So Far, No One that Curtis ACCUSED has said he is a fraud !

[Shalom]

In the sworn affidavit provided by Clinton Curtis, he makes accusations against Rep. Tom Feeney, his previous employer Mrs. Yang, and in the process names several idividuals who can confirm or deny his affidavit specifically, including Mike Cohen, Hai Lin Nee, and Wayne Leaders.

To my mind, it is curious that to date NOT ONE of these individuals has stepped forward to contest or deny a single one of Mr. Curtis's allegations.

In light of the fact that NONE of the people that Mr. Curtis has ACCUSED and/or cited as witnesses have called him a fraud, it is curious that some of the most vociferous doubters of Mr. Curtis are people who believe George Bush stole the 2004 election.

This is even more surprising in light of the fact that no one else who is asserting that Bush stole the election has risked their life and criminal charges to do so, as Mr. Curtis has had the courage to do.

[alittlelark]

1. That is rather odd.. hadn't thought about it

Maybe someone should give them a ring....?

[NMDemDist2]

2. excellent point n/t

[SueZhope]

3. something new on BradBlog tonight

http://bradblogtoo.blogspot.com/

D.C. Ethics/Law Group Working with Curtis!

The BRAD BLOG has learned that a D.C. Ethics watchdog group has met with, and is now investigating the claims made by Clint Curtis in an affidavit that we released exclusively here yesterday.

[ddd3]

19. BradBlog answers many of these questions re: Curtis affadavit

MORE HERE:

http://bradblogtoo.blogspot.com/2004/12/response-to-bev-harris-questions-on.html
"I was concerned that folks might confuse Curtis' story with the broader picture Madsen was painting, and I have seen no supporting evidence to suggest that the two stories are in any way related. Not to say they aren't. I just have seen nothing to suggest they are..."

[RaulVB]

4. And did you notice Feeney's absolute silence? (n/t)

[Shalom]

6. You Mean "Teeny Weeny" Fuckface Feeney, the Retro Ronald Reagan Repig ?

[KittyWampus]

5. Big Fucking Deal. If GOP Wants To Set Disinformation Trap

They'd WANT to keep silent in order to get the ball rolling and allow Curis's bs to gain traction.

[Shalom]

7. Right: Every One Who Signs A Sworn Affadavit Is a Repig Plant

We're gonna make lots of progress this way: stop being so defensive; remember we have nothing to lose. BUSHITLER WILL BE CORONATED NEXT MONTH, AND YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT OUR "CREDIBILITY" ?

Looks like Rove has been successful in intimidating and emasculating Dems; how come the Swift Boat Slimers, who probably cost Kerry millions of votes, did not worry about "credibility"?

It's a a very assymetrical battle when the underdogs have to prove everything beyond a shadow of a doubt, and the people in control can lie with impunity.

[KittyWampus]

23. Hyperbole Much? Everyone? How About Some Guy With No Evidence

again, big fucking deal he has an affidavit.

Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof.

And it's interesting how a small core of posters here, who I've never read before, seem intent on legitimizing someone who has no INHERENT credibility.

[proudtobeadem]

8. I have a question

I saw somewhere on this site that the affidavit was submitted to the house judiciary (i think, or something like that), did that really happen? Is there a link? I'm not questioning anything, I just want to know if that really happened or did i dream it.

[Shalom]

14. Sounds Credible that It Has Been Given to House JC

...Judiciary Committee on 6 Dec 2004.

quoted, personal email from Brad Friedman:

"Haven't been able to get back on my site at all since it's been slammed.

As it eases up, I'll be able to post more follow to many questions I've seen.

The affidavit has been given (unscanned!) to the Dem Judiciary Comm."

Brad
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Brad Friedman
THE BRAD BLOG
http://www.BradBlog.com

==========================================
Peace.

"Did Bush Know?"

[lthuedk]

31. Send the affidavit to all moderate republicans, like McCain.

We need their support if we are to avoid bloodshed.

[The Backlash Cometh]

9. Do you suppose Feeney's silence can be due to his

need to contact the witnesses for bribes? Getting their stories straight?

[NVMojo]

10. he has a quitam filed, and numerous other public records

tied to this case or the employment part ...that have been out there for almost two years. What can they really say? I think this is funny.

[BlueDog2u]

11. I agree

And here's an implication: if Feeney does not sue Curtis, then that to my mind is proof positive that Curtis is telling the truth. Of course, it doesn't work in reverse. He could sue him and he would still be telling the truth. But it what Curtis has said is not substantially true, then how can Feeney, not to mention the principals of Yang, ignore it? I don't see how they can.

