Medina: Too Nuts For Beck?

[NoPasaran]

What does it take for Glenn Freaking Beck to think you've got a few screws loose?

Radio host Glenn Beck, saying he was responding to e-mails he got from listeners, asked Medina in a national interview this morning whether she believed the U.S. government was involved in the September 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center.

“I don’t have all of the evidence there Glenn so I’m not in a place, I have not been out publicly questioning that,” Medina said. “I think some very good questions have been raised in that regard, there are some very good arguments and I think the American people have not seen all the evidence there, so I have not taken a position on that.”

When Beck asked whether any of her advisers believed the government was involved, Medina said none of them did to her knowledge. He then asked whether she would disavow any advisers who did.

---snip---

After the interview, Beck, who holds sway with many Republican primary voters, said, “I think I can write her off the list.”
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/politics/entries/2010/02/11/medina_says_she_doesnt_have_po.html

Confusion to our enemies!

[eallen]

1. Typical wingnut. Though I guess I better watch out for stray Truthers here...

Descending on me. Like flying monkeys.

When you're too nuts for Glenn Beck, it's time to check your meds.

:hippie:

[sonias]

2. Pot meet kettle

I saw that. That is fricking hilarious. Beck is a birther and he knocks Palin for being a 9/11 was an inside job believer!

Texas Tribune has the audio if you can stand to listen to it. Plus you do have to look at Glenn's ugly mug on the site. :evilgrin:

Texas Tribune 2/11/10
2010: Debra Medina, Glenn Beck, and 9/11 "Truth"
This morning, ascendant GOP primary candiate Debra Medina appeared on Fox News host Glenn Beck's radio show and, by Beck's estimation, steered her campaign onto the fast-track "back to 4 percent."

Beck asked Medina about rumors that she's a "9/11 truther," an individual who believes the government may have been involved in the Sept. 11 attacks.

"I think some very good questions have been raised in that regard," Medina responded. "There are some very good arguments, and I think the American people have not seen all of the evidence there. So I have not taken a position on that."

So will Beck endorse Perry, then?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Sonia

[sonias]

3. Oh and Medina is for "nullification"

And takes pride in saying so!

wikipedia entry
Nullification - a legal theory that a U.S. State has the right to nullify, or invalidate, any federal law which that state has deemed unconstitutional.

:spray:


Sonia

[NoPasaran]

5. Yeah, that led me to label her a Calhounatic

[sonias]

4. Perry Slams Medina

Boy that was quick!

Texas Tribune 2/11/10
2010: Perry Slams Medina

"Today's comments were an insult to the thousands of Americans who lost loved ones on 9/11 and the military men and women who are overseas protecting our country. President Bush worked tirelessly to protect our nation from additional terrorist attacks and anyone who would suggest 9/11 is a conspiracy involving the Bush administration should be ashamed."

Think Perry's people put pressure on Glenn to ask the "9/11 truther" question? Starting to look like a set up.

:popcorn:

Sonia

[white cloud]

6. Debra Medina for Governor Campaign.

Dear Mr. XX
Thank you for contacting the Debra Medina for Governor Campaign.

Debra has responded to questions regarding statements in an interview with Glenn Beck on his radio program Feb. 11, 2010. You can find her comments on her web site at the following link, as well as below. http://www.medinafortexas.com/getPost?p=272

“I was asked a question on the Glenn Beck show today regarding my thoughts on the so-called 9/11 truth movement. I have never been involved with the 9/11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way. No one can deny that the events on 9/11 were a tragedy for all Americans and especially those families who lost loved ones.

The question surprised me because it's not relevant to this race or the issues facing Texans. This campaign has always been about private property rights and state sovereignty. It is focused on the issues facing Texans. It is not a vehicle for the 9-11 truth movement or any other group.

