Here's our Caring Conservative, Albus/ Bulldog on Education ...

[non sociopath skin]

... fresh from his website.

http://freebritannia.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=11946&sid=927520161fb677baf39c6466e5a9b5be

Feel the love!

:evilgrin:

The Skin

[Albus]

1. So you support the NUT claim then?

[non sociopath skin]

2. I'd imagine that most people on a centre-left message board ...

... would have a rather different attitude to State Education than your good self, BD.

You're not going to pretend otherwise, are you?

The Skin

[Albus]

3. yes but do you support the 10% pay demand, 4 day week and longer holidays?

[non sociopath skin]

4. Four day week?

The Skin

[Albus]

5. 'Tortured' teachers demand day a week outside classroom

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5145006/Tortured-teachers-demand-day-a-week-outside-classroom.html

[non sociopath skin]

6. So you lied about the four-day week?

You silly old troll, you. :pals:

Still, I guess teaching must be a doddle compared to ... remind us, what's your job again ...?

The Skin

[Albus]

7. So do you support their demands or not?

[non sociopath skin]

8. Show me yours and I'll show you mine.

:evilgrin:

The Skin

[Albus]

9. Okay - I do not support their demands. You?

[non sociopath skin]

10. And do their demands still include a "four day week and more holidays"?

Nothing about either in the Torygraph article you posted.

Surprised you're so coy about your own "profession" BTW, BD. Don't you think folks hereabouts would be very sympathetic?

The Skin

[Albus]

11. You show me yours and I'll show you mine

[non sociopath skin]

12. Sure.

Teacher of English Gateshead, Tyne and Wear then Market Harborough. Leicestershire 1973-86
Head of English, Ashington, Northumberland 1986-2005
Special Needs Support, Gateshead 2005-2006
(Retrained as Psychotherapist specialising in Bereavement and Play Therapy 2005-2007)
Since 2007:
Tutor/ Assessor, North Tyneside Adult Learning
Play Therapist, The Place2Be Blyth, Northumberland
Volunteer Counsellor and Trainee Supervisor, Cruse Bereavement Care, County Durham.

Et toi?

The Skin

[Albus]

13. All very worthy I'm sure but I wasn't seeking clarification of your qualifications...

all I sought was a simple yes or no answer to the question...

Do you support the current demands of the National Union of Teachers?


It can't be that hard can it?

What with all those letters after your name & everything.

[non sociopath skin]

14. AWWW, DIDDUMS!

They aren't my qualifications, Bulldog. That's my work experience. You know, "work" ... the stuff you brag on your site that you "like to watch people doing". Not surprising you're a little coy about your own CV.

Since you ask:
I personally have no problem with the NUT submitting a claim for 10% if that's what their members want. Fat chance they have of getting it. It seems pretty modest compared to the demands of our friends, the Bankers.

I personally have no problem with the NUT asking for one day a week for marking, preparation and administration for all its members. Good employers (including some of those in the private sector) have accepted this for years.

I have no idea what you mean about extra holidays.

You really need to get over this obsession with State Education. It really isn't our fault that you can't squeeze enough out of the tenants in your old man's properties to send your sprogs to Eton.

Maybe you should consider getting a job. They tell me they're recruiting for teachers at the moment ... :evilgrin:

The Skin

[Albus]

15. I don't need a job skin. I have sufficient income for my and my families needs.

If I were to take employment I would just be depriving someone whose need may be greater than mine.

You see.

I'm a man of the people!

Selfless to the end!

[non sociopath skin]

16. You still haven't explained the "extra holidays" bit.

Any chance of a straight answer? :evilgrin:

The Skin

[non sociopath skin]

17. Apparently not.

Much pouting, whimpering and stamping of tiny feet, though ...

http://freebritannia.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=11927

The Skin

[Albus]

18. I was quoting from the Daily Mash spoof piece Sparty, which was in error it seems

I apologise for that.

The fact is, of course, that the NUT are not at present demanding additional holiday entitlement for teachers on top of the 13 weeks they currently enjoy.

They are however seeking a 10% or £3000 per year pay rise (whichever is the greater) and so far you have not answered my question as to whether or not you support that.

You have said that you support their right to make the demand (as I do), but not whether you support the 10% demand itself.

Would you care to clear that up?

[non sociopath skin]

19. Thanks for the "apology". But why are you labouring this point?

It seems that we both support the right of the NUT to enter into free collective bargaining with their employers on the figure agreed by their membership.

Why does it matter so much what I (or you) think about it?

The Skin

[Albus]

20. Well, these are discussion boards, the purpose of which is to discuss

Which means we ask each other questions (and sometimes answer them), express our opinions and have them challenged.

It doesn't matter a fig what you or I think really, we're just a couple of plebs and our views will change little.

But it's why we use these boards is it not?

Of course, you don't have to answer the question if you don't want to.

[non sociopath skin]

21. The rules say ...

"Democratic Underground is an online community for Democrats and other progressives. Members are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals, and to support Democratic candidates for political office."

But you aren't are you? You're a "libertarian" conservative to whom DU's politics is anathema - for example,you make great play on your own website of how much you dislike President Obama - who is playing games by pretending to be otherwise - a flamer, a troll, call it what you will.

So I have no problem in broadcasting the fact and in not wanting to play along.

The Skin

[Albus]

22. define "progressive" and when was the last time you voted for a Democrat?

and where did I make great play about how much I dislike Obama?

I did once say that I found his voice irritating but further than that I haven't made my mind up yet.

and you still haven't answered my question

[non sociopath skin]

23. Perhaps we should ask the moderator who booted you off the last three times to define "progressive"?

The Skin

[Albus]

24. perhaps you should, you've been doing your best to get me removed anyway

[Albus]

25. again. I might add.