[Shalom]

12. Teeny Wienie Feeney Endorses the Fraud That Elected Him !!

Ya gotta love this criminal POS Fuckface Feeney, and his gall !!
(It would be nice if Dems spent as much time dissing this dangerous lunatic as they spend doubting Clinton Curtis)

http://www.house.gov/feeney/osentoped4-1-4.htm

Despite the few but vocal naysayers, who for partisan reasons are doing their best to portray the Sunshine State's voting technologies in a negative light, Florida has conducted a series of successful elections. With the exception of a few human-error problems, we experienced great success during the most recent election, and in 2002, when I along with hundreds of other politicians were elected on the very voting systems we are using today, without any equipment problems. I expect similar results, as well as increased voter participation and confidence, in August and November 2004.

[Starlight]

18. I can't disagree with what he's saying.

Despite the few but vocal naysayers, who for partisan reasons are doing their best to portray the Sunshine State's voting technologies in a negative light,

Notice he doesn't say that the "few vocal naysayers" were wrong, only that "they are doing their best to portray the Sunshine State's voting technologies in a negative light."

Florida has conducted a series of successful elections.

He doesn't say the elections were honest or fair, just "successful."

With the exception of a few human-error problems,

No explanation given for "a few human-error problems" but we could easily assume he means the "human-error problems" of clumsy cover ups that were/are being questioned.

we experienced great success during the most recent election, and in 2002, when I along with hundreds of other politicians were elected on the very voting systems we are using today, without any equipment problems. I expect similar results, as well as increased voter participation and confidence, in August and November 2004.

They successfully stole several elections. The voting machines got their politicians elected. Hundreds of them. The equipment worked according to plan. No problems.

[Name removed]

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[ibegurpard]

15. Come again?

You're not saying that you are or were Curtis's psychiatrist are you? And if not, how would you know about it? I call BS.

Or are you talking about Feeney?

[suka]

22. wait and see

Have you heard of CONFIDENTIALITY???? I shouldn't have said anything.

[The Backlash Cometh]

24. No, you shouldn't have.

[Shalom]

16. The Wash Post said Jeb Bush said Feeney was a Loose Cannon !

Shouldn't be hard to find....

Do you have any leads on this pyschopath's history ?

[IndyOp]

17. You have a point, and I find Curtis more convincing than Madsen if only

because Madsen's story contains sooooooo many more loosely connected ideas, people, and so forth. Also because when I sent Madsen an email asking him for references backing up a claim he made in an article he returned (in my opinion) crappy references.

I am open to believing both Curtis and Madsen. I still think we will do well to focus on the relatively less exiting analyses of precincts in Ohio with >3% ballot spoilage. Arnebeck files his case tomorrow with the Ohio State Supreme Court.

:eyes:

[ClintCooper2003]

20. Good point.

[Alizaryn]

21. The silence before the storm?

They have either been advised to stay mute and hope it blows away or are huddled in together with council memorizing the script they are going to follow.

[Oddly Stevenson]

25. No comment

I've noticed, in relation to allegations of voter fraud, that you're not hearing a lot from the usual suspects who would normally work fulltime to label anyone involved as a "left-wing nutjob." It seems to me that for the most part there's a concerted effort not to comment on any of these allegations in an effort to prevent the story from gaining any real traction.

[mattclearing]

26. They won't say anything to legitimize the fraud issue.

They think they can ignore it and the media will ignore it and nothing will ever come of it.

I am content to let them continue that strategy. It worked so well for Kerry with the Swiftboat Liars.

[Pacifist Patriot]

27. Not really. Failure to respond gives the impression of not

taking his accusations seriously. It leaves him hanging out on the fringe with the burden of proof that he isn't a lunatic.

[The Backlash Cometh]

34. That's not my experience.

Republicans are swift to respond. Every time. Why are they quiet now?

[Cocoa]

28. this kind of logic will impress some people

the same addled minds that believe the crap in the first place will find your reasoning convincing.

This is right up there with, "can you prove it's not true?"

[goldengreek]

29. It's that Calvinist streak in American culture.

If it's too easy then it can't be good for you. Even I'm not sure about this. Still, I'm keeping an open mind (while withholding comment).

You have made a good point though.

[mccoyn]

30. Its only been 2 days.

The MSM hasn't even taken up the story. Feeney has everything to lose by bringing this to the media whether he is completely innocent or not.

[understandinglife]

32. Raw Story: additional info on Curtis from interview with him...

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=482

‘Vote-rigging prototype could be used for optical scan machines’

By John Byrne | RAW STORY Editor

"The Florida programmer who alleged that a legislator commissioned him to write a vote-rigging prototype said Tuesday that his software could easily be used to change the totals of votes from optical scan readers as well." (more at the link)

Peace.

"Did Bush Know?"

[understandinglife]

33. Air America: Curtis interview available

http://airamericaradio.com/layout.asp?baseurl=Unfiltere...

Peace.

"Did Bush Know?"