The real underlying question here, though, is whether or not people have the right to question our government. I think the fact that people are even asking questions on this level gets to the incredible distrust career politicians have fostered by so clearly taking their direction from special interests instead of the people, whether it's Rick Perry and his HPV mandate or Kay Hutchison and voting for the bank bailout. It is absolutely the right and duty of a free people to question their government. Texas does not need another politician who tells you what you want to hear, then violates your liberties and steals your property anyway. I fully expect to be questioned and to be held accountable as Governor, and that's the underlying issue here: should people be questioning their government. And the answer is yes, they should be.”

The Debra Medina Campaign welcomes your questions, and we encourage you to vote for Debra Medina for Texas Governor on March 2, 2010 in the GOP Primary.

Sincerely,
Jennifer Asper

[sonias]

7. Too late

She's lost the spin cycle. Perry is already making mince meat of her. He's turning it around and basically saying she is anti-bushie which is sacrilege to the Texas Republicans!

Now round two of the ugly cycle of the R primary is kicking in!

They're forming a circle firing at each other.

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Sonia

[white cloud]

8. Circle the wagons

LOL

And drag BecKKK out of the corner also.

[sonias]

9. And his little dog Sarah too!!

Let's get the whole happy teabag family in the "prayer circle".

:rofl:


sonia

[crispini]

10. This is insane. Rick Perry feels he has to attack Medina?

I mean, WHAT?

[sonias]

12. That means that he feels "threatened" by her

There is no doubt they're competing for the same crazy base.

Burnt Orange Report thinks like I do. They think Perry organized the Beck write in e-mails to "orchestrate" Glenn into posing the question about 9/11 truther position. Perry fights dirty. He follows the Karl Rove book of dirty tricks. It's his real bible.

Burnt Orange Report 5/11/10
Gut Reaction: Team Rick Perry Used Glenn Beck to Attack Debra Medina

Key Point: Do you think Glenn Beck had a large group of random people e-mail him about how Medina's advisors are 9/11 truthers? Or do you think, just maybe, that Team Rick Perry teed him up on this one to attack Medina because they saw her poll numbers were shooting through the roof? And now Perry is supposed to be ready go with radio attack ads about this already...

Has Medina questioned the government's involvement in 9/11 in the past? Maybe. I don't know. I'm not supporting her, so I don't care too much. But wasn't this a really random question to just come out of nowhere?

Here's a big hypothetical that makes too much sense to just be a hypothetical...

I said you knew Medina had made it to the big time when the first attack ads against her started. They've started if Perry has a radio ad ready to go.

:kick:

Sonia

[WolverineDG]

14. Just like Bill O'Reilly taking on Keith

Rs just don't ever learn--you don't punch down. Sounds to me like Perry's afeered of somethin'

dg

[Texasgal]

11. Jeez... atleast it's mildly amusing !

I've been enjoying the anti-Perry commercials however!

[sonias]

13. Kay was feeling left out of the party

Politex blog Fort Worth Telegram 2/11/10
Hutchison weighs in on Medina's 9/11 flap

Gubernatorial candidate Debra Medina is getting all the attention today after comments she made on Glenn Beck's radio program regarding her views on whether the Sept. 11 attack was the work of the US government.

(anip)
...This statement just came in from Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison:

"I know exactly who was responsible for the horrific attacks on September 11th – Al Qaeda terrorists who declared war on America. To suggest otherwise is an affront to the men and women who are sacrificing their lives to root out the terrorists in Afghanistan and around globe. Ever since that tragic day, I have fought tirelessly to ensure that we hunted down the Islamic extremists who target our nation. No one stood closer to President Bush and Vice President Cheney in their efforts to defeat the terrorist threat to our freedom."

Oh Kay, you are way too late to the party. Perry beat you to the punch bowl.

Just how close were you standing to clueless G.W. and the Dick V.P.?

Sonia

[WolverineDG]

15. Close enough to get an autographed copy of

My Pet Goat.

dg

[sonias]

16. Postcards from Crazyville

Talking Points Memo 2/11/10
Postcards from Crazyville

A sign of things to come?

The latest out of the Republican gubernatorial primary in Texas was that Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison wasn't just behind Gov. Rick Perry but was in danger of being overtaken by the Tea Party entrant Debra Medina. Today on Glenn Beck's radio show, though, she mentioned she might be a 9/11 Truther.

Daily Kos 2/11/10
TX-Gov: (not-)BREAKING: Debra Medina is a Truther

The Ron Paul wing of the Republican Party can't help it. They just can't stop themselves. Paul-wannabe Debra Medina just condoned the Truthers on the Glenn Beck show.

(snip)
"I don't have all of the evidence there, Glenn," Medina said. "I think some very good questions have been raised. In that regard there's some very good arguments and I think the American people have not seen all the evidence there."

Of course she immediately backpedaled <wink wink> (after the show was over, of course), but that told Beck's idiot brigade all they needed to hear.

So now in the Texas primary they have a Truther, a secessionist, and Kay Bailey Hutchison. I don't know whether to be more shocked or scared.

Oh noes, now the national groups have more reasons to believe we're crazier than batshit in Texas. :crazy:

[sonias]

17. The Texas GOP Governor's Race: Three's a Crowd

Time Magazine 2/11/10
The Texas GOP Governor's Race: Three's a Crowd
Texas politics is becoming curiouser and curiouser. Take the case of U.S. Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, the Texas Republican who has consistently been re-elected with record numbers. She is now seeing her lead in the state's gubernatorial race go down a rabbit hole — and the contest is on the verge of being usurped by a candidate supported by the Tea Party.

(snip
Meanwhile, Medina has been rising in the polls. In January, she raised $145,000, almost as much as the $190,000 she raised in all of 2009. Medina's debate performance projected a "calm, calm, consistent message that resonated with folks opposed to abortion, for gun and property rights and opposed to the state tax system," says University of Houston political scientist Richard Murray. Medina is tapping into the grass-roots tea party movement and her experience as a campaign worker for Republican Congressman Ron Paul, who is credited with fine-tuning Internet fundraising. Next week, on Feb. 15, the anniversary of the adoption of the Texas state constitution, Medina will hold an online "money bomb" — the same tactic that brought more than $1 million into Brown's campaign in January.

Until this week's PPP poll, Texas political observers expected Medina only to be a factor that would force a runoff between Perry and Hutchison. (To win outright, a candidate must garner more than 50% of the total vote.) According to Murray, Medina afforded voters an instrument to vent with a protest vote; they would then make their choice between Perry and Hutchison in a runoff. But it now appears Medina may be cutting into Hutchison's vote. Some are now speculating about a Perry-Medina runoff.

With her newfound prominence, Medina quickly found herself in controversy. On Glenn Beck's radio show on Thursday, she was asked if she subscribed to the theories of U.S. government involvement in the 9/11 attacks. She said, "I think some very good questions have been raised in that regard, there are some very good arguments, and I think the American people have not seen all the evidence there, so I have not taken a position on that." Afterward, Beck declared that he was writing her off and taking another look at Hutchison, who quickly attacked Medina for even hinting that anyone other than al-Qaeda was behind the 2001 attacks. Medina responded, "I have never been involved with the 9/11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11." She explained that Beck's question surprised her "because it's not relevant to this race or the issues facing Texans. It is not a vehicle for the 9/11 truth movement or any other group."

The story is everywhere today.

Sonia

[sonias]

18. Medina at first takes a pass when asked if 9/11 was inside job

AAS 1/12/10
Medina at first takes a pass when asked if 9/11 was inside job
After radio interview, GOP gubernatorial candidate issues statement saying she does not believe government was involved.
(snip)
When Beck asked whether she would disavow any such advisers, she said she was focused on Texas issues.

"I'm certainly not into mind control or thought-policing people," Medina said. "We've got a very diverse team in this state, and it's because Texans are standing shoulder to shoulder to support and defend the Constitution. I frankly don't have time to go through and do psychological testing on people and know every thought or detail that they have."

(snip)
If the Beck flap reduces her support significantly, an April runoff between Perry and Hutchison would become less likely. Considering Perry has a comfortable lead over Hutchison in most public polls, that's good news for the governor.

