Poll on Iowa Caucus out come in GD-P

[Debi]

Interesting....Vilsack isn't getting any support....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2308515

[pstans]

1. interesting poll

Check it out. I posted a couple of comments, but don't get scared away, there is some interesting discussion.

[Kindigger]

2. Hi Debi

I'm coming on over :hi:

Introducing myself- I'm 47f & disabled w/chronic pain syndrome. I seldom post, but read several times a day. It's not that I don't have anything to say. Pain and lack of sleep tend to make one think slowly. By the time I get anything coherent together, the thread is on the third page.

I was thinking about your caucus thread, and my reply. I've thought about it several times today, trying to remember back to that night. You'd said something about first and second choices. I realize now there was a large group of people in the non-viable Kucinich, and Gephardt corners who had no second choice.

The guy leading the thing didn't seem to know what to do about it. He was just going to count the viable groups, and forget about them altogether. I remember him saying, "We're going to count what we've got so you can all get back home and watch TV, unless anyone has something they want to say."

Being my first caucus, I'd read up on it beforehand. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I stood up, walked up to the podium, and tried to convince them to join our group. Two or three others followed my lead, and we eventually got them to move. It was funny, because there was a whole family in the Kucinich camp...grandma,grandpa,kids. Grandma went to Edwards, and the rest of the family came to the Kerry camp where we had a group hug :)

I guess what would have happened is delegates going to the convention non-committed? Oh well, it was a learning experience.

Anyway, I'll try to hang here more often with my purple state peeps.

[Debi]

3. Glad you stopped by!

When a person is in a non-viable group they have two choices, join a viable group or sit out the count. If a person sits out the count the numbers have to be re-figured as if the person had not attended because that's basically what they're doing, not attending the preference part of the caucus. A friend of ours did that w/Dean, she was non-viable and didn't want to join any other group, so she was dropped from the counting for preferences.

If it happens that there are two groups of non-viables that combined would equal one delegate but won't join the other preference group (say Kucinich/Clark are both non-viable but won't combine behind Kucinich or Clark or any other candidate) the group combined would become the Undecided preference group and get one delegate to go to County Convention as an undecided.

If I'm wrong about any of this I hope someone here will correct me!

Hope you stop by and post often - the Iowa Forum is slower than that main board so our discussions stay on page one for a while. Good group here and good discussions. :hi: