I can't understand why there is no interest here in the VP debate?

[Onlooker]

Is anyone going to watch it? Does anyone care what happens with it?

[cali]

1. There's a ton of interest

here. There were several threads on it yesterday. I started one myself that got 30 or so responses. I've just said all I have to say on the subject.

[Catfight]

2. Hell yeah. The VP debates when Perot sent the General emphatically

turned me off to Perot. He had my vote until the General acted like a lunatic, the VP is one heart beat away from taking office.

[tavalon]

13. Actually,

there have been some pretty credible arguments that the current vp is actually the acting president. It's a pretty good job if you can get it - all the power and little of the accountability.

[frank frankly]

3. oh, I am interested. VERY interested.

mostly because John Edwards is going to CRUSH Dick Cheney.

Oh it is going to be PRETTY.

[Barad Simith]

4. I can't wait!

I think part of my interest is in light of the stomping Kerry gave Bush on Thursday.

Cheney will be under a lot of pressure to try to save the race, while Edwards will go into it with assurance, calm and credibility.

[BlueCollar]

5. Edwards V. Cheney

Senator Vs Asshole...

it ain't gonna be pretty but I'm gonna watch...:evilgrin:

I really want Edwards to wax the smug, arrogant SOB

[Gore1FL]

6. i am looking forward to it

I want Edwards to ask a couple of things (directly or rhetorically)
"Mr Vice President, was Saddam Hussein an immenent threat to America when Haliburton did business with him while you were CEO, or did he become a threat after you and president Bush took office?" Please explain either case.

"President Bush stated in the last debate that he knew who Osama bin Laden was. You seem to confuse bin Laden and Saddam quite a bit yourself. Have you overcome the confusion that president Bush claims to have overcome, or do you stiull believe Iraq had something to do with 9/11?"

[spooky3]

34. Do the same rules apply to the VP "debate"? I think that for the Pres.

"debates", the candidates were not allowed to ask each other questions.

[CrowNotAngelGRL]

47. And remember Bush said

he knew after Kerry corrected him and he even once said Saddam but quickly corrected himself to Osama. :eyes: I guess he's not used to saying his name, eh?

[RebelOne]

7. I'm interested, but I am just going to wait until it happens. n/t

[Algorem]

8. Cheney better put his pacemaker on high.

http://www.kleveland.org http://www.cleveland.indymedia.org/

[JCMach1]

9. No debate needed... just a snapshot...

Life and the absence of life...

[nofurylike]

11. whew! that is a powerful statement. absolutely. n/t

[nofurylike]

10. even i've seen plenty of comments about and anticipation of

the VP debate,
despite being working ALL NIGHT AND DAY EVERY NIGHT AND DAY for the week before the debate that was **just one day and some hours ago**, getting the media aware of the fact that we will NOT tolerate another corporatewhore media dissing of the democratic candidate, as was done to Al Gore.

that particular debate having been THE most crucial moment in all the campaign...
thusfar.

"Does anyone care what happens with it?" huh? can you really mean that?

sheesh, let us catch our breath for one whole day? we're back on it already, i assure you.

how about you?



peace

[tech3149]

14. I'd like to see a lot of issues raised.

First a detailed reason the Cheney thinks the Energy Policy Board and meeting notes should not be public information. I would think any person would be proud to help shape the policies of the nation and want it to be known.
What legal or moral basis can be offered for not offering testimony under oath in the investigation of Sept, 11 attack on our nation?

I would play the Halliburton / conflict of interest very carefully. Factcheck.org shows that the stock options are in a gift trust that would donate profits to certain charities. There aren't enough details to be sure of any conflict regarding the Halliburton contracts.

[skooooo]

12. Everyone's interested, I think it's just that...

....everyone is still recovering from Kerry's surprisingly good performance last Thursday. It's all just going to get better from here (I hope!).

[diabhal]

18. How much impact have they historically had?

Being from the UK I'm not an expert on the history of these debates. So does anyone know if any VP debates in the past had any memorable moments that have affected the election? And how much will it be covered by the media? If Edwards wipes the floor with Cheney could that be interpreted by the media as the follow-on knockout punch?

[skooooo]

22. Well..they do tend to have some influence..

..I think. Some years the debates have had dramatic effect - like the Kennedy vs. Nixon. I guess a lot of people don't really pay attention to politics until the debates.

Debates give candidates the opportunity to make much more of an impression on people than the 30 second commercials we've seen all year.

As far as the Edwards-Cheney debate, the contrast between the two will be striking. Cheney is lizard-like. Edwards is almost Kennedy-esque, except he came from a poor background, which helps him with a lot of people. Normally the vice-presidential is ignored. I think this year, though, people will tune in to see Edwards!

[CrowNotAngelGRL]

49. I think people will be

tuning in to all of them unless they just aren't interested for whatever reason or missed it if they didn't know the schedule. A friend of mine said she didn't see the first debate, but I told her the VP one was Tuesday so maybe she'll watch it. If you don't watch the debate and keep up with all that's going on you could miss something big. It's kinda like a soap opera in a way. You don't want to watch it all the time cause it can get stupid, but that one day you don't something major happens. :eyes: Heh heh. :bounce:

[NYCGirl]

31. The VP debates have historically had little impact on the election.

A good showing by Edwards will certainly help, though.