(snip)
Beck said he received a number of e-mails when he announced that Medina would be on his show, but the precise impetus of his 9/11 questioning was unclear.

Medina has been a guest on the radio show hosted by Austin's Alex Jones, who is a leading voice among those who believe that the government was involved in the 2001 attacks. Jones has been a vocal supporter of Medina's candidacy.

:popcorn:

[sonias]

19. The Medina Flap: Paul Burka French Kisses Glenn Beck

Texas Observer 2/11/10
The Medina Flap: Paul Burka French Kisses Glenn Beck
(snip)
There are two ways to process Medina's "truther" comments: either she's one herself, and trying to hide it, or she was caught off-guard by the question and bungled the answer badly. I've spent a lot of time speaking with Medina, in preparation for an upcoming profile, and I have no idea which is true. Nor do I particularly give a hoot. Somehow, it didn't occur to me that a candidate for governor of Texas should be judged by whether she believes in some far-fetched conspiracy theory about a terror attack.

The more interesting thing, to me, has been the swift and shocked response from the conservative establishment — led, as usual, by Paul Burka, the Texas Monthly blogger, who dashed off a post headlined, "Medina self-destructs on Glen Beck radio show," his fingers flying so fast that he didn't take the time to spell Beck's first name correctly.

As usual, one of Burka's commenters made more sense than the man himself: "Anonymous" wrote, "Seriously – how is flirting with 911 truthers considered 'self destructive' when Medina and Perry are openly embracing secessionists, separatists, and people who threaten violence because of their fringe views? Who is deciding what is acceptable and what isn’t? 911 truthers just litter internet message boards with their garbage. There are actual people bringing guns to rallies and presidential speeches and calling for secession. Why isn’t that self destructive?"

The anonymous poster on Burka's blog is correct! Why isn't Perry's talk of secession considered just as crazy by the Texas conservatives? :crazy:

Sonia

[white cloud]

20. Glenn Beck obscures Texas Governor’s race with 9/11 question

1. Will Rick Perry now disavow Sarah Palin’s endorsement?
2. Will Glenn Beck disavow Sarah Palin?
3. Will Glenn Beck call Sarah Palin Hitler too?
LOL



UPDATED: added Journal-Post link regarding the possible set-up. Lotsa good info in that one! Also added a 10 minute clip of the interview (minus Beck’s strawman comments) and KLIF 570AM interviews.

So Debra Medina spoke with Glenn Beck this morning on his radio talk show. Glenn saw fit to smear her with the claim that she is a 9/11 Truther. This is particularly interesting considering that the key issues of the race for the Governor’s Seat have been private property rights and state sovereignty. Having come from 4% in the polls all the way to 24% most recently from the PPP poll, Medina is now perceived as a threat to the establishment. What better way to distract voters from valid issues like burdensome taxes or oppressive government policies? Instead of conversing with Debra on a meaningful level, Beck decided it was more worthwhile to write her off as a conspiracy theorist. This is even more odd when you consider that only 16% of people in America now believe the official government explanation of the September 11th 2001 terror attacks!

>>>>>>>
http://rgvrlc.org/?p=614

[sonias]

21. I love that image of Glenn Dreck on that site

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[sonias]

22. Medina is a birther too

Talking Points Memo 2/12/10
Medina: 'It's Healthy That People Are Asking Questions' About 9/11 And Obama's Birth Certificate

It turns out that Debra Medina, the Tea Party activist and candidate for the Republican gubernatorial nomination in Texas who clarified remarks yesterday that seemingly presented her as a 9/11 Truther, later that same day gave an interview in which she dignified both Trutherism and the Birthers.

"The 9/11 Commission report, you know, great sections of that are redacted and they're top secret," Medina said. "That makes us all wonder, 'well what's happening back there?' The same is true with the birth certificate thing. I think it's healthy that people are asking questions."

Double the crazy! :crazy:

Sonia