SOMEONE(JOURNALIST?)SCREAMING: BUSH STOLE THE ELECTION MSNBC

[Karenca]

I dont know who that was, but he was a guest...I think a journalist It was just now on Scarborough Country, Pat Buchanan was speechless.
The journalist said "the party with all their damn religious, moral values---how moral is it to steal an election? Do you really believe Bush got all those votes? They stole them---the moved Kerry's votes to Bush----Bush Sr. was having lunch with Osama's brother on 9/11--Do you know that?---Every American should know that--lies, blah, blah, Diebold is a Republican-owned company, these reults are not valid--this isn't a democracy, lies, blah, blah, blah...
He went on and on with more, yelling and boy, he was pissed off.
This was great!

[Razorback_Democrat]

1. Tooo Coool!

Scarborough needs to be knocked down a notch!

[lizzieforkerry]

2. ooh boy! I wish I had seen it! Maybe I will start watching something

other than KO afterall!

[SueZhope]

3. holly molly

I would love to know who the guest was
and send them flowers& candy!!!!
maybe someone else saw it and can tell us who this MSM hero is.

[senseandsensibility]

4. Anybody know who it was?

Anybody? I'd to shake this person's hand, or at least send an e-mail to say thanks.:)

[Karenca]

5. hes on again!!! no computer loaded text too slow , sorry

he's off.....the computer took so long to load, sorry.

[KatieB]

6. His name is Michael Rectenwalk Founder of Citizens for a Legitimate Gov't

Tonight! Tuesday, December 7, 2004 CLG Founder and Chair, Michael Rectenwald, Ph.D., will appear on MSNBC's "Scarborough Country" at 10PM ET to discuss New Republic editor Peter Beinart's "An Argument for a New Liberalism: A Fighting Faith." (The show reairs at 3AM ET).

http://www.legitgov.org

[Eloriel]

10. Rechtenwald n/t

[dweller]

32. it's actually spelled Rectenwald

http://www.legitgov.org/charter.html

http://www.legitgov.org/index.html

Lori Price is a DU member, has been here for ...well, ever.

dp

[JoMama49]

14. Of course Scarborough and the Right-wing spinmeisters

will label this guy a left-wing whack job (kind of like they did Howard Dean) when he got excited and yelled. That's what they always do, and then the Sheeple will think he is discredited and pay no more attention to the content of his words!

[nofurylike]

33. he's been extremely courageous a long time. he doesn't need their

validation at all. they were lucky he'd try to reach them. their big loss if they don't hear him.

he speaks to and for us.



peace

[nashville_brook]

42. i think if the guests *aren't* obnoxious on Scarborough

they look foolish.

of all the Cheeto-heads MSNBC lined up during the elections, scarborough was the most down to earth. he's not nearly the fevered ego that chris matthews is. i disagree with everything he says, but he seems like the dork next door.

[nofurylike]

44. :) well said. n/t

[KoKo]

24. Somebody FINALLY YELLS THE TRUTH! Good for him! I don't think

he will be asked back...but at least he made the most of his minutes of air time! Boy...that makes me feel good. I would have given anything to have seen it, if it's the way the original poster described!

[Karenca]

26. It was..............

He really made use of the airtime--
SHOCK AND AWE!
Must have got alot of people thiking!

[Eloriel]

7. So who was it? n/t

[HeeBGBz]

8. Who's the hobag needing a brain transplant?

Kinda purty til she opened her mouth.

[klebean]

20. some right wing propaganda filmmaker

and really full of herself

[Pithy Cherub]

9. WOW!

:wow: Bet MSNBC was not expecting that! :wow:

[NVMojo]

17. on the MSM, no less!!! This is great! He spoke for all of us!

[lateo]

11. Will this replay or does anyone have the video?

:)

[Karenca]

23. 3 am eastern time nt

[AmerDem]

12. Does Scarsborough reair?

if so what time tonight eastern?