[spooky3]

36. True, but I think 3 factors distinguish this year's conditions:

1--the polls suggest the campaigns are running neck and neck
2--the undecideds feel they don't "know" (rather than dislike/disagree with) Kerry-Edwards, and Edwards has been given little media attention, so this media attention could be very influential
3--as other posters have said, many people believe Cheney to be the real President, with Bush the puppet

[newyawker99]

32. Hi diabhal!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[ZombieNixon]

48. Welcome to DU, Irish Devil!

:hi:

[Kahuna]

15. How do you conclude there is no interest???

Do we have to wear our interest on our sleeves???? :D

[Algorem]

16. The Cleveland paper's 2 articles on the subject:

"Case Western Reserve University Offers All Kinds Of Debate Activities" http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/109670969269310.xml "Edwards-Cheney Match Notable,But Not Vital"(seems vital to me) http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1096796092294911.xml

[Zynx]

17. Edwards is certainly going to beat Cheney on style points.

Probably on substance(I mean publicly perceived substance because after all, the facts are on our side) too. Edwards always makes sure that he's prepared.

[JPJones]

19. There's nothing for us to do until Tuesday night

I trust Edwards. The likable country attorney is going to kick Ernst Stavro Blofeld's butt.

[JI7]

20. there is, it's just that in terms of the election the Pres candidate

debates will matter much more. that's why people go into a lot over it.

although in this case i'm thinking if Edwards kicks Cheney's ass there could be a sense among people that if even Cheney can't do well against someone like Edwards considering the years of experience Cheney has had why should they elect that ticket. since many people might be saying "maybe bush doesn't know much but Cheney can make up for it". i'm sure there were many in 2000 who had concerns about Bush's knoweledge and intelligence who voted for the ticket anyways because of Cheney.

[Snellius]

21. Mr. Rodgers Meets Hannibal Lector

Heard that comparison floated about and can't get it out of my head.

[skooooo]

23. Will Cheney be wearing a mouth guard??

I wouldn't get within 10 feet of him if I were Edwards if he doesn't have it on.

[fudge stripe cookays]

24. Dude, you owe me a new monitor!

Still mopping up this morning's coffee on that one.

Thanks for the giggle
FSC

[liberal N proud]

25. Plan on being at the ralley following the Debate.

[Cha]

37. Lucky you!

Rally for us! :kick:

[westley]

26. New attack for Edwards

Don't know if anyone has heard about the resignation of the cybersecurity chief...again...name is Amit Yoran. He left with only one days notice...must have really been ticked off. Recall this is the post that Richard Clark resigned from. Suggest Edwards include this little tidbit in the debate.

[newyawker99]

33. Hi westley!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Lefta Dissenter]

27. who's not interested?

Though the vp debates in the past haven't exactly been turning points, I think that this one will be absolutely crucial in continuing the turn of the tide for US! Just building more momentum as we head toward Pres Debate #2, not to mention the fact that people will have the opportunity to see that Kerry and Edwards make a great team. Not just Kerry dragging along a pretty boy to garner votes. One-two punch and all of that.

[henslee]

28. Edwards is the bunker buster. Not only is he eye candy for the ladies but

he will deliver the goods. Most probably a polite and measured but blistering attack on Bush and Mr. Undisclosed location -- keeping in step with JK. He is seasoned from a whole summer of stumping. He was born for this.

[Cha]

39. lieberman he's

NOT! We deserve this VP debate after the sickening performance by lieman 4 years ago.

[henslee]

42. Remeber that "Ladies love Rummy" shit they were pedaling a while back?

Im laughing as a type this.

[Cha]

43. Wonder how they're "lovin" him now..

especially the Military Moms? :grr:

[autorank]

29. Cheney can run but he can't hide!

The Dickster is in for a long 90 minutes. I just saw where his debate prep handler has reviewed all of Edwards major campaign speeches and his biggest jury summaries as a trial lawyer. ROFL. I've seen every Oscar De La Hoya fight and there is no way, if I had the misfortune to get in the ring with Oscar, I'd experience anything other than a major ass kicking. DOWN GOES CHENEY! DOWN GOES CHENEY! DOWN GOES CHENEY!

[doni_georgia]

30. Hell yeah I'm interested and will be watching

The contrast between Edwards and Cheney is so phenomenal. Cheney is surly, mean-spirited, negative, and sarcastic. He always has a sneer on his face, and talks down to people like he can't be bothered. Edwards is charming, out-going, warm, passionate, and real. He is handsome, and talks to people like he's known them his whole life. The press will be playing the experience v. inexperience card - but don't forget Edwards is a self-made millionaire on his ability to persuade people. He is a commanding speaker, and he is quick - very quick - I can't wait!

[Cha]

35. My friends and I are tons interested in

the debate on Tuesday! I hope everyone here is interested also..

It's our shot to shoot that, "go fuck yourself", evilturd DOWN!

And Edwards is just the guy who can DO it!

[matcom]

38. I can't understand how you could make such a false statement

of COURSE we are interested in it. do a search over the last couple of days on posts (mine included) not only talking about it but stating that it could be THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE in light of Kerry's kicking Shrub's ass last week

:eyes:

[Onlooker]

41. I did a search

There are relatively few discussions about the debate. In fact, do a Cntrl-F even on whatever page this thread is on, and see for yourself how few threads talk about the debate. I did regular searches for "Edwards" (subject only) and think I only came up with 41 active threads, most of which had nothing to do with the VP debates, and at least four of the others I started!

My concern is that the Dems will spend all their time basking in the glory of a victory in debate 1, but, as a New England Patriots fan, I'm convinced that the only game that counts is the next game. And the next game is Edwards v. Cheney.

[RafterMan]

40. I'll let you know

after the elections.

[progressivebydesign]

44. What are you basing that assumption on, Onlooker?

We're totally THRILLED to watch the VP debates!! I can't wait to see Snidley Whiplash debating Dudley DoRight! It'll be a hoot! Cheney is a podium leaning, snearer.

[otohara]

45. One Debate At A Time Please

huge interest - where did you get that idea?

[CrowNotAngelGRL]

46. I AM!

I wasjust more excited about Kerry though, but I can't wait for Edwards either. :D :bounce: