BritFreeper response to Menezes: Arm all British police....

[non sociopath skin]

... and it won't happen again.

I kid you not!

http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/sterlingtimes/vpost?id=592480

"Quidnunc" who posted this brilliant suggestion is - guess what - a retired Chicago cop. I guess if we take on board his suggestion, the l'il ol U of K will be as peaceful and crime-free as the good ol' US of A.

I paddle in these waters less since ST gave up being a British "conservative" site and dedicated itself to being a largely American and Israeli "portal" for Islamophobia. But I look in occasionally to have my synesthsia devastated.

Liked the one about Mr. Menezes being responsible for his own death because he was in the country illegally. David Davis are you listening ....?"

Wankers!:argh:

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[Greeby]

1. Hmmph

Anyone who tells you that Britain doesn't have morans, think again

[non sociopath skin]

3. While we are not a moron-free zone, Greeby, most of these are US posters .

... with missionary zeal to bring the Joys of Neoconnery to the British Natives.

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[Mr Creosote]

9. Yeah there's

Kevin Moran for a start. Although he was Irish, but he was here legally :-)

[Mr Creosote]

21. Just read this weeks idiots

and get the "morans" allusion. I'd forgotten that!

[Briar]

2. It's not just the freepers

There are plenty of Brits who describe themselves as left wing or moderate who think the "shoot to kill" directive reasonable and even humane (one innocent person dying is justified by the possible threat to hundreds) and who believe Mr de Menezes was "the author of his own misfortune". "He shouldn't have been here," as one of my friends said.

This is the power of nightmares - it makes authoritarian and repressive measures possible by poisoning the public mind.

[Guy_Montag]

4. I gave up on ST pretty quickly too,

it was ok, when there was proper debate between conservatives & a few liberals. But now it's just boring.

[mrfrapp]

5. Daily Mail

Just read the letters page of the Daily Mail for more of this type of thinking. It's astonishing that these people manage to tie their own shoelaces.


http://www.mailwatch.co.uk/

[Briar]

6. These are the people

Bliar is so eager to appease.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

7. It is unfortunate

that those who know nothing about Britain still want to offer us their opinion on how it should be run, no matter how ridiculous. I don't think that "Quidnunc" could point to the UK, or Europe on a map.

[Mr Creosote]

8. On LBN or GD

there was a poster laying down the law about Britain, very opinionated, who then asked "where is Luton"? And as regards that Express headline - of course the conspiracy numpties will agree that the police shouldn't face murder charges, because it wasn't them, it was Scotland Yard.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

11. In a LBN thread a couple of weeks ago

one poster stated that Britain had a military government. I got a kick out of that one. :crazy:

Maybe it's controlled by the mysterious "Scotland Yard" organisation? :)

[beam me up scottie]

12. No, the best one so far

was the poster who said they were going to cancel their vacation to the UK and stay in the US because London wasn't "safe" anymore.
:spray::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Mr Creosote]

14. That is a good one

another one is that (this wasn't on DU but linked to), you will recall, that the 7th July explosions were originally suggested to have been as a result of some kind of power surge in a transformer at Liverpool Street. The unfortunate Mr De Menezes was an electrician - and there was a link to a site saying that was why he had to die. Although it wasn't clear to me whether the suggestion was that he arranged the explosions for the miltary junta, or merely discovered the truth.

[beam me up scottie]

16. I saw someone post that here.

I thought they were being sarcastic.
I wonder if they hear those black helicopters circling over their house every night...

[Anarcho-Socialist]

17. They can be quite imaginative

That is one of the more wacky ones though.

[Mr Creosote]

13. Could well be

either them or Prince Philip and some lizards.

[Mr Creosote]

10. It's actually quite funny

the more people have guns, the less likely people are to get shot. Pity they didn't apply that logic to WMDs eh?

[beam me up scottie]

15. He's baaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1705773&mesg_id=1710593

[non sociopath skin]

18. Remember what your mammy told you...

DON'T FEED THE TROLL!!!

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

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[tjwmason]

19. I just love 'Quidnunc's logic

All police should be armed, because then they'll be used to their guns, and therefore accidents will be less frequent.

At the moment there are a number of specialist fire-arms officers - they effectively spend their entire careers working with their guns - they are the ones who shot Snr de Menezes.

If we were to arm all police officers (who don't want the damned guns anyway - not that this would bother Quidnunc), it is likely that each officer would touch their weapon (outside of training, of course) maybe once a year at the most.

Therefore (following his line of 'reason') a person who uses his weapon once a year is more safe than one who uses it constantly. :shrug:

Am I missing something of his argument - or is he totally bonkers?

Clearly a tragedy has occured, and I'm waiting for the outcome of the investigation before commenting further - but I am as certain as I can possibly be, that the U.K. is far safer by having guns in the hands ONLY of police who have that as their specific task, their entire time spent training with these weapons and (by virtue of their smaller number) far more time spent actually using them.

[non sociopath skin]

20. I think it's basically a case of the far-right limbering up ...

... to defend the indefensible when the IPCC report is published.

Whatever the outcome, it is not likely to be - pace Quidnunc - the finest hour of the give-the-slops-shooters lobby.

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[Taxloss]

22. Breaking: London police are "fascist genocidal maniacs"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1718275&mesg_id=1718285

To be on the safe side, I have already harboured a Brazilian family under the stairs. :eyes:

[lockdown]

23. Oh my god

Someone made an intemperate comment on an emotive issue on an anonymous political discussion board. Call the cops...

[Taxloss]

24. "Genocidal"? That's a bit more than "intemperate", I would say.