[Karenca]

15. 3:00 AM EST nt

[AmerDem]

18. Thanks, I suspect this happened at the end of his show?

I'de hate to watch more of the repuke asshole then I have too.

[IAMREALITY]

13. We are discussing it in this thread too. It sounds like it was great!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x125978

[Karenca]

19. It was, it really was great..I couldnt believe it, this guy just

went off on a wild rant, of course everything he said was 100% true,
but,
it was so unexpected, and so angry, it felt great to see and hear the feeling and the passion for his and our beliefs!
I loved it when he said "NO WAY 50% OF AMERICANS VOTED FOR *!!

[Kellis]

16. HA!OMG

Thanks for posting.MAN I would have loved to have seen it.

Was he credible?What was the response to his 'outburst'?LOL.This is *great*!!!!!

[renaissanceguy]

21. He's addressed EVERYTHING we've been saying on here

Yes, he's credible, IMHO. His organization has been working since the stolen 2000 election about voter/election fraud.

The RWers on the show just said he's out of touch with reality. But consider the source--RWers who believe the earth is flat, that humans were created as-is, and that the Bible today is the literal word of God.

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[Kellis]

29. I never watch Scarborough

Does he get very high ratings?I mean in any case this *is* MSM we're talking about-so ALOTTA people heard this!

I'll be damned.SOmeone got thru to the MSM and SAID IT LIKE IT IS.

We need to email this guy and let him know we saw him!

[rdmccur]

48. E-mail Scarborough

and tell him you want that guy back. Why not?
Just to rub it in if nothing else.

[Liberty Belle]

53. An extra coup, because the Reps watch this show

Big question: How did this guy ever make it past the screeners?

[Karenca]

56. I have no clue,...all i know is that it was the best thing Ive seen since

the election was stolen.
He just started to go off out of the blue, I couldnt type fast enough, I wanted to get it all in for everyone.
Dont forget, it re-airs 3:00AM Eastern Time.

[Karenca]

22. Yes he was credible....Buchanan was speechless!! :)) nt

[Kurovski]

25. From favorite quote post

"The onrush of a conquering force is like the bursting of pent-up waters into a chasm a thousand fathoms deep." - Sun Tzu

Tell Joe and MSNBC you want to see more like Rechtenwald


<[e-mail]>

[EFerrari]

104. We should all email and ASK for a transcript

it's the equivalent of kicking (lol, I think, as I'm too new to know what kicking means!)

But, they do pay attention to that kind of draw, or attention.

[proudtobeadem]

106. kicking is to write kick, or anything really to

"kick" the post back to the top of the list so people see it :)

[EFerrari]

107. 'tanks! n/t

[Straight Shooter]

27. Here's the email, let's thank the man :)

I'm pretty sure it's the the appropriate one from their web site:

[e-mail] (Michael Rechtenwald is a Ph.D. and founder of this organization.)

Does anyone have Scabbiebrow email, or a general email for MSNBC?
_________________________

My email to him:

Dear Mr. Rechtenwald:

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

I have just been reading on Democratic Underground about your spectacular performance on Scarborough Country.

Thank you for grabbing everyone by the short hairs and telling it like it is!

Regards,
(Straight Shooter)

[Karenca]

30. Great email. I will write him now too!!

Let's thank him!! :))

[rodeodance]

38. yes I will email also and tell them what a great guest was on the show:-)

[nofurylike]

39. subscribe and donate. great newsletter.

mailto:[e-mail]


peace!

[KaryninMiami]

60. You guys- CLG is a really terrific site- lots of great reporting!.

Sorry I missed Scarborough tonight. What a wonderfully exciting television moment! Watching Pat Buchanan and Joe Scarborough's faces must have been amazing. I smile with glee at the thought of it...

That's great that you wrote to Michael to thank him! I've been on the CLG mailing list for a long time. Do do visit their website and sign up for their newsletter and spread the word about them. This is one of those really dedicated, passionate grassroots groups who deeply care about what is going on and are committed to making sure that people know the truth. Sign up to get their newsletter and if you can, send them a check. They really could use the support! http://www.legitgov.org/

I'll definitely tape this show tonight and send a congrats note to Michael. This really is news to smile about!

[Kellis]

31. Thanks Straight Shooter

Im going to send him something similar.

WOOHOOOOOo!

Score one for the DEMS!DAYUM this makes me happy!!!

[SaveAmerica]

37. 'Scabbiebrow'

I'm only just learning all the nicknames and that has got to be the best I've heard so far, thanks for the laugh! Felt good to laugh out loud.

[Broken Acorn]

28. I'll Tivo it at 10PM PST

still only 8:15pm out on the Blue Coast

[Karenca]

34. 'YOU THINK YOU GOT MORE VOTES THAN US!!"

'YOU THINK WE'RE SHOULD ACCEPT WHAT YOUR PARTY (UNDER THE FALSE GUISE OF GOD AND MORALS) TELLS US!!! "
And he went on and on :))

Great!!!!!!

[Kellis]

36. LOL

Im not kidding-This makes me giddy with laughter-like we got one over on them or something.How the HELL did this guy make it onto "Scabbieborrough"!!!?

HA!I gotta see it.

[regularjoe]

35. I thanked him. n/t

[floridadem30]

40. kick

[ClintCooper2003]

41. It's good, but should have stayed focused.

We will sway more people to our side by being focused on how the election was stolen. I realize it's very complicated and covers multi-faceted issues and connections, but when we speak to the Repukes, we need to keep rattling off the same factual talking points about the election.

[nofurylike]

51. no. we should have the courage to shriek. now. just how many

black votes have to get burned before you raise your voice?

[ClintCooper2003]

89. The raising his voice part is fine, I'm simply suggesting that the...

way to get through to the Repukes is to stay on message with regard to THIS ELECTION. Not to try to "lump and dump" so much.

[nofurylike]

94. he was on message, from what i've read. and appropriately enraged. n/t

[BeHereNow]

43. FUCKING A!!!

Oh this post has made my day!
I would give ANYTHING to have seen that!
FINALLY!!!
Bet the brain dead are saying,
"Whut waz that? Whud he say?"
BWHAHAHAH!
bhn

[rodeodance]

45. Was Pat Buchann the host--I will email him if so.

[Karenca]

47. Yes, Buchanan was the host. Ill write him too/ nt

[BeHereNow]

54. Thanks for the info Karneca!

We need to send DU "Certificates of Merit" to
all parties responsible for this event!
bhn

[BeHereNow]

49. Dunno...

I did not see it, but I would have PAID to.
LOVED reading the accountment so generously
shared by the person who started this thread though!
Hopefully someone will post a video of it!
bhn

[Karenca]

46. also write joe scarborough and thank him for having MR

[e-mail]
My letter;
Dear Joe,
I would like to see you invite more guests like Rechtenwald
who stand up and refuse to take this election seriously.
I always turn the channel after Olbermann, because KO is the only reporter on MSNBC that has been fair and balanced regarding this fraudulent, stolen election.
I left the TV on your channel by accident, I was busy doing something else, when this brave and brilliant man caught my attention speaking the truth which is virtually non-existent in mainstream media.
Keep up the good work, and you just may get 60,000,00 new viewers!
Thank you,
xxxxx xxxxxxxxx

[Straight Shooter]

83. Thanx for the email addy. Of course, I had to write ol' Scabbiebrow, too.

Dear Mr. Scarborough:

If you've got the guts to keep featuring people like Dr. Rechtenwald, or at least invite him back on, then I commend you, sir. It's high time America had the opportunity to see a Progressive or a Democrat who doesn't sit back and lick their wounds. Maybe next time Dr. Rechtenwald will have the chance to go more in-depth with backup information for his assertions, but for now, it sure looks like he got everyone's attention.

That's television worth watching, buddy. Bring 'em on!

Regards,
(Straight Shooter)

[Lori Price CLG]

50. Hi, the show re-airs at 3AM EST!

It was Michael Rectenwald, Ph.D. He is the founder/chair of Citizens For Legitimate Government. Pls. join us! (We have been fighting the coup since 2000!)

Lori Price
Citizens For Legitimate Government
http://www.legitgov.org/

Receive the CLG Newsletter daily! Contact: [e-mail]

[nofurylike]

66. Lori Price, you're here. i wouldn't know of CLG if not for you. thanks! n/

[Kellis]

67. THANKS for the link

:toast:

[helderheid]

52. for a transcript, stay tuned!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3719710/

I didn't see it but am setting my VCR to record later! PLEASE someone who has the ability to put this online, DO! :)

(very familiar with CLG - Lori Price worked with many of us on the Kucinich campaign - sooooooooo excited to see this!!!!)

[tandem5]

55. transcript nothing... I want a clip! n/t

[Karenca]

59. 3.00 AM EASTERN TIME NT

[ailsagirl]

62. damn... I've already cancelled my cable...

Oh well!!

[tandem5]

63. yeah same here... no cable n/t

[proudtobeadem]

108. Me too!!

[buddysmellgood]

57. Okay, I didn't see it. But what you describe here does not help us.

It might feel good. It might vent a lot of what we are all feeling. I myself can barely contain myself when the rare opportunity to speak about these crimes surfaces. But if this person truly went on a rambling rant in a scream fashion, then he will come off as someone who can't cope. We need more Arnebeck, not hysteria. Hysteria does not convince.

[Karenca]

61. I think we should all scream, just like in the ukraine.

I think we're too damn quiet for a people whose Democracy has been stolen from us and the Death of America is what awaits our future.
I think we should scream---loudly, until people start to wake up and listen.

[nofurylike]

76. yes! "we're too damn quiet for a people whose..." well said, Karenca! n/t

[buddysmellgood]

90. I agree. I was afraid, from the first post, that this was not the place

for screaming. It sounds like it was.

[proudtobeadem]

109. Yes, someone has to be the first..

we have Arnebeck, Jackson, Coyers, KO to talk sense, what we need now is to wake everyone up about this -and for that we need to slam 'em over the head to get them out of their coma.

[Kellis]

64. yeah well sometimes

You take what you can get.Im sure that the Scabbies on the show weren't letting him talk very much if at all.

And we ARE damn angry.Sometimes you need to scream to get heard.

I know what you're saying but you know what?This is just the beginning.The FloodGates are gonna open up.And our voices will be heard.This story isn't going away and neither are we.There is a lot to be said for speaking up when you get the chance and thats exactly what he did.
"BRAVO" I say!

[buddysmellgood]

82. I take it you saw it. And if it's as you describe, that is excellent. The

original post didn't leave me with a good impression.

[Kellis]

91. ....aw c'mon

:spank:

don't diss it till ya' see it ok?Really.I think this is a good thing. I really do.

edit-and nope I haven't seen it yet!

[buddysmellgood]

93. Well, I'm just really worried. This is the second time. We were painted

as sore losers last time and we PROVED we won. We have the uphill battle.

[proudtobeadem]

110. Proving we won didn't get us anywhere

not even a fair election this time.
This time we have to make some real noise the way they did when they had the SCOTUS stop the recount.

[Karenca]

65. he wasn't hysterical -- He was forceful

and he was wonderful.

[Alizaryn]

68. Guess I am going to have to make myself stay up till 3:00

[proudtobeadem]

111. and get up by 10 for the hearing :)

[buddysmellgood]

87. Thank you for the clarification. I'm worried about these Madsen articles

and the bits and pieces we get from the MSM. We need to be taken seriously. I can go out tomorrow and find a dozen people in five minutes that don't know what happened in Ohio. And I live in a very liberal city.

[nofurylike]

73. and calm talk convinces them? no. they talk all over us all the time.

we need all degrees, from the Arnebecks to the Deans to the Rectenwalds to...

me.

we're just not taking the trampling any more.

how bad things have to be before you can let go?

[buddysmellgood]

79. You're right. There is a time and a place for what you describe, and

this sounds like it must have been the time and place. I just know from personal experience how hard it is to keep calm about this when you finally have the opportunity to talk.

[nofurylike]

96. i can relate to that! yes, in this case, conservative pundits

have gotten so spoiled just talking over - no, watch them, they have tantrums! - over any who don't kowtow...

this was heroic. we have needed to hear the passion we all feel, spoken so bravely. (it's why Dean so potently brought this country back to political life, in fact - we so desperately needed that shout).

go to the demo's on sunday, and we'll hear it, and be it, there too. extremely healing!


peace!

[buddysmellgood]

97. At the last rally, I wore an Uncle Sam costume sporting a black eye.

This time, I'm going to wear a Paul Revere costume and shout "The Diebolds are coming! The Diebolds are coming!"
and maybe "One if by blackbox, two if by chad!"

[nofurylike]

103. that's great! be great if the news got a shot of you! :)) n/t

[buddysmellgood]

88. If it was a response to the typical bullshit shoutdown, more power to him.

[alittlelark]

118. It may not help YOU

but it is getting the story IN THEIR FACES. Hysteria does not compute.

[Scout1071]

58. thanks for the heads-up

I just set the DVR and will watch before I head to work in the morn.

[Pastiche423]

69. Is this him?

[Lori Price CLG]

70. Yes. n/t

[Straight Shooter]

78. Well, if that's Dr. Rechtenwald, all I have to say is ...

Hubba Hubba!!

:evilgrin:

[Kellis]

84. LOL

Now Now girls-Lets not fawn all over the activist and scare him away.lol!!

I can't wait to see him.Hope I can saty awake long enough to.

[Doremus]

81. I went to school with some Rechtenwalds...

wonder if they're related? Maybe I'll look them up and ask. :)

Finally, SOMEONE with some cujones!!!!

[Karenca]

71. that certainly looks like him

looks just like him......
but I've got a really lousy short-term visual memory, But it DOES look like him, best to my recollection!

[Carolab]

77. Wow

cute, progressive and gutsy. Great combination.

[bunny planet]

72. I saw the intro for the show while I was watching KO, it was an

evangelical guy whose first name was Ole, not sure of last name. I think Joe Scarborough has a blog, perhaps he wrote about it there.

[Karenca]

74. No, he was NO EVANGICAL guy

He is Mike Rechtenwald (sp??)
A PROGRESSIVE!

[bunny planet]

75. just thought it might have been the guy on the lead in, didn't watch.

Wish I had.:)

[Karenca]

80. If you can, its repeated at 3:00am eastern time :)) nt

[flyarm]

85. dang!!!!!!!!!!!!

i had it on and listened to the beginning, and i wanted to throw my shoe through the tv..so i turned off the volume to listen to malloy!! and i misssssssed it!! dang!!!!!!!!!!!..fly

[dmac]

99. suggestion

I finally came up with this when I realized I couldn't watch * on TV without wanting to throw things. I keep a laundry basket of those socks whose mates disappear into nowhere and roll them and throw them at the TV whenever the urge strikes. It really is a harmless release and they are fast to clean up. }(

[nofurylike]

101. smart! i'm doing it, right now. thanks! n/t

[nofurylike]

86. thank you for this exhilarating info and thread, Karenca - and all!! n/t

[Karenca]

92. thanks all --- :0)) --- nt

[senegal1]

95. If someone can post it for folks without tv, I would love to see it

[nofurylike]

98. to you!! :))

:toast:


peace!

[Hobbes199]

100. Hot damn!

[Kellis]

102. ohhhh god....

Im so sleepy I don't know if I can stay awake unitl 3.......

[texpatriot2004]

105. Here's what I sent Scarborough

I am writing to thank you so much for having Mr. Rechtenwald on your show tonight. He spoke out tonight and he spoke out for me and for my family and friends. God bless him for doing so. He was very brave to speak out and I admire this daring act. I also admire his conviction, his passion, and his candor. I would like to hear more of what he has to say. If he had more time he could give us detailed information, you know, his reasons for saying the election was stolen. I would love to hear them FROM HIM! A true Progressive thinker, a Democrat that is worthy of airtime. I hope that you will be as brave as Mr. Rechtenwald was and have him back on the show ASAP. Thanks so much for your consideration of this request.

[proudtobeadem]

112. I wouldn't be surprised if they cut that part out for the replay

[Cyclical]

115. Nope, it was there!!

The man's passion was palpable. He practically had tears in his eyes. Every time Buchanan ran-on his sentences and interrupted, it was so clear to see him restraining the explosion.

That was definitely the most fulfilling bit of television I have ever seen.

Now, I DO wish they'd edited out that horrible twat with the joker's grin. Her mouth looked big enough to smuggle refugees in - not that a Repug would use a big mouth like that for anything but lying.

[vanboggie]

113. WAY TO GO MIKE!

Mike Rectenwald has devoted a good portion of his life over the past few years to fighting the Coup(s). He is a true patriot and has continued the fight for democracy through thick and thin and at much personal sacrifice.

Thank you Mike for your continued efforts to make this a better world and get the truth out!

[Carolab]

114. And there they go again with the overamped "Dean scream"

I wish Rechtenwald had set them straight on that overamplified version of the speech. In the real setting no one could hear him over the roar of the crowd. We should write to them and demand that they stop showing that copy. The real videotape is on the Internet and they can use that if they insist on showing that particular speech.

If I were Dean I'd sue the bastards for showing myself in a "false light". In fact, I think I'll just voice that particular sentiment right now.

Plus, they are sickening in beating up on Michael Moore and questioning whether or not "we should dump him". Do we sit around and discuss whom THEY should dump? Like, oh, maybe RUSH LIMBAUGH or O'REILLY?

What collossal nerve.

[Cyclical]

116. Colossal nerve indeed

I love the fact that they are calling MM "unpatriotic" and "offensive" because he TOLD THE TRUTH.

Hee... I just had a funny thought...

The MSM don't like Moore because MICHAEL MOORE'S GOT GUTS.

(Double entendre! Oho!) :)

And yeah, speaking of dumps, how's about they dump Anne Coulter and The Governator (he's not even a real politician anyway).

[vanboggie]

117. Write to Scarborough and MSNBC

I just sent an email off to (puke) Scarborough at [e-mail] and to [e-mail] them for having our voices on the air via Mike Rectenwald and requesting that they have him back on Scarborough or any other MSNBC show. I told them I would like to hear what he has to say without some loud-mouth Right wing woman trying to drown him out.

[lateo]

119. Did anyone get the video of this?

[Karenca]

120. RECHTENWALD WANTS TO GO BACK ON MSNBC TO DEMAND UKRAINE-LIKE REVOTE

Subject: Re: thank you for telling the truth on scarborough!!
Date: 12/8/2004 12:20:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: [e-mail]
Reply To:
To: [e-mail]
CC: [e-mail]




Thanks, Karen! Please write MSNBC and ask them to have me again. I will go
even further, and demand a Ukraine-like revote!

Cheers,
Mike.

> Dear Mr. Rechtenwald:
>
> Thank you,!!!!!!!
>
> I have just been watching your wonderful performance on msnbc.
> All our concerns, everything that has been on our minds, but have no
> way
> to make public what so urgently needs to be addressed---well, Mr.
> Rechtenwald---you have done this for us!
> Thank you for speaking the truth about this stolen election, and about
> the
> BUSH/BIN LADEN Connection.....You are stupendous!
>
> Karen Campanale
>

[emcguffie]

121. I can't believe I had just turned it off!

Honestly, I got disgusted with Buchanan and turned it off. Too soon!