Harold Ford Jr. is the man!

[Jackson4Gore]

Hey fellow Tennesseans!

My name is Chris D. Jackson. I am 18 years old and the Vice Chair of the Lawrence County Democratic Party. Right now I want to encourage you to support Harold Ford Jr. I recently got to meet Mr. Ford and we have since became friends. We stay in touch and he will be visiting our party here in Lawrence County soon. I will also have a position in his campaign when things get started up later on. He is young, intelligent, well-spoken, and tough on the issues. I think he would really be on of our greatest Senators if elected. He always puts the state's best interest at heart when making decesions. That is the thing about him--he has a conscience. We don't need to send someone to Washington who doesn't have the expereince it takes to get things done and effectivley fight for Tennesseans.

So please, at least take a look at Harold and his views before making a decesion. He can win and will win; but we can't do it without you!

For more: http://fordfortennessee.com/

Thanks, Chris D. Jackson
Democratic Vice Chair
http://lawrencedemocrats.org/

[FreedomAngel82]

1. Sorry but my vote goes to

Rosalind Kurita. She rules. Check her out. You can visit her site and the URL is in my sig. She's SO much better then Ford. Ford is too much of a DINO for my taste's.

[Jackson4Gore]

2. I don't see Kurita offering anything

Ford is already established in Washington. He is respected on both side of the isles and can deliever the goods for us in Tennessee. He has a plan for jobs, healthcare, a new plan for Iraq, and much much more. He has been a great Rep. for 9 years and will make a great Senator for years to come.

[FreedomAngel82]

7. Do you know anything about Kurita???

Try doing some research on her. I want a real democrat.

[Clark2008]

3. I'll get your back, Chris.

We'll be ostracized on this board during the primaries, but Harold's gonna beat Rosalinda.

I have a theory that even conservative Dems will vote more along party lines if we take back Congress in 2006 and have a Dem majority. Ford is just not a "boat-rocker." He's not evil or contemptible and he will be the nominee.

[Jackson4Gore]

4. Thanks

He really is a good guy and cares about the state and the people. I might not always agree with him, but I know that the decesion he makes is his.

[Clark2008]

5. Go here and join:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/haroldfordjr2006/

[Jackson4Gore]

6. Thanks for the link

I will link it from our party website too: http://lawrencedemocrats.org/

I briefly spoke with Harold yesterday and he said he is on the run all the time now. He is criscrossing the state daily taking his message to the people. Hopefully when the Congress recesses for summer vacation, he will be able to visit even more people in the state.

We will win!

[Geek_Girl]

29. I went to a Harold Ford Friend Raiser in Chattanooga

Right after the Nov election everything he said really pissed me off. I walked out during the question and answer session.

He sounded like a republican.

He voted for the constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. Because he believed gays getting married was morally wrong.

He supported the Iraq war.

He dissed Al Gore during the friend raiser.

He told a lady who was asking questions about voting irregularities, "that the democrats lost we need to get over it and move on."

He said allot of positive things about wall street and he didn't have a populous bone in his body.


The only things I agreed with him on was alternative fuels and social security. Until very recently when his uncle and his fund raising buddy Crutchfield were set up by the FBI, I thought he was a republican.

[FreedomAngel82]

8. Sorry but he's not a real democrat

He's such a dino just like Joe Liberman. Sorry but Joe is enough in the Senate. Is Harold Ford going to be the next one to give Bush a kiss?

[Jackson4Gore]

9. Sure he is

Give me 5 examples of how he is a Republican. Show me five BIG issues that make his a "Bush" lite candidate. One will be the Iraq war, which I concede I disagreed with him on. However, he now says the Bush team is doing things all wrong there and we need a new strategy. But I am curious, what makes him a Republican and what makes Kurita a real Democrat. Remember, I want specific examples.

[tnlefty]

27. I'm curious to know why you think that you will be ostracized

during the primary? Because people voice their opinions about not liking some of the positions of Ford and bring it up? Because some may be looking for info. on all of the candidates who are running? Because some people may take exception to Ford being the foregone conclusion to be the nominee without mention of anyone else?

