Volpe Calls Conservatives KKK

[Maple]

Conservatives demand immigration minister apologize for Klan remarks TERRY PEDWELL
1 hour, 33 minutes ago

OTTAWA (CP) - The Conservatives want an apology from Immigration Minister Joe Volpe for comparing them to the Ku Klux Klan. The Opposition party is made up of racists, Volpe said Tuesday, calling members recognizable "notwithstanding that they don't have their cowl and their cape."

"The Klan looks like it's still very much alive," the minister added.

Volpe made the comments in response to a poster prank in which two Conservative MPs refer to the Liberals as the The Liberanos, a mocking reference to the television Mafia show The Supranos.

"I think these are a couple of fine, upstanding members of the new Conservative Klan," Volpe said, referring to a picture of Tory MPs Lee Richardson and Werner Schmidt holding a copy of the poster.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/cpress/20050503/ca_pr_on_na/volpe_tories_klan_1

[whistle]

1. Was the Ku Klux Klan ever active to any degree in Canada...

...and if so who did they target with their racism and hatred?

[Telly Savalas]

6. It was...

and the racism was targeted against all the usual suspects. It was most active in the prarie provinces.

Here's a couple of links I've googled, but haven't read:

http://www.usask.ca/education/ideas/tplan/sslp/kkk.htm

(Edited to add: Oops. I've duped Spazito's link. Guess I should read the whole thread before posting.)

http://www.world-spectator.com/archives.25.html

and here's "A History of Racism in Canada":

http://www.hopesite.ca/remember/history/racism_canada_1.html

[V. Kid]

29. I heard...

...it was quite active in the Toronto area as well. But considering the influence it had, electorally, I think you're correct to point out the Praries. I can recall reading somewhere that many Conservative members in RB Bennett's goverment, from Saskatchewan, warned the Bennett about the influence the Klan had in the party or in helping to elect them.

[Telly Savalas]

31. I'd not heard of that...

(although I'm well aware of ugly racist groups past and present here), so a bit more googling has yielded this nice concise history of the Klan North:

http://www.burlingtonghostwalks.ca/mystery.htm
(scroll about halfway down the page to find it)

According to this account, a couple of Americans got the Canadian KKK going in Toronto, but the RCMP squashed it here for the most part, so things got moved to Saskatchewan where it was pretty popular for several years.

[whistle]

32. Thanks, it spreads like a virus, Mad Klan disease

:shrug:

[Spazito]

2. So the Conservatives think it is just swell to call other politicians

Mafia but they can't call the Conservatives Klan members. Both groups are/were murderous thugs.

Here is some information on the Klan in Canada:

KLANSMEN ENTER CANADA

During 1923 the Klan was reported to be organizing in the Montreal area of Quebec and there was a series of incendiary fires aimed at Catholic churches and property. In British Columbia there had been hints of Ku Klux Klan activities since November 1921 when solicitations for Klan memberships appeared in local newspapers. In 1925, the Klan held a public rally in North Vancouver which attracted five hundred people.

In the beginning of 1925 a Klan was founded in Toronto. The Klan was gaining momentum in southern Ontario when in June 1926, a few days after a Klan demonstration, the St. Mary's Catholic Church in Barrie was dynamited. The police were able to show that Klansmen had planned and carried out the dynamiting, and a combined effort by civic authorities, ecclesiastical bodies, and newspapers moved against the Klan in Ontario. Swamped on one hand by ridicule and on the other by revulsion because of the Barrie outrage, the Ku Klux Klan dropped in membership and fell from the public view in Ontario.

The Ontario Klan organizers began to look for greener pastures and in the winter of 1926 Klan organizers crossed the Canadian Shield and entered Saskatchewan. The first Klan organizers in the province, Hugh Finlay "Pat" Emmons and Lewis A. Scott, were experienced Klan organizers from Indiana. They discovered the local racial and religious prejudices. Emmons later admitted that they simply "fed people 'anti's'. We found that they could be taught to hate and fear, we fed them."

Emmons and Scott spent most of early 1927 crisis-crossing Saskatchewan spouting Klan propaganda, burning crosses, selling memberships in the Klan at $13 a head, and establishing local Klans in several centres. Emmons and Scott made one final sweep through Saskatchewan and then disappeared from the province taking with them the Klan funds.

more

http://www.usask.ca/education/ideas/tplan/sslp/kkk.htm

[Maple]

3. Well Conservatives can dish it out

but they can't take it.

Good for Volpe!

[HEyHEY]

34. So I suppose the "High road" is closed for repairs this week?

[Spazito]

35. LOL the high road has been under repair since Pearson, imo

and keeps getting washed out on one side or the other.

[HEyHEY]

36. Damn shoddy High-road construction!

[Canadian Socialist]

4. Oh god lord

That poster is from the last issue of the "Western Standard".

[Maple]

5. Link Byfield, Ezra Levant?

Gosh, what a surprise

[Canadian Socialist]

10. Yup, sorta

(Missing) Link has nothing to do with the Western Standard. Ezra is the publisher. HOWEVER, the elder Byfield (Ted) does write a column for the WS.

To be honest, the poster IS kinda well done. That doesn't excuse the content. I'm just remarking on the art work.:shrug:

To see it in all its glory:
http://www.westernstandard.ca/website/index.cfm?

I take no responsibility for gag reflexes that are induced. Heee.

[CHIMO]

7. How Does Jaffer

Continue to talk while he drinks his coffee?
Why, another ventriloquist.

[Joel]

8. You guys realize

This statement is both hypocritical and bigoted on the part of Volpe. He was not in the house when he said this so privilege can’t protect him. If he keeps his job as a Minister it’s a disgrace to the crown.

The poster in question is in poor taste. That, however, does not excuse the nature of Mr. Volpe's claims.

[Spazito]

9. Both Volpe's comments and the poster are equally distasteful

both sides should apologize to each other and move on, it is small potatoes in the whole scheme of things.

[Joel]

11. It’s

Not small potatoes. Joe Volpe screams bloody murder conservative white evil bigot. That is not acceptable. I’m a card carrying Tory and Joe Volpe called ME a racist. I saw Don Newman show the clip and Volpe believes what he said. He was adamant. If you want to see what real desperate unadulterated hate looks like it was in his eyes.

Two MP’s with poor taste in photo-ops doesn’t make me a racist and it doesn’t make conservative voters racist.

[Spazito]

12. I see, it is okay to make reference to Volpe being Mafia

though, hmmm, interesting. You see the Mafia a much more redeeming group of thugs than the KKK?

As you are a Conservative, I am not surprised you are 'outraged', there is, after all, an attempt by Harper to force an election and every little bit helps I guess.

[Joel]

13. No it's not right to say that Volpe is a Mafioso.

But if you really want to have that childish argument…

The poster doesn’t even reference Volpe. The Sopranos is a show about criminals that happen to be Italian. The show would work with the Russian or Chinese mob. The sponsorship scandal is criminal activity perpetrated mob style. Money passed in envelopes over dinner, bribes, and kickbacks. Libranos is a pun. ‘Racist’ and ‘new conservative klan’ are insulting and degrading. Bid difference.

I live in the heart of Dipper country so an election now or next decade doesn’t really change things for me.

[Spazito]

17. I think that your argument regarding 'doesn't even reference

Volpe' is specious, you and I both know the intent behind the poster. The Reform/Alliance party members have been know to make racist/anti-immigrant/anti-French remarks.


The Sopranos is about a Mafia family not simply a criminal family that happens to be Italian, that is well known.

The report of the Gomery commission will detail exactly what happened and I would rather wait for that than go on he said/he said testimony that has yet to be proven fact.

I do find it interesting that my distaste for the Mafia incident is 'childish' yet your 'outrage' is perfectly acceptable.

As I said, both incidences are childish and inappropriate, both should apologize and move on.

[Joel]

19. well

It appears we see things differently. Not much of a surprise, but banging heads on the internet is like... well we've had enough bad jokes for one day.

I really wish Gomery had the power to point fingers and charge people. 250 million dollars later I at least deserve a couple of good tv hours.

Childish was a poor choice of words on my part. My 'outrage,' your word, stems from being called a racist by Joe Volpe. Joe Volpe got all high and mighty over a pun.

Anyway... Good night. I have to get up early and hate poor poeple tomorrow.

[Spazito]

20. LOL, peace

have a good night, I have to put on my dreads and go to the welfare office.

[achtung_circus]

24. Havn't you figured out yet

that there was a hostile takeover of the Tories by Harper and his wingnut cronies. All done with a nod to the "Grass Roots", of course, but a takeover nonetheless. That it was facilitated by Peter Mackay should make it even more disgusting for you.

Don't think this is the Tories of old. I spent most of my adult life in the west listening to the hate spewing from the mouths of bigots. To call the hard line of Reform the KKK is not a stretch.

[CHIMO]

14. People That Live

In glass houses shouldn't throw stones. That goes for Jaffer as well. Running a business while in Parliament and using a ventriloquist to imitate him is something that he should be aware of. Me thinks that he doth protest too much.

On the poster. Great, we need more. It is almost time for something to make more Alberta voters move to someone that will represent them rather than singing in the choir. Look at Jaffer's last election votes. He only won because the left was split.

[Joel]

16. Yeah

Jaffer is a nice guy in person, but he has no common sense about him. He could have been the party leader someday if it weren't for a certain rick Mercer video that would be played constantly.

[CHIMO]

18. Rick

Didn't try to be his ventriloquist.

Jaffer could still turn out as an honorable person. But not if he wants to become a holier than thou type.

PS. After what the Libs did to Shelia, I don't think that the backing for Volpe goes too deep. I imagine that they will give him plenty of rope to hang himself.

[Canadian Socialist]

15. I assume you're referring

to the "Matthew Johnston incident"?

[CHIMO]

21. Yep

That's the incident.

Just did a google to check the name and this popped up. I have no data on the site.

http://www.straightgoods.com/Freeman/010326.shtml

[Canadian Socialist]

23. Chimo

I would love to give you more inside info re: Western Standard et al, but not on the board. Too bad I can't PM you.

[CHIMO]

25. That' OK

The truth will eventually out.

[Canadian Socialist]

26. If you ever need any info

consider me your "mole" okay? I know these guys backwards and forwards.

[CHIMO]

27. Thanks For The

Offer. I will pass. But take care. There are always wheels within wheels.

Good luck.(Maybe keep a diary for the future.)

[Canadian Socialist]

28. I understand

I do keep a journal. But the scary thing is, it's really boring. Take care Chimo. BTW, love your perogies <heee>.

[Maple]

22. The Conservatives are noted for

'cute' names, and political grandstanding. Don't like them as well when people return the favor though. :rofl:

[arikara]

30. I do feel some admiration for the shiny brassness of their cojones

where they seem to honestly believe that its ok to insult someone, then they become so utterly appalled when there is a retaliation.

Its just so wonderously strange.

[iverglas]

33. and conversely

when they swoon in horror at things like what Carolyn Parrish was completely misrepresented by them as saying, and then say things like this ...