Will C-Span rebroadcast the hearings? Is there a text-based transcript?

[Wordie]

I've searched, but can't find anything. Has anyone else had more success? (My computer is old and not up to video.)

[BrklynLiberal]

1. Go to www.cspan.org

You can click on a link and listen to it.

[Wordie]

2. I'm afraid I need text-based. Thanks though.

[Kota]

3. I need text based to. Cspan usually reruns everything.

I really want to see or read it for myself.

[katinmn]

4. a colleague called C-Span. No transcripts.

The committee may have transcripts in a few days after transcribing all those hours of tape. The whole thing needs to be published in the Congressional Record.

[Wordie]

6. Will it work differently though, because it wasn't an official hearing?

If you recall, the Repubs wouldn't hold a hearing, so the gathering this morning was called a "meeting" instead. I wonder if it was so unofficial that they won't even publish a transcript? I surely hope not!

[katinmn]

9. I thought I heard them say it would be published

[For PaisAn]

5. From 6 pm tonite to 7 am tomorrow listed as TBA

So maybe they'll replay it? Who knows when though during those 13 hours.

[Wordie]

8. C-Span already has it in their archives and is charging $39.95 for it.

Here's the link:
http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp?command=dprogram&record=135179543

Should we start an email blitz to try to get C-Span to re-air it tonight??? Does it work that way? I imagine the Intelligence Bill debate would take precedence.

[splat]

7. Can somebody transcribe it from TV to send to MSM?

They need written copy to write anything about it.

Somebody must have good steno skills and could use the video link on c-span.org to produce a text file.

Somebody?

[Wordie]

10. Excellent idea! But an awful lot of work for somebody. Its 3 hours long.nt

[katinmn]

12. They do it ALL the time! n/t

[MarkusQ]

22. See post #18 (n/t)

[Gregorian]

11. Transcripts are on a website.

Towards the end of the hearing, Conyers stated that the entire hearing transcript would be on a website. I don't remember exactly, but it was a Senate or House website. And it includes questions and answers that were taken after the Cspan cameras were turned off.

[Wordie]

13. You may be thinking about the Judiciary Democratic Forum site

I think that is Conyers', but it doesn't have the full transcripts, although it does have several statements of the participants. Here's the link, if you are interested:
http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/voteforum.html

[alittlelark]

14. Randi said it will be re-broadcast at 10pm EST

[Wordie]

15. Thank you!!!! I'll check for it, and try to record it! n/t

[Scout1071]

16. I'm not a professional transcriber

But I did record on my DVR and I've got some mad typing skills. I'll see about getting some highlights transcribed later tonight if nobody has come up with a transcript website yet. I'm a team player and want to do my part to save our country!

[MarkusQ]

18. Are you familiar with Groklaw.net?

They way they do it over there is divide the thing up, and a bunch of people each take a piece. Then they trade peices, proof read, and stitch them together.

• Who all has it on tape & would be willing to help? (I'll try to tape the re-broadcast.) Or is there anyone with a tape and the ability to MPEG it?
  
• Any idea how to break it up? By time? By "events" (e.g. start of public questions, JJ's testimony, etc.)? Or some other way?
  

--MarkusQ

[Zookeeper]

19. I'd be happy to help transcribe...

just PM me if help is needed.

[Wordie]

23. I didn't take you up on this earlier, because I don't have a copy, but if

I manage to record it when it re-airs early Thursday morning (supposed to be on at 4 something AM EST on C-Span2), then I might take you up on this idea. I think its a good one, because surely people need a text copy of such an important hearing (or forum).

[Scout1071]

27. Here's some of Cliff

I got home late from work, and just started on Cliff. Gotta tell you, not so easy bleary-eyed.

I'll check out the website, but so far:

“Mr. Watts referred to Afghanistan as an example – sending donkeys out to get the vote in Afghanistan – I think the most pertinent analogy to our situation is the election in the Ukraine.