[Jackson4Gore]

28. There is a difference in debate of the issues and lying

As Bob Dole once said, "If you stop lying about my record, I'll stop telling the truth about yours."

All I want is a substansive debate of the issues, not this type of stuff. That is all.

[tnlefty]

10. I think that I may vomit. Gore's name and a request to vote for

Ford, Jr. in the same post. Request denied.

[Jackson4Gore]

11. Wow, real respectful

Gore, who is one of our greatest statemen in our country and Ford who has been nothing but a positive gleam on Tennessee while in Congress can't get your support? My question then is I guess: who can you support?

[FreedomAngel82]

12. Kurita for one

If you want to find out about her click on the link in my signature. Tons of information to show how she's a real democrat and Ford is a dino who doesn't deserve to be there. Unless you want another Joe Liberman kiss.

[Jackson4Gore]

13. Ok, still waiting on your examples.

[FreedomAngel82]

14. Here's some stuff I found on Ford

You asked for it.

http://www.wreg.com/Global/story.asp?S=3447749

http://www.abc24.com/news/state/story.aspx?content_id=771E55B2-4583-44D5-BAAD-1A16BC487994

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2005/06/harold_ford_mis.html (here he shows he's against Howard Dean. :mad: Here he clearly manipulated the quote Dean gave. Goes to show you the type of person he is if he manipulated the quote from Dean on the GOP. We all know Dean never said any such thing Ford is accusing him of.)

http://newsfare.com/laniac/frames.php?item_url=http%3A%2F%2Firregulartimes.com%2Findex.php%2Farchives%2F2005%2F05%2F28%2Fharold-ford-junior-scandal%2F&recommend_id=236-{SHA}9HfemP%2F4OAVq3McP325cmnM0HYg%3D

Here's stuff from the last one:

Harold Ford Jr. has not been a strong friend of progressives during his tenure in the U.S. House of Representatives. He’s flipped and he’s flopped, casting votes on issues depending on what way the favored political winds were blowing from. He’s said that he supports gay rights, but voted against them on many occasions. Harold Ford Jr. has refused to support H.R. 952, legislation that would make it illegal for the U.S. government to send prisoners held in the United States to foreign countries to be tortured. Congressman Ford has also not supported H.R. 1157, a bill that would revoke sections of the Patriot Act that allow government agents to secretly search through the financial and library records of law-abiding American citizens.

In spite of the fact that he is a Democrat, Congressman Harold Ford Jr. has often stood with George W. Bush. He’s provided support to President Bush’s attacks on separation of church and state, freedom from cruel and unusual punishment, and protection from unreasonable search and seizure. Harold Ford Jr. has been a shameless self-promoter in the U.S. House of Representatives, trying to make a name for himself by criticizing Democrats for not being Republican enough. Harold Ford Jr. has quickly become the Joseph Lieberman of the U.S. House of Representatives.

No one knows whether Harold Ford Jr. was at all involved in the corrupt activities of his uncle John Ford. So far, no evidence of a direct connection has emerged. However, it’s a plain fact that both Congressman Ford and State Senator Ford were part of the same political machine. From a pragmatic standpoint, Harold Ford Jr. is tainted by the ethics scandal that has engulfed John Ford.

There is another Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in 2006. Rosalind Kurita has been campaigning hard, and started months before Harold Ford Jr. stepped into the race. Ford is damaged goods, and will not be able rally Tennessee Democrats beyond the borders of Memphis to support his campaign in a general election. If Harold Ford Jr. really cares about anything more than his own political ambitions, he will drop out of the race for the Democratic nomination for the U.S. Senate. Given his record, I don’t have high hopes for Harold Ford Jr.’s sense of selflessness.

[Jackson4Gore]

15. No substance whatsoever

Again you drag up stuff about his family. There is absolutley no evidence whatsoever that Harold is tied in with his uncle. For you to say so is slander.

It appears that you get all your talking points from the article above. Hence the Joe Lieberman comment and tying him in with his uncle. I would advise you to read a little more instead of relying on biased accounts such as the ones you read. Trying to demean other Democrats get no one anywhere. Lying about them does harm.

I hope that you do not speak for the Kurita campaign because if you do, it does not bold well in the area of legitimacy. The tactics you are using are Republican-lite and just plain wrong.

[Jackson4Gore]

16. One more thing

You know, after re-reading that article those are the same tactics and buzzwords they used about John Kerry during the campaign. Flip flopper, voting which ever way the political winds blow, self promoter, Bush-lite, ect. I would urge you not to use this type of rhetoric. What good does it do to be Democrats if we in turn use their tactics on our own candidates?

[FreedomAngel82]

18. Ford is a pure dino

Support a real democrat if you want to turn the state blue. Or do you want to see another democrat get a kiss on the cheeks from Bush again? Simply disgusting. What kind of democrat gets George Bush's autograph?

[FreedomAngel82]

17. Obviously you have missed some of my posts

I am no way affiliated with the Kurita campaign. If you knew anything at all with Kurita you would know where she lived which is not in my area and I live in Chattanooga. And can you prove what I say isn't true? How come he didn't file trips he took? He hasn't filed for any from my own research on Ford junior. He agrees with Bush on church and state issues. That alone does not get my vote.

[Lars39]

20. Harold Ford is a "Third Way Democrat", a "New Democrat".

This strategy comes from RW think tanks.
It is basically a way to make sure there are Republicans in both parties running for the same office,
essentially gutting the Democratic Party, yet making it appear that Democrats are represented.

[FreedomAngel82]

21. Exactly

Hillary Clinton is more of a democrat then Ford and that's saying a lot.
I would vote for Hillary before I would Ford.

[Lars39]

23. I've been hunting up my DLC Think Tank Links...

I think they dropped off into etherland, though. :)
I'll keep trying to find them because it's information that is sorely
needed to understand the bigger picture of how the RW has succeeded
(or at least gotten as far as they have)in their coup.
Too many folks being blinded by "celebrities". ;)

[knoxvilleboy]

32. Here's five reasons

I agree that is dirty pool to link Jr. with his uncle. He has always tried to keep his hands clean and I give him credit for that.

That said, I don't think he is electable in Tennessee. I will not vote for him, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him, if he in fact gets the nomination, lose the left side of his party because he has attempted to run to the middle since being elected, and that isn't a charge that could have been made against his father--BTW.

1. His vote on the Bankruptcy bill. It is a vote to hurt his constituents who will be disproportionately to any other districts in Tennessee hurt by it. It was a vote entirely out of self interest to show his acceptability to corporatist Democrats.

2. Harold has played fast and loose on Social Security privatization. Now that he has been called on it he's been quieter, but last year at a couple of meet ups I was grossly disappointed in him. This is an issue that Democrats can win, Harold is still going which way he thinks the win will blow. If and when, I hear say that his committed to preserving SS as it is, and repeats NO and I mean NO Republican talking points on the issue for 1 full year, I will pull up on him. I don't make this comment on the basis of what I've read, I make it on the basis of things he has said TO MY FACE.

3. I notice his support of a constitutional amendment to protect school prayer. I am very opposed to that,

4. Hmm, support of capital gains tax cuts, I don't love that, but when you're fishing for the corporatist contributions I suppose essential.

5. I have a hard time supporting any congressman who voted for the Iraqi war. In Tennessee I take what I can get. I don't like other human rights problems I see, his refusal to support HRs 952 (making it illegal to send prisoners to Gitmo) and 1157 (that would re vote anti-privacy sections of the Patriot Act.

Harold does, you've admitted, stand with the moderate faction who so courageously brought us votes on three particularly dire judges, Brown, Owen and Pryor, whose no doubt stellar court careers will soon begin.

