We're about to lose the gun registry.

[HeresyLives]

OTTAWA–Opponents of a long-gun registry in Canada are about to put a bullet in it.

Both sides of the gun-control debate believe the Conservatives now have enough Commons votes to give parliamentary approval in principle to a private member's bill to kill the registry for rifles and shotguns.

The vote late Wednesday is on the second reading of the bill, which would send it to a committee for more study and possible amendment before it comes back to the Commons, and later the Senate, for a final decision.

However, the registry's supporters and its critics see it as a major step toward the registry's demise.

"I'm concerned about the vote," Ontario Attorney General Chris Bentley said in an interview.

"People shouldn't play politics with public safety. The gun registry saves lives; it protects police officers," Bentley said.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/720808--gun-registry-appears-doomed?bn=1

[Metric System]

1. Cons: Tough on Crime*

*some of the time

[CHIMO]

2. Well

If they want the conservatives, then the police should be happy with the Conservatives policy. Simple.

If the proponents of the registry also want tough on crime then they should accept the Conservatives policy.

Simple. The conservatives are setting the agenda and getting people to support them.

Obviously this is what the people want.

[HeresyLives]

4. Or we could stop splitting the vote

and throw the bums out.

[daleo]

3. People are being given a taste of a true Harper government

One that's not shackled by a minority. It may wake some people up.

[ConcernedCanuk]

5. Good - the "gun" registry is just a billion dollar farce.

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Most that aren't involved do not realize it that the "gun" registry is for RIFLES

hunting rifles, target rifles, all LEGAL, UNRESTRICTED firearms.

Handguns and other restricted weapons like automatics, and some semi-auto are already controlled by a different system.

[HeresyLives]

6. All guns should be registered.

Just like your car, and your dog.

[Mr Kilroi]

7. Just like your car, and your dog.

So when your neighbour sees you walking your dog, he calls the police and you are taken down by the Emergency Response Team?

When your registration tag for your car expires you get a visit from your local LEOs and they seize all your cars and charge you with a criminal offence face 2 years in prison and your not allowed to own any for 5 years?



People that use that line are always ignorant of the Firearms Act and its Criminal Code Offences. You are comparing apple to oranges in this case. There is not a single law requiring a person to register their vehicles. It is only true if they wish to use public roads. But I like your idea lets treat firearms like cars I can own as many as I like and need not register or licence them as long as I keep them on my property...oh did I mention that anyone at any age can buy a car? so you are suggesting a 14 year old with the money to buy a gun should have that right?

Dogs are a living thinking creatures if it contrives to escape a yard it will find a way. However none of my guns have ever been seen walking down the road of their own accord, so that is a bad example...

The fees for your car registry pay for roads in your community,(with government grants for infrastructure) The fees for the registry doesn't even pay for the registry. (I know the fees have been waved while its fate is decided) In fact it was the Liberal Government that started the amnesties albeit for different reasons.

And of course all the criminals lined up and got licenced and registered. ( a 12 year old child figured out that bad guys would not want to register their guns if they were going to bad things with them) Seems a 12 years is capable of more logical reasoning than all the Educated grown ups.

The registering of cars has not prevented drinking and driving nor has it prevented car theft. Why,,,,Why would this be any different with firearms??? The registering of firearms has not solved nor prevented a single crime.

The registry is so inaccurate that it is inadmissible in court as evidence.

Now please explain to me how 2ooo million dollars was well spent registering only 1/3 of the firearms in the country. I can't imagine what the price tag would have been for the other 14 million.

Of course the Canadian Association of Police Chief support it their support was bought and paid for by CGI group one of the contractors for the registry. btw CAPC is a lobby group no different than the NRA or any other lobby. (they initially didn't support the registry, they traded their initial support for a national DNA registry...)

2000 million dollars could have put an MRI in every hospital in the country, funded gang recovery programs, and every womans shelter in the country and provided services to them.

As the advocates for gun control often miss some fine points. The shootings at L'Ecole Polytechnique were made possible by the 1977 Liberal Government firearms act. It removed self protection as a reason for purchasing a firearm, it also required an Authority to Convey (ATC) a concealed firearm disarming everyone except criminals. Bill C-68 which brought in our current firearms act made sure that such a tragedy would happen again..it did at Dawson College...Kimveer Gill was licenced and registered...C-68 was supposed to prevent this from happening...EPIC FAILURE....


However this was not the worse part of C-68.. C-68 blamed firearms owners for the tragedy that occurred in Montreal. It criminalized people who had nothing to do with the tragedy. That is immoral,,It blamed inanimate objects for their misuse that is just irrational,,,or if you will it was an attempt to legislate against insanity...yah that works....

[Bragi]

8. With Harper, a bit of Canada disappears every day /nt