They had exit polls showing one candidate win and the same situation in Ohio. Their candidate who lost – apparently – by an improper election was in the fight, as were the entire people of that nation. The best precedent for the future is to establish – firmly – on the part of the federal govt. and the state govt. that we will not tolerate Fraud – fraudulent manipulations of our elections. And we will not move on until we find out what the fraud was and we correct it. Reverend Jackson has been using the sports analogy and I think it really pertains. We have an election, which unquestionably involved many, many fouls – open conspicuous conspiracies against the civil rights of black Americans. There’s no one with an honest view of this situation can dispute this…. The lines of the black percents were 2-3-4 times as long as those in the suburbs. Some say, “gee, that’s just kind of an accident, “ but when you see that kind of an event, you better believe someone intended that. Now, why was that intended? Because somebody doesn’t like black Americans? No. It’s because black Americans have this propensity – this statistical propinquity to vote 9 time out of 10 in support of a democratic candidate. So if you are on the republican side – and as a partisan – you are trying to affect the vote, if you can suppress the black vote, you are going to help your candidate in that race. Congress woman Jackson Lee referred to Iraq and this impending date, Jan 30 in which Iraq is supposed to have a democratic election. How can we with a straight face go to Iraq and say we are going to sponsor and help you have a fair election and establish a democracy when we have this record of a corrupt election in our own country. We have to clean it up and we have to clean it up now.

What was the lesson in Florida? The lesson in Florida was the election was certified. That the election was certified, the election was officially made and a President inaugurated before they counted the votes. And it was the News media that insisted that there must be an accurate vote count. So after that official process took place, the news media got all the votes and counted them. And guess what? Al Gore got more votes than George Bush.

[Scout1071]

29. I'm bumpin'

this beeyotch up and going back to transcribe some more.

[Scout1071]

31. Here's cliff in full.....

All I can do for tonight and it's rough, but here it is:

“Mr. Watts referred to Afghanistan as an example – sending donkeys out to get the vote in Afghanistan – I think the most pertinent analogy to our situation is the election in the Ukraine.

They had exit polls showing one candidate win and the same situation in Ohio. Their candidate who lost – apparently – by an improper election was in the fight, as were the entire people of that nation. The best precedent for the future is to establish – firmly – on the part of the federal govt. and the state govt. that we will not tolerate Fraud – fraudulent manipulations of our elections. And we will not move on until we find out what the fraud was and we correct it. Reverend Jackson has been using the sports analogy and I think it really pertains. We have an election, which unquestionably involved many, many fouls – open conspicuous conspiracies against the civil rights of black Americans. There’s no one with an honest view of this situation can dispute this…. The lines of the black percents were 2-3-4 times as long as those in the suburbs. Some say, “gee, that’s just kind of an accident, “ but when you see that kind of an event, you better believe someone intended that. Now, why was that intended? Because somebody doesn’t like black Americans? No. It’s because black Americans have this propensity – this statistical propinquity to vote 9 time out of 10 in support of a democratic candidate. So if you are on the republican side – and as a partisan – you are trying to affect the vote, if you can suppress the black vote, you are going to help your candidate in that race. Congress woman Jackson Lee referred to Iraq and this impending date, Jan 30 in which Iraq is supposed to have a democratic election. How can we with a straight face go to Iraq and say we are going to sponsor and help you have a fair election and establish a democracy when we have this record of a corrupt election in our own country. We have to clean it up and we have to clean it up now.

What was the lesson in Florida? The lesson in Florida was the election was certified. That the election was certified, the election was officially made and a President inaugurated before they counted the votes. And it was the News media that insisted that there must be an accurate vote count. So after that official process took place, the news media got all the votes and counted them. And guess what? Al Gore got more votes than George Bush in the 2000 election. So when people say, “never again, never again – what happened in the 2000 election should happen”, what I think they mean by that is that we should never again certify and inaugurate a candidate until we’ve established they got the most votes! I’d be happy to conclude if you would like to conclude if you would like to proceed Mr. Chairman.”

Conyers: “Thank you, thank you very much. Let’s thank Cliff Arneback, Esquire for joining us this morning. Thank you for your testimony Mr. Arneback.”

Cliff: “Mr. Chairman, Mr. Chairman, Reverend Jackson has asked me to make one other point if you don’t mind. There were two categories of fraud in the Ohio election. The first was the open and conspicuous fraud that I spoke about that Ralph Nead so eloquently addressed. The second was the hidden fraud. That can only be disclosed by careful investigation. And it’s this fraud that when you look at the statistical analysis of the vote in Ohio, you see these anomalies, these statistical anomalies that can only be explained by forms of computer manipulation that would not be conspicuous to elections officials that are a direct attack on the integrity of the election process and we have considerable evidence that that’s what took place. And that’s what explains some of the things that Reverend Jackson was talking about, candidates down the ticket performing more strongly and even getting more votes than the candidate at the top of the ticket and their own party. Thank you.”