You say he will vote the right way on Supreme Court justices. I see nothing to say that he will. Harold shows himself to be part of the Democratic Party that I oppose and that I am working to change, both with support and with financial contributions. I think Kurita will be a far better senator and I look forward to supporting her in the Democratic primary. Should she not win, I will support the Green Party candidate over Ford.

[Jackson4Gore]

33. Reply

Harold does not support Bush's Social Security plan. He has his own proposal in which he would make the system solvent by lowering benefits for the higher incomes and providing incentives in return for those high income earners. He also has a proposal called the ASPIRE Act which is a brilliant plan that give each newborn in America so money, which will grow over time. Later when the kid is grown, the money can only be withdrawn for college or to build a home. To learn more on the Act, you can check it out here: http://www.house.gov/ford/aspireact.html

You are right, he did support the way. He thought it was right to remove Saddam, but feels the administration has totally messed things up in the aftermath. Just in the past few weeks he has his own plan for success in Iraq and how we can get out soon: http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/tn09_ford/pr_050603_lettertothewhitehouse.html

Also, he does not support all of the judicial nominees. I know for sure that he didn't support Janice Rogers Brown. I talked to him the other day and he told me she was bad for the country. So I don't see him voting with the right on these crazies.

[tnlefty]

19. I agree that Al Gore is a great statesman. I've watched his major

speeches during the past few years. He has eloquently taken on the Bush** administration for their lies. I watched his 5/26/04 speech, the MoveOn Speech, 3 times and I was in tears each time. From the opening of that speech:

"George W. Bush promised us a foreign policy with humility. Instead, he has brought us humiliation in the eyes of the world. He promised to "restore honor and integrity to the White House." Instead, he has brought deep dishonor to our country and built a durable reputation as the most dishonest President since Richard Nixon."

Throughout the rest of this speech he addresses the lies of Bush** and his cabal and their negative ramifications. Has Ford done this? Not that I'm aware of. He doesn't take Bush** on for any of this. He seems to still be supportive of Iraq and all of the spending that goes along with it. Please visit www.costofwar.com and look at how much debt my kids are already in even though not one of them is old enough to have a job, and look to see what this Iraq mess is costing the state of TN.

In paragraph 12 of this speech Mr Gore addresses the comments of Charles Graner, abuser at Abu Ghraib, "The Christian in me says it's wrong, but the Corrections Officer says, "I love to make a grown man piss on himself." Paragraph 14 - "The abuse of the prisoners at Abu Ghraib flowed directly from the abuse of the truth that characterized the Administration's march to war and the abuse of the trust that had been placed in President Bush by the American people in the aftermath of September 11th." Further into the speech Mr. Gore addresses faith, and the concept of right and wrong again. During a luncheon in late April I heard Ford say to a room full of Democratic women that he likes George Bush. He mentioned that Bush is a christian, I'm a christian. Again, a very marked difference between the two men, IMHO.

I have the utmost respect for Al Gore.

[FreedomAngel82]

22. Same here with Gore

I just love Gore. He's a brilliant guy. I agree with tnlefty. Another reason why I won't vote for Ford. If he gets to the Senate and they do have a bill to get out of Iraq would he vote with the democrats or would he vote with the republicans? I still think if he lived on my side of the state he'd be a republican.

[AX10]

24. Ford is far from perfect, but he can win and he';s no...

Zell "tell the slaves to shut up" Miller.

Ford 06'.

[tnlefty]

25. Belated Welcome to DU, AX10!

:hi:

[FreedomAngel82]

26. Sorry but

I still don't like him. He's not as bad as Zell, that's true. I will give him that. He's still a DLC dino.

[Geek_Girl]

30. Kurita is DLC too though

DLC

I guess there are no liberal Dems in TN.

[FreedomAngel82]

31. All you have to do

is look at their records and what they are involved in. That shows you enough what you need to know. Oh and it's nice to see Bredesen isn't on the list. Refreshing.