One last time: What about the GD EAR PIECE!?!

[goclark]

We discussed the possibility of the Chimp using his ear piece for these debates.

What is happening with that critical issue?

We have got to make sure the public is on the look out for the slightest sign of one.

We also need to make sure that the Rethugs know that we will call them on it. Did Vernon Jordan put that in the agreement and if not what is being done to level this playing field?

How can we make sure the words gets out, the clock is ticking.

:mad:

[dogtag]

1. Is the 32 page agreement online somewhere?

I've seen talking head hosts waving it around on the air, but have also heard that it's 'secret' and am now confused. Are they using a prop agreement?

There will be no teleprompters nor notes, so the Shrub will be without lifelines UNLESS he has his trusty earpiece. The tip off is when his sentences get really, really short and extra herky jerky.

He needs to be frisked!

[Lefta Dissenter]

2. ok, it's bad enough to frisk him

but who's gonna stick their fingers in his ears to make sure nothing's in there? :puke:

(don't stick your fingers in too far - they'd meet someplace in that empty space in the center of his head)

[goclark]

3. I am fearful that this will be lost in the Media Love Fest

We have got to get our spin on it before the debates.

I read someplace that the 1st debate is the most critical. If so, it will be too late if they let him have the ear piece on Thursday.

Thanks for responding to my concern.

[cthrumatrix]

4. it's no secret...count on him having one

[Bimini_Twisted]

5. Kerry should flat out ask him.

[goclark]

14. Wouldn't it be better if Vernon Jordan

had a nice little Press Conference and included it in "last minute detaiils" about the debate?

[Strawman]

45. Bush should just lipsynch the whole debate

Hey, while you're at it Mr. President how about singing "Blame it on the Rain", "Girl You Know it's True," and "Don't Forget My Number?"

Then we could hear the press gush about how surprisingly well he mouthed the words. They could have Fab or Rob or whichever one of those Milli Vanilli guys is still alive on NBC to give an assessment of how well the President did.

UGH!

[goclark]

48. The press is ready willing and able

to do whatever is necessary to support Lil Hitler!

We need to keep our TIVO's ready for this debate - check for any and all signs of ear involvement.

[librechik]

7. If he is on live video, he will have an earpiece (AFB)

People on camera have to have this so they can hear the director tell them when to talk, when the break happens, which camera is live, etc. Can it be used to cheat? Possibly. But other people might hear.

Kerry will have an earpiece too.

[goclark]

10. Why is * the only one

that looks so strange when he is apparantly listening to voices?

I can not remember anyone else talking like that on live TV.


I will bet that his earpiece will be different.

If they are both to have earpieces, how will they choose which to use?

[GR]

6. It's Not In The Agreement...

http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/2004MemorandumUnderstanding.pdf

The CIA probably has earpieces so small they will fit inside the ear in a completely invisable way...I think your suspicion is highly relevant.

Debators can't have notes or un-evaluated pens but nothing in agreement about earpieces. They allow phone line to director from campaign spokesperson though. Could Bush's person complain and they would then relay to Lehrer who would change his question or followup? I think so...

[Stephanie]

28. Wouldn't this apply? No "tangible things"

(c) No props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings
or other tangible things may be brought into the
debate by any candidate. Neither candidate may
reference or cite any specific individual sitting in a
debate audience at any time during a debate. If a
candidate references or cites any specific
individual(s) in a debate audience, or if a candidate
uses a prop, note, or other writing or other tangible
thing during a debate, the moderator must interrupt
and explain that reference or citation to the specific
individual(s) or the use of the prop, note, or other
writing or thing violates the debate rules agreed to
by that candidate.

[goclark]

43. Fox is in charge of the cameras

for the first debate.

They will never show the Ears of Bush.

[LoZoccolo]

8. Does anyone have HDTV and a good DVD recorder?

I remember people passing out way high-res Janet Jackson pictures where you could clearly see the nipple poking through the boobie sun, and it was like HDTV or something. I think this would make it way easier to spot the earpiece!

[goclark]

16. We have got to get proof!

Someone said that both candidates can have earpieces.

How will they select them and will they flip coins for which one they pick?
How will it play out?

[NYC Liberal]

9. Kerry will need one.

After all, someone needs to translate from Bush to English.

[irancontra]

11. the thing I've noticed though.. is that he ALWAYS has an earpiece

did you see him on the Olying Factor, you can see him kinda look to his left & strain (likes he's listening), also during Rosy garden press I noticed it too.. watch his movements.. Manchurian baby. jeesus help us :P

[Stephanie]

15. It's when he shakes his head back and forth and pretends to be thinking

That's when he's getting the lines fed to him. He sort of leans forward and shakes his head.

I'm sure it's Karen on the microphone. It's her language.

[Sophree]

34. He shakes his head back and forth

When he doesn't want to say what they are telling him to say.

[Sparkly]

12. Three things Kerry campaign should bring Thursday

Scanners, recording devices, scramblers.

Scanners to pick up broadcast signals; recorders to record any evidence of Chimp being fed answers.

And/or, scramblers to interfere with any such signal.

It may seem tinfoilish, but if you agree, send the idea to the Kerry campaign -- http://www.johnkerry.com/contact/contact.php

And keep it under the radar, so to speak, because the best thing possible would be to catch BushCo trying something like that -- better even than preventing it.

[goclark]

13. I sent an email a few days ago but

I can't be sure that they( Kerry Campaign) are doing anything about it.

I have seen nothing in the news to indicate that it may be a possibilty for Chimp's ear piece to be a reality.

This is critical to the success of the debates.

I'm sure they have trained their puppet to do a lot better so no one will notice the ear piece responses.

You can bet, since they have not heard an outcry from the crowd ,that they are bold enough to use it.

They will stop at nothing!

[dmr]

23. I just called the national headquarters

and left a message, then called the NY headquarters voicing concern.

Even if there is a rule against an ear piece, I don't trust liar Bush* to honor any agreement.

Contact National Headquarters
Kerry-Edwards 2004, Inc.
P.O. Box 34640
Washington, DC 20043
202-712-3000
202-712-3001 (fax)
202-336-6950 (TTY)

[rndmprsn]

37. Done

sent them an email about the earpiece.

[Demoiselle]

47. Agreed! Scanners and scramblers! Oh please let it happen.

eom.

[WI_DEM]

17. yep, he'll have an earpiece and if you follow it and tear down the

curtain there will be Cheney mouthing--the wizard of Odd.

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. Kerry should point it out on National TV....

"Hey Dude, what's that earpiece doing in your ear? Is KKKRove giving you the answers, or sumthin'?"

[goclark]

19. I would love to see that happen!

It is such dirty politics!

If we were doing something like this,they would have little plastic ear pieces following Kerry all around.

[npincus]

20. someone should run a microwave oven backstage

to cause interference in Bush's earpiece's feed!

[Teaser]

21. Jam the sucker.

Unless they frequency hop, that should do the trick.

[goclark]

22. Will the Kerry camp get arrested for doing

something like that, I bet so.

Can't mess with the Boy King but Boy King can kill thousands and it is OK.

[Southern Patriot]

25. Even better!

Can you see the headlines? Kerry aide arrested for keeping Bush from getting help.

Of course, Rove would claim that Bush needed the earpiece for national security purposes.

[KurtNYC]

27. Use pure white noise

across the whole spectrum. Here is such a device:
http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/Personal.htm

[moondust]

24. "No props, no notes, ..."

Heard last night that this was one of the rules. I assume that "no props" would include no earpieces but I wouldn't bet anything on it.

[goclark]

26. Thanks Buzzz

Sure wish we had a better defination of "props."

I bet that would mean no bottle of Heinz Ketchep to advertise for Teresa...LOL

[caledesi]

29. We demand a "cavity search" on *. LOL! nt

[goclark]

39. I just did a search

for ...

George Bush earpiece." There were so many examples,here is just one.

On blogspot.com

snip >TIMID TIM TRIES TO GROW A SPINE



snip>Two wild theories: 1) When Dubya pauses, looks down and shakes his head from side to side, it's a tell. It's a lie - and probably a non-verbal request to receive a prompt though his earpiece. 2) Rove wanted Bush to answer to only a few issues, war justification and AWOL in particular, so the subject matter was narrowed by agreement with Meet the Press.

[David Zephyr]

52. Caledesi! No Cavity Searches With Bush. There's No End to That Asshole!

No end.

[Stephanie]

30. Who knows how to reach Vernon Jordan?

He's in charge of debate negotiations - he needs to know about this.

[goclark]

31. Help somebody!

I tried to send a fax and there was an error.
I'll try again in the middle of the night.

[Stephanie]

32. Who did you try to fax?

Jordan?

[goclark]

36. No - the Kerry Campaign

I'll try Jordan now that I have the number.

[Stephanie]

33. Contact info for Jordan:

Vernon E. Jordan, Jr.
Senior Counsel
Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP
Robert S. Strauss Building,
1333 New Hampshire Avenue,
N.W.Washington,
District of Columbia 20036-1564
Telephone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

[n2mark]

35. Earpiece

I've always questioned Bush wearing an earpiece But, if the CIA is ticked off with him, maybe they will put in a weak battery.

But, with what is it 30 seconds to answer a question,? by the time the voice at the other end connects to the pea brain, we may not need to worry. It would be great to have someone scrabble his messages though or fast speed the messages!

These debates are a farce. And pea brain needs to practice for a 30 second answer?

WAKE UP AMERICA, YOU ARE BEING SNOOKERED!

[goclark]

38. The spin factor is all in his favor

If he just shows up he is a winner!:puke:

[drthais]

40. it's on the C-Span website!

look under Election 2004 / Presidential Debates
its in a grey column to the right

Adobe Acrobat format

it really sucks, too

[goclark]

41. What's on the CSPAN site?

Is it something about the earpiece?

I looked on the right hand side and couldn't find anything,

[goclark]

42. Hot Off The Press Evidence!

Someone just told me that they heard the
ear piece gaffe on June 5 at the pre D-Day press conference
in France wherein our boy king suffered an audio malfunction
and the little voice feeding him his lines was heard over the
airwaves.

Not many of us saw it, but it did happen they tell me.

This is a serious issue. The shrub has,through practice,
gotten quite good at using the ear piece
prompt.

Someone somewhere has this on tape.
The reporters present would not have heard
it and not sure if the control room was even aware that it was
happening. If that had been the case, it would have been
cut off quickly and it wasn't. The audio lasted at least 5
minutes and you could clearly hear the 'voice' telling Shrub
which reporter to point to in the q and a.

If anyone has any additional information please let us know.
The clock is ticking until the debate.
:crazy:

[Roland99]

51. Could you be more vague?

[goddess40]

44. It's been implanted in his brain

so it won't be visible.

Even if he's been given the answers in advance, how will he be able to remember them and keep them straight.

I have a draft related question for the town hall type debate.
Mr Bush now that the loop holes that you and Dick Cheney used have been closed how will your daughters avoid being drafted, And Sen. Kerry will your two year national service have a place for learning disabled adults?

[goclark]

46. Fair questions

The issue with the ear piece is that IF he has it, he can at least get a few words out that they feed him.

If he doesn't have the ear piece, all of his learning disabilities and years of drinking issues will be out there. The True GW will be seen to the American people.

We deserve to see the real GW with puppet strings and all.

[TankLV]

49. We shall see.

If the dems allow this to occur, without any protest or publicity, it will say volumes.

We need street fighters, not wimps.

We shall all know after tomorrow nite.

I fear for the worst and hope for the best.

[goclark]

53. Let's all tape every minute of the debate

I want proof positive.

Hope we are not too late.
Question: if someone in the audience brings a jamming devise, would they he arrested?

[TankLV]

50. This is the major issue, aside trom the debates actually occuring.

I am glad you brought this up again.

I hope our guys are on top of this, too.

I just couldn't bear for the pros to be so stupid as to not address and successfully head off this issue.

I don't doubt for a nanosecond that the repukes would try something like this or in the same vane = like getting the questions in advance or getting to control the questions in the first place.

My hope is that someone in the audience brings along a jamming or listening device - so strong as to create a commotion that would clearly bring this out in the open for everyone to see.

I pray and I hope.

[Gin]

54. the agreement stated no devices of any kind....but...the moderators

refuse to sign the agreement...so far only the 2 parties have signed on...so...if the whole group won't agree...I bet he has an ear piece.

There is no way in hell..he will field questions he has not be prepped for without an ear piece....but...if the gods are smiling that night...and he gets pissed...we could witness a wonderful display of childish teenage behavior.

The agreement was on the PBS NOW website in PDF format.

[goclark]

55. Thanks for the info

there is another thread on this forum now about the ear transmitter.

They have some excellent examples of compelling ear tricks by Bush.