Is The Point !!!

I realize Christians on the left are actually following Christian tenets in many ways, but THEY need to step up to the plate and call the Falwells, Robertsons, Dobsons, et. al. on the fucking carpet!!!

They HAVE hijacked your religion. THEY are the face of Christianity in today's Amerika! And ONLY other Christians, the enlightened (and so far quiet and invisible) ones can do it.

I'm a non-believer, so most Christians aren't gonna listen to me, or Mike for that matter!

You guys need to take your religion back!!!

:wtf:

[JohnKleeb]

54. our religion man is so broad, its near impossible to take back

I don't know what faith bleachers is, I am a Catholic, not Roman Catholic really beacuse I have a lot of "Greek Catholic" influences.

[seabeyond]

58. i say the same, they have hijacked their religion, lol lol

i am just a christian. i dont do religion. man made. man law, man interpretation, man rule. i dont need some man to tell me how to behave. we all have christ conscience, it is within us. we can hear for ourselves, we dont need man to interpret.

so no i cant take my religion back, i dont have one. i oppose them and group. but i would like to see those that are not so judgemental and more into christ ways to take that back.

[JohnKleeb]

64. its really hard to do because

We're all of such different faiths, the right wingers have a better hold of southern fundie churches better, now with Catholics and Uniterian Universalists, those are dems, yes Catholics vote dem and were once an even stronger constiuency for the party than non people of faith.

[WillyT]

68. Ok... You Can't, So Who Out There Can ???

I mean the religious right has used shame and intimidation to rise to power and become the public face of Christianity. Who on the liberal side, the Christ-Like side, of Christianity can lead the way?

Is there a new Martin Luther King? Who has the agreed upon moral authority for such a task?

I really would like to know. Because it is the Christian Right, that is taking this country down. Without them, the rePublican Party would be finished.

:shrug:

[seabeyond]

70. i said a couple years ago, came to the religious standing up

adn they havent done it. i would think they would be offended. i dont know why they dont speak out. if i had a church i would be a preachin

[Red State Rebel]

46. Christian is any faith that believes in Jesus Christ as the son of God

born of the virgin Mary, crucified, buried and risen to the right hand of the father.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

72. It is NOT code for "fundamentalist"

I call myself a Christian and I am about as far from being an evangelist or fundamentalist as you can GET.

True Christians are no one to despise. Real Christians believe in non-violence, are TRULY compassionate and think of others.

[Mr_Spock]

9. Well, we all have days when we feel that way - the organization

is what is all F'ed up and they are not changing for the better. And he is right - there are a lot of hypocrites out there who support Dumbya - the lying mass murdering war criminal.

[kikiek]

13. I think he is fed up with the attempted hijacking of the country by the

extreme fundamentalist Christians. Many of whom are basing their votes on single issues this year ignoring the hypocrite Bush is. Besides that the fundamentalist agenda is very frightening. Many in this administration are in that group. There are too many trying to shove Christianity on everyone in this country. Freedom of or from religion shouldn't be messed with.

[LoZoccolo]

17. Aw gee, and the eliminationist FReepers are just still in shock from 9/11.

Still. And you should be smarter than that when you're on the radio. People like him create the religious right.

[kikiek]

34. When they say things like Anne Coulter does about invading their

countries, killing their leaders, and forcing them to become Christian people hardly blink. That makes the war on terror a religous war. Just as Bush saying it was a crusade. The comments by the Christians have caused a lack of credibility for our whole country and its motives. He doesn't create them. They exist.

[LoZoccolo]

56. Right, that's why we should do it too.

No we shouldn't. Find some other way of getting what you want, other than the tacit admission that you're impotent and disempowered by adopting the other side's tactics.

[kikiek]

62. I don't think that it is what you're making it out to be.

[NightTrain]

16. Aww, did the big bad Atheist hurt your poor widdle feewings?

Tough fuckin' shit!

[LoZoccolo]

20. Thought-provoking.

Not.

Bye.

[Renew Deal]

22. That's mature.

You are about as brilliant as he. That's not a complement.

[seabeyond]

35. didnt hurt my feelings, but he will be rejected

and certainly isnt going to help the lefts sides, especially seeing how the right is taking all christianity as there own. now you may like to have a religious free u.s. and want the democrats to disown religion, but then i assure you, you wont have another dem elected in your time. if this is your goal, then go for it, piss all over our parade to get bush out

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[kayell]

28. The majority of people who loudly proclaim themselves christians are liars

People who actually follow the teaching of the person called Jesus are becoming an increasingly small subset of the group of people who call themselves "christian".

[not systems]

29. "If Jesus was here today they would pepper spray him...

right in the eyes."

He is right.

Most Christians do not follow what they claim.

Like the "Prosperity Christians" that he mentions.

He does give Jimmy Carter and others like him who
help the poor and the weak props.

[cheshire]

30. What he hates is hollier than thou christians like the moral right. Calm

down

[Big Al from WI]

37. He was talking about Christian fundamentalists

If he didn't make that clear tonight, he has in the past. He said that he wished Jesus could come down and take care of the fundamentalists who disgrace Christianity. Mike Malloy is sort of the Ann Coulter of our side, except that he doesn't lie. Most of the stuff he says can be fact-checked with Google, or sometimes he even tells you where it comes from. He reads DU and talks about it on the show too. I don't know if he posts on here, but maybe he will clarify what he meant. He's not for everyone, however listening to his show can be cathartic.

[kestrel91316]

41. Seems as if there are "christians" and then there are...................

"CHRISTIANS". "Christians" are those who follow the teachings of Jesus, or at least try hard to. "CHRISTIANS" are the sort who vocally proclaim that they alone have been SAVED and that everyone else on the planet is doomed to burn in a lake of fire for all eternity; they got this special status by saying the secret code words "I accept Jesus Christ as my personal savior". These two groups have nothing in common that I can see.

[in_cog_ni_to]

44. Didn't he qualify his statement by naming

a Minister, Priest, preacher...missed the name, but didn't he say, there are SOME who do good, like the guy he named....and then went on to say how he despised Christians and how they are liars?

I'm a Christian and I wasn't offended because he was referring to the Jerry Falwell-Pat Robertsons of the world, the fundies. JMCPO

He's freaked out about the fundies taking over our country. I have to agree with him. It's a damn NIGHTMARE!

[LoZoccolo]

45. You know what's the most fucking stupid thing about all this shit?

No matter how many times it's happened in the past, no matter how often it's happened, no matter how many people are involved in these threads over and over again, it just never fails to get us eating our own. There's no reason for it. There aren't any members of the religious right on this board, people! We're all on the same side politically! That's not good enough for some people I guess. I don't know why that is. Go take your frustrations out somewhere else, people. We're trying to get some stuff done here.

[AuntPatsy]

63. I second that...

[JohnKleeb]

49. agh

Thats no good.

[rumguy]

50. It's a stupid bigoted thing to say

If he mean right-wing Christians then he should have said so - this kind of shit pisses me off. Who the fuck does he think he is anyway?

[unslinkychild1]

55. a-fucking-MEN!!!!

I agree ENTIRELY with MM. 'Bout time SOMEBODY said it!!!!

[kaitykaity]

57. Flame bait.

No good can come of this.


Heard of the OFF BUTTON?

[LoZoccolo]

61. I think a discussion about prejudice is entirely appropriate.

Seeing that non-prejudice is a liberal value and all.

[kaitykaity]

66. This is not a "discussion" of anything.

This is a flame war.

:puke:

[Renew Deal]

67. This is not flame bait.

It's not flame bait because you disagree. We are thankfully thinking people here, not "dittoheads."

[kaitykaity]

69. We'll see.

Insults flying, deleted messages, cursing ... real real flamey.

You didn't start a discussion for "thinking" people. You started
a flame war.

[Renew Deal]

71. Like I said

It's not a flame war becaue you disagree. Do you have anything else to contribute? I know, I know. The alert button, bottom left.

[WillyT]

59. So... I Guess You Guys Don't Listen To Malloy Much, Huh ???

Interesting.

:shrug:

[Dookus]

60. I don't like Malloy

but I have to agree with him on this topic.

[rumguy]

65. I'll take your average Christian anyday over an Islamic extremist

Islamic extremists are fucking insane.

[Moderator]

73. locking

this could eventually turn ugly