[Scout1071]

32. FULL CLIFF TEXT ABOVE

IT'S ROUGH...BUT IT'S THERE (AS ACCURATE AS CAN BE AFTER 2 GLASSES OF WINE)

[Scout1071]

35. Regarding the Cliff text

i thought more people would want to see? Allright, going to give it some time before more transcribing.

[Wordie]

33. It is so wonderful that you have done this! Thank you!!!! n/t

[Scout1071]

34. Just doing what I can

If I didn't have to work early and my boss wasn't flying into meet me in the morn, I would transcribe much more. If they (C-Span) don't provide transcript, I'll plug away again when I can.

KEEP ON ROCKIN' IN A FREE WORLD!

[JudyM]

36. Thanks, Scout - really appreciate this! nt

[Wordie]

40. Scout...please post your work on Demopedia! Have you gotten an acct? nt

[Scout1071]

41. Wordie

I haven't gotten an account yet. Been working a ton of hours this week, so been hard to keep up. I'm gonna check out the latest news, then I'll look into getting an account.

Holla back if you need me to record and transcribe anything else. I'd be happy to help in anyway that I can. After all, what's a little time spent transcribing if it might help save the world?!?!?

[Roger_Otip]

42. have put it on demopedia page "Election Fraud/Ohio"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/demopedia/index.php/Election_Fraud/Ohio#Cliff_Arnebeck.27s_statement

[Wordie]

43. Would it be ok with you if I try to post it on there for you? With credit,

of course. Also, I didn't mean for my idea to sound like a demand on your time, although I can see how it must have seemed that way. You've already done a lot! I just got too enthusiastic, I think. Please forgive.

[Scout1071]

44. Of course you can

Please feel free. I did try to edit today, but it would not allow me. I noticed the word "precinct" was misspelled, but don't remember where. Anyway, like I said...I was very tired and had had 2 glasses of wine, so someone will need to double-check, Although i do believe it's quite accurate.

And I didn't feel insulted or otherwise. I'm more than happy to help. I'm more irritated I'm working more hours than I'd like and I can't help more! I'd much rather be doing this than work!

[Wordie]

20. Terrific!!! That's great. We need a transcript, imho. n/t

[Griffy]

17. Stream it!! Watch it.. we are not alone!

I am listening to it now.. from www.cspan.org

under House Forum on Ohio election Voting Procedures

... "this election is NOT over" -Jesse Jackson

[Wordie]

21. It will re-air tonight (tomorrow AM) on C-Span2 at 4:23AM EST (estimate)

I believe that with C-Span the times aren't always exact. Here is the link to the schedule if anyone wants it:
http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/fullschedule.csp

Maybe we should email to ask that they add it to their weekend schedule?

[tommcintyre]

25. New time listed - 06:50 am WTF! Why all these different times!

Three so far. :eyes:

06:50 am
2:58 (est.)
Forum
Voting Irregularities in Ohio
U.S. House of Representatives, Conyers, J. (D-MI)
John Conyers Jr., D-MI
Eleanor Smeal , Feminist Majority Foundation

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/fullschedule.csp

[BlueStateBlue]

24. C-Span rebroadcasting at 6:11am EST 12/9 on C-Span 2

According to their online schedule

[MarkusQ]

38. I may have caught it--I left a tape in over night...(n/t)

[MarkusQ]

39. No luck so far (n/t)

[ccarter84]

26. reposting link in case others missed

another poster has it posted earlier
http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/voteforum.html is the best we have for now, so far it just has opening statements I think...and in pdf files

[Coltrane]

28. Crooksandliars has a Video Highlight

http://www.crooksandliars.com/ has a 35 minute highlight of the Conyers day from C-SPan.

[shiina]

30. link to audio

Audio is available from Pacifica Radio

http://www.pacifica.org/programs/election2004/20041208-OhioVoterControversySpecial.html

[newyawker99]

37. Hi shiina!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast: