Conyers needs emails now! SEND TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!

[roguevalley]

Got this from Mark Crispian Miller:

SEND TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!


John Conyers is trying to collect a couple million emails on the voting investigation..

He has set up a special form for you to ask questions of the committee..

Please send off an email with a question for the Democratic members of the Judiciary Committee Hearing on the Ohio Vote.

Click below and take a moment to write your opinions of the 2004 Presidential vote.

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/contact.html

[xultar]

1. This should get +100 posts like the anti-DLC threads. If it does not

then I'll know what people consider as a priority.

They'd rather fight with each other than fight the power that is suppressing voter rights.

[roguevalley]

2. Nothing counts more than focusing our resources and energy on

this initiative. I hope people do this. Conyers is sticking his neck out a mile.

[Doug Decker]

116. Done n/t

[understandinglife]

179. Agree: and documents from the "forum" are now available..

...at:

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/voteforum.html

Peace.

"When Did Bush Know?"

[xultar]

51. kick

[Cheswick2.0]

78. when you finally get it you are going to be so glad some of us

kept chipping away at the DLC. They are not us. We can't fight amoung us with people who are not part of "us". The DLC would love for this issue of voter rights to disapear. They think you are nuts and a pain in the ass for continuing to talk about or post about it.
They aren't on the same side of any of the issues you care about.

[AntiFascist]

168. Whem Middle America begins to dissolve away....

and those with power, influence and money are the only ones left to survive then you will understand what is motivating them.

[Laurab]

172. Oops

I signed it yesterday, but didn't post - I'm a newbie!

[Karmadillo]

3. Anyone having trouble with the link?

n/t

[xultar]

5. I didn't. It may be getting a lot of hits from DU right now. YEA! n/t

60. conyer's e-mails

Yes. Filled out form and opinion, tried to send it but it wouldn't go. Went through entire process a second time, same result. will try one more time, for now.

[DianeK]

97. i have a t-1 line...

and it took a while for my to completely send..please be patient, i think they are just getting an extraordinary amount of hits right now

[Laurab]

174. Took forever...

I have DSL/broadband - I left the room after about 5 minutes, took the dogs out, came back in, and it still took awhile after that - I have no patience, normally, but I waited and finally it showed that it had been received. Be patient - getting a lot of traffic is a good thing.

[newyawker99]

194. Hi rwarsager!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[dobegrrrl]

122. trouble with link

won't upload - perhaps too much traffic - I hope.

[IndyPriest]

4. Rogue, I don't get this. Didn't we do this yesterday?

Lots of us filled out this questionaire and submitted questions for Wednesday's forum. Is Conyers now using the same form for something else?

[SnoopDog]

6. I sent this about a hour ago...

I sent this letter to the House Judiciary Committee….

Not my best work – I am so pissed at the whole thing…

<begin>
Thank you for the 2004 Election Fraud meeting today. I learned a lot. The most startling fact I heard was that, in the 2000 election, Al Gore actually had more votes than Bush in Florida. Would this not indicate that we have an invalid president running our country?

To think that this could happen again with this 2004 election is inexcusable. Every report of voter and election irregularities favors Bush. You have a Republican Secretary of State who went out of his way to favor the Republican voters while systematically suppressing the Democratic voters. They have voting machines that purposely have no paper trail and made by a company who vowed to deliver the vote to Bush. Then, leveraging the Ohio Revised Statutes, waited till the absolute last day to certify the vote.

We cannot wait to ‘fix’ this next year or the year after. We would forever be in an endless loop of ‘oh, they stole the election again – we’ll get them next time’. No, please, set your foot down now and investigate ‘this’ election.

Our founding fathers were very smart – they provided three branches of government that provides ‘checks and balances’ to prevent atrocities. The ‘not so often mentioned’ forth check and balance is the vote of the citizenship. How on earth are we to remove a renegade elected official (including the President) if we cannot vote them out? What happens if, through fraudulent elections, an operative of some foreign country gets elected as our president? And what happens if he wants to drop some nuclear bombs somewhere? Or how about if the renegade president implements massive changes to our economy and social structures that our country is forever bankrupt?

I urge you to, please for the sake of our nation, investigate this election and schedule an official hearing into this matter and withhold the electoral vote until all votes have been properly counted in Ohio.


<End letter>


One of the most important points today was when one of the House Reps (I am sorry to say I did not get his name) said that this needs to be kicked (my words). What this means to me is that we need to push for a Judiciary Hearing.

So, send a letter!

[rodeodance]

10. this looks like a generic form --what is so special about it. It does not

even mention the hearing or anything about the election.

[SnoopDog]

12. Lets see your letter..... n/t

[Wordie]

30. It looks like it may be Conyers' regular form for constituent concerns n/t

[SnoopDog]

31. And.... Lets see your letter..... (this musta struck a nerve) n/t

[floridadem30]

132. I wrote a letter and tried to send but it won't go. Have another link?

[BR_Parkway]

45. It goes to the committee, so the RePugs will notice the numbers

also, more pressure on them to do something. Another smart move in this whole play.

[IndyOp]

18. SnoopDog - Great letter!

I knew that Gore won Florida, but only because my friend repeated it over and over and over before I *finally* believed that he had won the state.

I think this is an *incredibly* important point -- if Dems understood that 2000 was stolen from us (and that it included computer vote hacking! - see Chapter 13 on blackboxvoting.org) -- they might finally understand why we have to stand up for our right NOW!

:headbang:

[SnoopDog]

22. Thanks Indy...

I remember reading some of your posts - coming from you this is a compliment!

[Pacifist Patriot]

88. I thought I was done, but I'm getting a blank white screen

and an hourglass that won't clear. Guess I'll risk a duplicate.

[mulethree]

137. Judiciary chairman is Sensenbrenner

The chairman is incredibly busy at the moment, trying to get a national ID card system in place, deport all the illegal aliens and prevent abuses of the asylum laws.

Maybe if you told him "The elections system is SO screwed up, we're afraid undocumented aliens with wimpy drivers licenses were actually casting votes!"

I get the impression that he would oppose any guest worker program Bush might propose.

[BlueDog2u]

7. Done/Sample

Dear Congressman Conyers:

I write to congratulate you, your staff, and the other members of the House Judiciary Committee, for holding hearsings into the widespread and growing allegations of election fraud and voter suppression in the 2004 election cycle. As you are aware, the current voting technology in our nation is a scandal. Faith-based voting is not a legitimate moral option for a free Democratic Society. Widely available statistical evidence, including national evidence of "glitches" in Touchscreen Voting Systems, in which 86 out of 92 cases caused votes to be switched from the voter's intent to cast a ballot to Senator Kerry and instead registered for the incumbent (with only one definite case of the contrary pattern), and results which are difficult if not impossible to reconcile with the evidence of exit polls, make it increasingly clear that the potential liabilities of our existing technology may have actually been exploited for fraudulent purposes in this 2004 election. The suppression of poor, urban, and African American voters in this election cycle, through various dirty tricks which have been well documented, is also a scandal and cannot be tolerated in a free society. We need strict Federal laws prohibiting elections officials from misusing their power for partisan purposes, and then we need to enforce those laws.

Polls show that the dissatisfaction with this state of affairs is widespread and growing: as many as 20% of surveyed voters distrust the results of the 2004 election. I join my fellow citizens in calling on your office to persevere in conducting the investigation begun today into this crisis situation in our American Democracy. Your colleagues from the Republican side of the aisle should be ashamed of themselves for placing their partisanship above the requirements of a fair, open, fraud-free, and accountable election process. Please prevail upon them to join your inquiry or else face the wrath of the voting public in 2006 for abandoning our Democracy and our constitution.

Thank you and God Bless You for all that you have done.

Sincerely,

[eowyn_of_rohan]

75. Very good letter, Bludog.

Time to write my own but feeling kind of fuzzy-brained this morning

[Vote4Kerry]

8. Thanks!!! Kick! n/t

[dalloway]

9. just sent my email

I thanked them for their leadership on this issue and said that I hoped they would be joined eventually by their Republican counterparts so they can subpoena the exit poll data.

I'm a newbie but willing to jump into action.

[CitySky]

95. good work, newbie dalloway

& welome to DU! :hi:

[VTGold]

11. Done! n/t

[roguevalley]

14. I don't know what was done yesterday, honey. I got this from

Mark Crispian Miller, the Bush Dyslexicon author. He is usually ahead of the wave so I posted it. I sent one for each of my parents too. That is three. :) Thank you and keep trying. Tell EVERYONE.

[Kellis]

25. Done~Kick!

dalloway & VTGold Welcome to DU :toast:

[Imalittleteapot]

13. kick

[Gloria]

15. DONE....with passion!!!

eom

[caligirl]

16. just sent mine. asking for Oh. Electoral votes not to be accepted.n/t

[meganmonkey]

17. Done and KICK!

[understandinglife]

19. Done: by email and Fax

Had posted my core comments earlier today at DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x127636#127660

and received some encouraging responses.

So, I decided to make my next of several attempts to assure Senator Kerry that he has a dedicated and large group of citizens both aware of the scale of the threat to our franchise of democracy and fully committed to defend it.

So, when Congressman Conyers' "forum" was complete I sent a letter to Senator Kerry. I then embedded that letter into a letter to Congressman Conyers, thanking him for his courageous leadership and requesting that he speak with Senator Kerry.

Here is the text of that fax (also sent by email and webform) to Congressman Conyers.

If even a sentence of any of this is useful to any of you, I have zero pride of authorship -- cut/paste/use.

Peace.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The Honorable John Conyers, Jr
2426 Rayburn Building
Washington, DC 20515
[phone] Fax – Total of 3 pages

8 December 2004

Dear Congressman Conyers,

I am very proud and grateful that you are a representative of the people.

You proved, once again today, that you are among the few who have the courage to attempt to defend our franchise of democracy from an insidious, persistent and, if we don't stop them now, successful overthrow of our Constitution.

We must stand together and stop them, now. I have included a letter I sent to Senator Kerry earlier today by Fax and I plead with you to go to Senator Kerry and urge him to recognize that we cannot wait; that tomorrow dawns on a totalitarian "USA," if today we do not stop those who threaten our American franchise of Democracy.

Together, we shall prevail.

Bob

"Did Bush Know?"

++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Honorable Senator John F. Kerry
US Senate
BY FAX: [phone] & 617.248-3870

8 December 2004

Dear Senator Kerry,

I am enclosing a message I sent to a few close allies in our effort to prevent the American franchise of Democracy from being destroyed; the fate it now faces if you do not act.

Senator Kerry, as a continuation of the analogy in my correspondence to you of 30 November 2004, the bull-pen is not where you belong. It has been quite appropriate for you to have been in that bull-pen, warming up for the past 5 weeks, but we are in the bottom of ninth inning, the bases are loaded and if you don’t come into the game and out the next batter, it’s over.

I waited to send this to you until the historic Conyers’ “forum” completed:

_______________________________________________
In a few hours, a transition of awareness will occur throughout our Nation and the world.

Suddenly, an exchange of thoughts, facts, analysis, activism and considerable passion shared among a few of our fellow citizens will become a topic with large-scale public awareness.

When NBC and MSNBC indicated they would be covering Rep Conyers' "forum" it's obvious that those who watch c-span and pacifica radio are going to be joined by many, many more of their fellow citizens as well as a world-wide audience. I doubt that by tomorrow at 10am EST, CNN and the other broadcast networks will fail to appear at the Rayburn building.

What they will all learn is that our Nation faces a massive Constitutional crisis and that 'horse isn't going back into the barn.'

Not since Jefferson Davis gave his good-bye speech to the US Senate has this Nation faced what it will confront tomorrow.

I hope Senator Kerry and Senator Edwards have been preparing since long before 2 Nov 2004 for what will now unwind.

I hope many others have been preparing themselves for the roles they will have to contribute to the saving of our franchise of democracy.

As the editors, W. Leon Smith and Don M. Fisher, of the Lone Star Iconoclast stated as well as it will ever need to be:

"The time is now to draw a line in the sand -- to give not one inch, one millimeter, one vote toward the cause of skewing this election. This recount, no matter the outcome, conducted properly, is a necessity for democracy to prevail. Without it, America can never trust another election."

We are at war, a war declared by President Bush, and we have witnessed a major attack on the cornerstone of our Constitutional rights as citizens by members of President Bush's party, perhaps with the knowledge of the President.

That same Constitution has cold, harsh comment on any effort to undermine our Nation during a war. Mr Bush and his colleagues face serious consequences if we the people act on our responsibilities to that Constitution draw that line in the sand, and budge not one inch until the systematic disenfranchisement of our fellow citizens is remedied.

We have but hours before our Nation and the world is brought to full attention to the Constitutional crisis of 2 Nov 2004.
I'm prepared to do whatever is required to restore and protect our Constitution.

Peace.
__________________________________

Senator Kerry we need you to lead all of us as we fight to save our Democracy. If you don’t we may still succeed but the task will be all the much harder. But, the battle is now, not sometime in the future.

In your service,
xxxxxxxxx

[DancingBear]

20. Done - with pleasure! n/t

[Clark2008]

21. Sent one last night

But posting to kick it...

:kick:

[distantearlywarning]

23. I just sent mine discussing statistical irregularities

and partisanship among "election officials". I am going to forward this to the fiance so he can write one too. Let's keep this thread kicked!

[Old and In the Way]

24. Done and sent to my mailing list.....

an easy way to make our voices heard.

[smartvoter]

26. Done.

[Bill of Rights]

27. Here's what I wrote

I have been closely following the election irregularities story. I have read so many outrageous things that my head is no longer spinning. The latest one, I heard today. Republican election officials, in Shelby, Ohio, "threw away" all-important documentation. Such action is against the law. I feel there has been corruption in the highest degree, and that it might have started during the 2000 election. Also, it's an abomination that the developer of voting software is a convicted felon, who is barred from ever working with money again! Please, please, please do all the investigations necessary. We must ferret out the rascals. We must have a representative government, otherwise we have a dictatorship.

[mary195149]

28. done n/t

[senegal1]

34. done -- here's mine

I'm delighted that the minority members of the House Judiciary have brought to light the voting fraud in Ohio. However this issue can not be left to rest in the backroom bookshelves of history. The minority members must press, filibuster, insist, and demand a full hearing by the entire House Judiciary. It is the right of all Americans to have a voting system that works! In addition, I ask that all politicians regardless of their political party refuse the Ohio electors if the legally criminal acts which took place in Ohio are not prosecuted in the most expedient manner. I also ask that if these criminal acts are not investigated and prosecuted that Ohio's representation in Congress be reduced as a punishment and as provided for in the Constitution of our Nation.

Sign me,

One Patriotic American

[AlwaysDemocrat]

29. Done! (n/t)

[peabody71]

32. Done!

[3smos]

33. Done!

[BeFree]

35. Done.

Those guys made me proud. Let's hope they get more support, eh?

[jhgatiss]

36. I might recommend something else too...

As was pointed out in the hearing, there certainly were a LACK of Republicans at the hearing. If you are unfortunate enough, as I am, to have a Republican representative to Congress, then you should write to them to chide them for their inattendance at this key hearing. As Congressman Conyers noted, ALL Republicans were invited. Also, if you happen to live in a Democratic Congressional district and you representative either did not attend todays hearing or did not sign onto the letter requesting a GAO investigation, then you should write to them and tell them to get onboard. With the Republicans in the majority, the only way that pressure is going to come for OFFICIAL hearings and action is by pressure on the majority.

[JudyM]

42. Links to your members of Congress - for convenience

Great idea, jhgatiss!

http://www.senate.gov/

http://www.house.gov/

[jhgatiss]

43. I emailed mine to tell her to sign onto the GAO letter...

of course she didn't.

I emailed her today to shame her for not showing up when so much of what was talked about dealt directly with her district here in central Ohio. I told her that if the hearings hit the road that I expect her to be here.

[JudyM]

189. Kick! nt

[4democracy]

83. We should e-mail Chairman Sensenbrenner,the address is

[e-mail]. He is supposed to be a fair man and perhaps will listen to respectful, factual e-mails. If he gets involved, the other Republicans will have to go along.

[Pacifist Patriot]

86. I'm in that boat and this is what I sent ..

Yesterday, Rep. John Conyers chaired a congressional forum in which verifiable evidence of vote suppression and compelling indications of vote manipulation in Ohio were detailed by panels of witnesses. I would like to know why republican representatives chose not to attend this important forum.

C-SPAN and several radio stations carried the forum live. Concurrently, mainstream media covered stories with far less relevance such as Scott Peterson, Martha Stewart and Michael Jackson. While I remain baffled by the media silence, I am incredibly disappointed by the republican absence in this critical moment in American democracy. This may well be the least partisan yet most important issue facing our nation today. We cease to function as a representative republic when we cannot guarantee that the will of the people has been upheld.

I urge you to participate fully in the investigations into the 2004 election and the process to reform our voting systems. I consider it your duty to help protect and defend the integrity of our votes. Please enable us to retain faith in our democratic process, a true patriot would do no less.

[ocean girl]

37. Done and kicked!

[JudyM]

38. Done. KEEP KICKED! nt

[Griffy]

39. done n/t

[skids]

40. done

Message: Members of the House Judiciary Committee: The election of 2004 has raised more than a few, more than several, in fact many serious questions as to the integrity of our election system.

These questions are not limited to problems with process and institutions, they are not limited to serious doubts as to whether elections officials performed with competance, they are not limited even to the deplorable practice of voter suppression and disenfranchisement, in fact they include questions of malfeasance and outright fraud that demand immediate and consequential criminal investigations.

These questions are not limited to individual precincts, they are not limited to Ohio, nor even the "battleground states," in fact even the nationwide popular plurality is in doubt.

These questions are not limited to the presidential race, in fact there are serious questions raised about many races further down on the ticket. They are not limited to the election of 2004, as evidence is surfacing that prior elections may have been compromised.

This is not acceptable. I personally will not consent to be governed by a system that cannot guarantee me that the will of the electorate, when choosing representation, is not only respected but fully and accurately determined. Without my consent, and that of my fellow citizens, the viability and the legitimacy of the Federal Government of the United States of America ceases to exist, and any institution thereafter attached to that government will become an interloper, a foreign entity on the soil of the American people, which we are bound by those very principles that originally unified 13 former colonies of the nation of Great Britain to expunge, entirely, from our presence by any means.

Fix it now, before there is widespread backlash against the system, or I fear, based on the level of animosity I observe among my fellow citizens, that we may as a nation be headed towards some level of civil strife. How long a remedy to this crisis is delayed, and the failure of the Federal Government of the United States of America to address not only future concerns, but those of the past, will likely be the most direct determinant of the level of unrest.

There is no time to waste, and no partisan hay to be made when the electorate questions the legitimacy of the government.

All the people of this land share in the fight for freedom worldwide, but the simple truth of the matter is that this domestic affair represents a greater threat to the future well being of the United States of America than any terrorist attack. A breakdown of civil order internally would prevent an effective effort abroad to secure peace for our citizens, those of our allies, and those struggling against despots in other lands.

Sincerely,

Brian S. Julin BSEE/CSE

[yazsir]

41. kick

[cyn2]

44. kick

[Hamoth]

46. Questions I have that we might ask

Let's add all our questions here and vet them for better coordination of our message and priorities. Whatcha say?

Here's some of the questions that came to my mind:

1. What is the criminal domain for prosecution of the manipulation by any party of a federal election? Who has jurisdiction over such cases? How could a charge of obstruction or treason be pursued? Is there a good source for legal understanding of our various courses of action with regard to prosecuting people who work to obscure the will of the people?

2. The constitutional article cited by one of your angry questioners appears to have been a counter-fraud balance in the US constitution. If such a rule has fallen by the way side due to antiquity, how should we amend the balance that was intended and remedy our lack of viable recourse?

3. Have you all read Betrayal of America by Vincet Bugliosi? It's the definitive work on the election of 2000 and contains an extensive review of the decision of Bush V. Gore. Many of the comments by members of the Congress have betrayed a fundamental ignorance of the sinister nature of that decision. One example is that many considered openly citing it as a precedent, despite the fact that the wording of the decision clearly states that the court will not consider arguments that cite the Bush V. Gore decision as a precedent "...due to the highly individual nature of these disputes..."

4. Why have we had to investigate and call attention to this ourselves without any real leadership in the matter? You confess to being tardy in addressing this matter, possibly 8 years tardy, can anyone explain to the concerned citizenry why this has come to pass?

5. Is there an official national database of known malfunctions in voting technology such as the infamous "glitches" that recorded straight Democratic ticket votes as Liberarian ones? If so, could it be promoted for examination and evaluation? IF not, then how should we expect to trust an election wherein any error may be "discovered" only to descend into a shroud of secrecy. All recorded machine problems, tabulation errors, counting errors, and glitches, need to be recorded and made publicly available.

6. If such records are available, then how does this affect the margin of error in the election? A few thousand miscounts her and there may reveal that the variation between two candidates falls within the margin of error for the machinery counting the votes. Such a circumstance would clearly call the result of said contest into question.

7. If such records of machine errors are available to what degree do these irregularities favor one candidate over the other? Can an analysis be performed to evaluate the probability of the distribution of the errors favoring one candidate over another?

8. Would such statistical evidence be deemed acceptable evidence of criminal activity to compel a court to grant a motion of discovery?

9. What prosecuting attorneys might be interested in further examining our cases against certifying the vote?

10. Elections equipment without paper trails are clearly violations of several state constitutions. Why has this not been legally contested?

11. Why was there no press conference when majority leader Bill Frist, after first being investigated by the FBI for computer offenses, sent a bill designed to prevent computer offenses, into committee and in so doing guaranteeing a hotly contested election result?

12. Does the committee agree that technology beyond the comprehension of the average voter is a way to remove the voters from being able to analyze the facts in election disputes? These voters are left to trust whatever partisan experts are produced by the competing powers.

13. Could the committee actively enlist the aid of their supporters and local activists to fight for the right to a national election holiday? There is certainly massive Grass roots support for such an idea should it ever emerge in the national dialog.

14. To whom should proposed remedies for our scandalous elections system be submitted, and in what state of preparedness would these need to be assembled? I personally have dozens of different ideas for fraud-proof systems of voting that could be implimented nationally. I also have general suggestions that could significantly improve many existing ideas and standards.

[DARE to HOPE]

157. These are EXCELLENT QUESTIONS!!

The fight has really just started in earnest. But the lack of jurisdiction is a key question. It is difficult to know WHERE to discuss these except by Constitutional scholars in ivy covered offices.

I am sure that Congressman Conyers will pass these to the many folks he is in touch with. I would also send them to Kerry and the DNC, and to our own Congressmembers and Senators. As the questioner yesterday showed, we MUST scour the Constitution and ALL legal precident to find a way to catch these slippery crooks.

BTW--Zogby has called for a blue ribbon committee for statisticians. We need a similiar blue ribbon effort for these legal questions. Talk about a need to care for Homeland security!

Finally--YES! The deviation between exit polls and tabulated vote IS actionable evidence of election fraud, which I am hoping that Arnebeck's case in Ohio ends up proving.

[Stephanie]

47. I am sure this request has passed its expiration date.

Conyers asked for questions early in the week. I doubt that he wants them now, after the forum is over. We should verify this request before we flood the inbox of our best ally.

I have gone through my mail from MCM and I don't see this one, so it is definitely not recent, i.e. it didn't go out yesterday.

[catcatcat]

48. here's my letter -- any constructive criticism...

...before i send it off to Conyers' site and the republican
members of the Judiciary committee?

To The House Judiciary Committee of the 108th U.S. Congress:

First, i would like to thank you, Mr. Conyers, and your Democratic colleagues and patriotic associates for having the courage to rise-up and break the eerie silence that has been heretofore enshrouding the nascent problems eating away at the confidence in the truth of our democracy. I applaud you all, and encourage you to continue your efforts unceasingly until this disease is eradicated and our nation is fully healed.

I urge you to make rapid progress in creating constitutional recognition and protection of the right of every citizen to vote, and i wish you speed in enacting legislation that will standardize and reform the voting process at the national level. Both of these objectives are vital if we are all to ever be able to have faith that ours' is a truly fair and representative democracy. Further, in creating this new system, i hope that you will see the necessity of giving your laws teeth -- any willful violation should be treated with appropriate severity, any negligent violation should be intolerable, and in no case should a violation be permitted to result in the disenfranchisement of even a single voter.

As for the matter of the current election, congress must not accept the seating of another unelected president. What kind of fools would we be if we lowered our voices now only to, again, discover shortly after the inauguration that the oath of office had been illegitimately taken? I know that you, Mr. Conyers and your honorable Democratic colleagues, understand the gravity of this issue. So, i cry out instead to your honorable Republican colleagues: this issue is not Democratic, Republican, Green, Libertarian, Peace and Freedom, Constitution, or that of any other political affiliation -- it is *American*. If you truly love your country and want the noble office of the president of the United States of America to be treated domestically and internationally with the dignity and respect it rightfully deserves, you *must* act now with the full force of the power with which your office has been entrusted to ensure that the legitimacy of this and every future election is plain for all to see. If you believe that the challenges currently being raised are unfounded, it is your duty to step forward and prove your case to the satisfaction of every reasonable citizen. Ignoring our valid questions will not make them go away, it will only serve to increase our suspicion and outrage. Further, if you wish to make the burden of your office lighter in the future, you must act now to ensure that the expression of the will of the people is unquestionably and truly reflected by the outcome of every subsequent election. Talk to your Democratic colleagues, I believe, together, you can find the way to make this happen.

Finally -- i heard, Mr. Conyers, that you are seeking questions that people wish to have addressed at subsequent hearings. First, i would like to know the answers to all of the questions you posed in your letters to Mr. Blackwell and Mr. Mitofsky. As both of these men seem reluctant to cooperate in your search for the truth, you must bring your Republican colleagues to your side and use the power of your office to subpoena their testimony. Additionally, i would like to hear from other witnesses whose testimony may shed further light on what transpired on and in the run-up to November 2, 2004 -- my list would include: the people directly involved in the decision and action to 'lockdown' the Warren County vote count; the individual who claimed the 'lockdown' followed from a recommendation by the FBI; a representative of the FBI capable of testifying as to the veracity of that claim; representatives from the companies whose voting equipment malfunctioned on election night capable of explaining what, precisely led to each malfunction; where human error was responsible for an election night or vote count oddity, the people directly responsible for and/or capable of explaining the underlying reason for the problem and what, if any, corrective action was taken. Further, i would especially like to hear some answers as to exactly why the voting machine distribution was so suspiciously skewed. Finally, i think it is incredibly important every voting machine running a proprietary software program in Ohio be impounded, the source code used to create each such program be subpoenaed from the company responsible for its creation, experts be brought in to analyze both the machines and the source code and testify as to the presence of any bugs or malicious code found to be present, and representatives from the companies responsible for creating any problematic hardware or software be brought in to answer for their products.

While i'm sure that in the space of this letter i must have overlooked something important, i trust in the diligence of you and your colleagues and know that every substantive issue will eventually be addressed. So, for now, i'll just express my deeply felt gratitude for your service and my best wishes for your success as you undertake the great work that lies ahead of you.

Sincerely,
xxxxxx

[catcatcat]

93. okay, then...it's been sent!

:)
:kick:

[SheepyMcSheepster]

49. done kick!

[thanatonautos]

50. My reply

Dear Representative Conyers:

I have the highest respect for your service, and recall with the greatest
appreciation your comments in Michael Moore's documentary, on the question
whether Congressmen in general had read the Patriot Act, or indeed any
legislation, in full.

My question is probably not particularly original. I know you supported the
HAVA, and I applaud you for what you intended, therewith.

However, a severe error has been made, in my opinion.

It seems to me you have expressed the opinion, in connection with this
legislation, that electronic voting is intrinisically superior to paper
voting.

I believe that this is a false idea. Paper mark-sense ballots, counted on a
precinct basis, by non-partisan workers, paid completely independently of the
result of the election, no matter what happens, and observed by members of all
interested parties, most likely offer the best solution that human beings are
capable of at the present time. Note that I am no technophobe. It's just that
in some areas, I feel that computers offer no great advantage, and that they
allow considerable problems to enter into the mix.

The disadvantages with computer systems that offer no verifiable paper trail
must be obvious. We were all far better off if the count were a bit slower,
but the paper trail were intrinsic.

So my question is: Who can assure me, beyond question, that the vote totals in
South Florida are in fact correct, and have not been manipulated?

Sincerely Yours,

David Kahana

[Flying Dream Blues]

52. Done!! Keep it kicked!

Everyone please do this, it only takes a few minutes!

[AmerDem]

53. done

Thanks for the link:toast:

[AverageJoe]

54. Done! n/t

[mod mom]

55. done and passed on.

[mac56]

56. done

:kick:

[noclonyofthechimp]

57. DONE! AND KICKED. It's a little slow which probably means it is

getting a ton of hits!

[SmokingJacket]

58. Will do, thanks!

[VTHoosierPatriot]

59. Sent...

[Stephanie]

61. HELLO! Can anyone verify that Conyers actually wants this?

I think it is a day late, at the least. What was the date of this request, roguevalley?

[AmerDem]

69. I'm not sure of the date but

It really doesn't hurt to email Conyers. The public showing a greater interest in voting fraud after his hearing would only help the case. Flooding(a term you use)his email box with ideas and positive feedback isn't a bad thing. Hell what are we paying these people for?

[Stephanie]

74. I guess. The first post just makes me wonder -

Did Conyers really say he wants a million emails? I'm dubious. And I'm afraid we'll overwhelm his staff and risk alienating them. Anyway I have written to MCM to verify.

I guess it doesn't hurt to respond to Conyers based on yesterday's hearing. But I would like to know if the "million emails" request is actually true before everybody starts sending it out to all their friends and it becomes one of those Snopes sort of fiascos.

[AmerDem]

80. I think maybe you are taking this too much to heart

I understand fully where you are coming from about the so called "million e-mails" thing. Perhaps someone can chime in at some point but I don't see why you are so concerned with his staff being overwhelmed or flooding his email. This is democracy at work. We have a right and a duty to contribute to the system especially with situations involving the very thing our country is suppose to be founded on, fair voting. Our tax dollars paid for this system, it's our system to use at our convenience and I think his staff are compensated nicely for performing their job.

[Stephanie]

82. Okay, fire away

But I am still going to attempt to verify the first post. I see what you mean as far as sending Conyers our feedback. But I would like to know if he actually requested a million emails. They are two different things. Will report back if I learn anything.

[AmerDem]

92. Kudos

:toast:

[Stephanie]

120. So Mark says he got this from P. Glass at Table Talk

But he doesn't seem to know when. If any TT'ers know anything please do tell. Not that it matters so much but I am still curious.

[FloridaCrat]

118. He may need 1M before the Repugs pay attention -

At the hearing Conyers stated that there was no interest on the part of any of the repugs on the judiciary committee. Notice these emails aren't going to the Judiciary committee directly - rather through the minority leader Conyers. smart move. They probably don't have any credibility with the repugs yet.

[Window]

62. Happily done.

.

[The Flaming Red Head]

63. Verifiable mail is like verifiable votes.

Let’s send a post card or letter, too.

Let's leave a paper trail.

[Paradise]

64. done for members in my household and passed along to others.

thanks for getting this to us, rv!

[StephanieMarie]

65. Here's my letter:

We can audit our personal taxes, we can audit our corporations, why can't we audit our vote???? "We the People" need a trustworthy national voting system that can stand up to any kind of audit. And we need it now!

[jasmineblue]

66. Done!

[Catherine Vincent]

67. Done!

Thank you Conyers!

p.s. It took a while for it to go thru, I wonder if it's because they are getting a lot of emails?:-)

[Cheswick2.0]

68. My message was to ask them if they had enough humility

to listen to the real experts who were not them.. but people like Bev (if she can stop her avarice from getting in the way)Hedda, the guy from MIT etc...

[StephanieMarie]

70. Here's another one

I sent in my mother's name:

The voter suppression in OH was unconscionable treason against our nation. You must investigate and prosecute. 2006 will be too late. We will NOT tolerate another stolen election. WHY do we have partisan officials "trusted" with counting our votes?

[Diane L]

71. Sent My Letter To Conyers....n/t

[myomy]

72. Need more emails.

Just sent mine

[berni_mccoy]

73. Here's my email to them:

"I am dismayed by the mounting number of cases of blatant voter disenfranchisement and extremely unusual voting irregularities that overwhelmingly favored the winning candidate. What is worse is that it is getting little-to-no attention by the media and by members of our government (excluding the Internet bloggers and yourselves). This 'hear-no-evil, speak-no-evil' attitude indicates to me that there is a real reason to be concerned.

The problems in this election seem to dwarf those in the 2000 Presidential election. In 2000, Vice President Gore asked members of the Senate to NOT support an election contest. My claim, and my request to you and to all the Democratic Senators, is that it was NOT Gore's choice and it is certainly not Senator Kerry's choice this year. You must stand up for the millions of Americans who are being cheated out of a fair election. By NOT standing up, Gore allowed this to happen again. You MUST act to stop it now.

I am ready to act as well, and that isn't something that I take lightly. I have been working in my spare time collecting data on irregularities and and eye-witness accounts of fraudulent activity and I am willing to come to D.C. to protest the inauguration. If we don't act, our democracy will be forever changed, and millions of people will likely stop voting with the belief that their vote really doesn't matter. I don't want this to happen, and I certainly don't believe you want this to happen either."

[Botany]

76. Done!

:kick:

The media is running from this story. Liberal media my ass!

[Razorback_Democrat]

77. Done-here's mine

Issues: civil, election, voting
Other Issue:

Message: I am very concerned about the 2004 election. I first became concerned when hearing about the long lines in Columbus, Ohio, with people being given Provisional ballots to fill out to get them out of there. Then without even having the chance to count them, Mr. Kerry conceded. I was particularly offended when he had said "every vote will be counted", but he was obviously giving up before they were. Since that time I have been very involved in internet research on voting irregularities, and theories of outright fraud. I am appalled that the mainstream media, often labeled "liberal' by the right, has yet to seriously cover voting problems. I am outraged that Blackwell took 34 days to certify the Ohio election leaving little time to recount, and then said there were "no problems". I have read of a lot of problems in Ohio. I have read of problems in Florida. I think that there are problems with private companies making the voting machines and the fact that they all seem to be run by Republicans, very partisan ones at that. The Triad Governmental Services company run by Dwayne Rapp, who is a major Republican donor and Bush supporter, supplied 43 counties in Ohio with punch card voting equipment and supplies. Now we find out that as many as 93,000 of those votes were "spoiled". And it seems that the spoilage rate is worse in poorer areas than anywhere else. ES&S systems has connections to Chuck Hagel, a Republican Senator. This company makes Optical scan voting systems and there have been allegations and suspicions there. There have been articles before and after the election about the "hackability" of the GEMS central tabulators for Diebold systems. There are statisticians who say the odds of machines making mistakes that favor Bush 99% of the time over Kerry are impossible. There are reports of programmers hired to "fix" the election. There is a sworn affidavit from a programmer, who worked at Yeng inc. in Florida, with Tom Feeney , a Republican congressman from Florida, that says Mr. Feeney asked him to develop a prototype program for vote stealing, and discussed ways to suppress votes! There is a lawsuit in Ohio to ask them to throw out the election based on the statistical impossibility of Bush having won that state. There is a recount being done on behalf of the Green and Libertarian parties, now endorsed by Kerry/Edwards as well. There are fraud audits being conducted by blackboxvoting.org in Florida. So, I would say that there is so much out there that it boggles the mind. 30,000 complaints logged by one agency that was set up to take voting complaints. I'm mad as hell about this!

[lakeguy]

79. Done

[slor]

81. Done with great pride! n/t

[morffin]

84. NOTHING

Visited the web sites of most major " Liberal Media " orgs......not a word about this ANYWHERE. Three Govt. inverstigations into the election and not a peep about it from the media.

But I did learn a lot if important stuff on my web trek.....Folgers is raising the price on their coffee ( one of the top Yahoo news stories )

Another witnes in the Scott Peterson trial..........dont fret America...... the Peterson trial is almost over but we have the Robert Blake trial on deck for ya!

Some heavy metal guitarist was killed on stage by a madman

Dick Clark ( who knew he was still alive? ) had a stroke

Martha Stewart is still in jail ( but not Kenny Boy )

How long can they sit on this story?

[Hamoth]

109. Dimebag is not SOME heavy metal guitarist.

Have some respect for a creative genius who was brutally murdered. First people feel a need to murder my music, then my favorite musicians.

Not today please.

[skids]

185. Seconded. Respect. Walk. Miss you already, Dimebag.

Dimebag is an icon and a sire to his genre. This is to us hard metal fans as if it were to happen to Pete Townsend for a classic rocker, Jello Biafra for a punk rocker, KRS-1 for a rap addict, Sinead O'Conner for the... well I don't know what to call them... or Paula Abdul for people with no taste at all.

Respect. Walk.

[morffin]

203. Sorry if I offended

Didnt mean to offend anyone with my post. I'm not a big R n R fan and had no idea who the guy was.

[Taming the Shrub]

85. Done!

[PinkPantherChick]

87. Okay, it is done and I sent the URL to everyone in my address book

I watched the hearing on Cspan yesterday and I am willing to do anything to get my voice out there. Thanks for sending this link. :hi:

[newyawker99]

195. Hi PinkPantherChick!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[sojourner]

89. Found the link to Conyers elsewhere last night

and sent my email congratulating him for taking on this issue. I do also wonder about whether a million emails is necessary at this stage of the game, BUT our support and feedback are certainly ours to give to any government representative, so I don't actually see harm coming of it.

[Straight Shooter]

90. Done. FWIW, my brief letter:

Dear Representative Conyers:

I am fortunate to live in Oregon, a state wherein I can feel confident that my vote was counted. However, I watched the December 8 hearing and was absolutely appalled by what I heard concerning what happened in Ohio.

I lived at one time in the South. Let me assure you, the issue of the GOP's racist agenda in election tampering is no small issue with me, nor should it be across America. I am disgusted that these actions are being carried out by the party of "moral values." They can take their "moral values" and dump them in the sewer where they belong. I have American values. Suppression, intimidation and racism have no place in American values.

Thank you, sir, and your colleagues, for your diligence in at least attempting to bring justice to those people in those places where justice seems nowhere to be found.

Regards,
(Straight Shooter)

[GreenPartyVoter]

91. Tried 3 times in Avant. Froze every time.

[CitySky]

94. my metaphor

"The fact that many reasonable people throughout the country have grave doubts about the legitimacy of U.S. election results is setting off bells. Whether that sound turns out to be our wake-up call or the death knell of representative democracy in America will depend on the actions taken in the House and Senate..."

That's a snip of my letter. Thanks for posting the link!

I noticed it posted without paragraph breaks though -- less effective, IMO. Do you have to know html to get paragraph breaks in there?

[klook]

96. My letter

The 2004 presidential election was obviously flawed. Many of the same problems that have thousands of people protesting in Ukrainian streets plagued our own polling places. We urgently need a fair, supervised recount of Ohio ballots.

We also need, in the longer term,

1. an auditable paper trail for all electronic voting machines;
   
2. tested and fully functional voting equipment in ALL precincts;
   
3. a federal law prohibiting a state's secretary of state or election supervisor from simultaneously working on a candidate's election campaign while supervising an election;
   
4. prosecution of those who have wrongfully removed voters from the voting rolls; and
   
5. strict laws explicitly protecting all voters from intimidation or deliberate misinformation, or from selective screening of groups of voters by race, district, gender, age, political affiliation, or any other discriminatory criterion.
   

Signed,
xxxxxx xxxxxx

But wait a minute, the laws referenced last point already exist, don't they???

[Lydia Leftcoast]

98. Here's my message:

"Thank you for investigating the conduct of the 2004 election. Although I live in a state that uses paper ballots, there were still some odd problems with the optical scanners in a couple of districts. Having taken just one computer programming course twenty years ago, I can think of three different algorithms for cheating in an election. People who think that privately-owned voting machines that record the votes only electronically should decide our political future need to ask themselves one question: "Would you trust a bank that didn't give you paper receipts for your ATM deposits?" The only reason to have voting machines instead of pen and paper ballots is the desire of the media for instant results. I would rather use paper ballots, as most other countries do, and wait three days for final results that I can trust instead of getting instant results that were tweaked by agents of one party or the other."

[wryter2000]

99. Can't get through

Not responding. Wah!

[McCamy Taylor]

100. sent

I also attached a suggestion that they ask AGs in blue non battle ground states to see if there is any exit poll/ vote tally discrepancy to suggest that there may have been electronic manipulation of the total vote to give W. a nationwide false total vote majority so that the press would not demand recounts in Ohio and Florida. I have a suspicion that this occured, that it may have occured in all 50 states and if it did this is how Rove will be caught. Just as Tom Delay has gotten in trouble in Austin, Texas due to the presence of a Democratic District Attorney, the GOP could be in deep doo doo in a blue state if a Democratic Attorney General could prove that someone cooked the vote in his/her state to benefit W.

[alittlelark]

101. sent , and link sent to 8 people.

[keepthemhonest]

102. does anyone have Kerry's email address

because I am at work i don't want to use my office email. i would rather send it from my personal mail and I want to copy and paste it to that mail >thanks

[catcatcat]

104. he only has form mail listed on his .gov page, but...

you may want to try: [e-mail]
as those senators who do give their address
seem to have addresses in the form:
[e-mail]

hope that works!

[keepthemhonest]

107. perfect thanks catcatcat

this is the second time you bailed me out i think.:hi:

I am emailing Kerry to tell him that if he let's this fraud thing slide that he is enabling the perpetraitors.Also, sending him the same questions and comments that I sent in to Conyers and the Judiciary committee.

[catcatcat]

108. no problem -- glad that i can be helpfull...

...e-mailing Kerry sounds like a good idea, i just may
follow your lead. i'm also planning on sending a copy
of my Conyers e-mail on to my rep and senators with a
few comments. i already blasted copies of it to the
republican judiciary members -- i may have gone a bit
overboard with that effort (they'll probably just be
irritated at receiving messages from a non-constituent),
but what the heck...their actions affect me too.

well, good luck with getting your letter through. see
you around. :hi:

[keepthemhonest]

110. good for you and good for us that you are working so dilligently

on these letters. The other night I called all of the republicans on the judiciary committee and left messages(did not get voice mail for 6 of them though) and yeah I don't care whether or not I am in their distric or not. I have been meaning to send them emails as well, so I will copy that letter to them as well, today.

Thanks Again, I hope I can help you out in the future.:thumbsup:

[catcatcat]

114. good job!! we'll tell them who they work for...

:)

and you're welcome, and you have *already* helped me
out -- your comments have made my day much brighter.

to, hopefully, make your effort to blast the republicans
a bit easier, here's the list of addresses i used in
my e-mails (since most of them use form mail, i made-up
most of these by following what seemed to be the
standard format...i haven't received any bounces, yet...):

[e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail],
[e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail]

best of luck to you!! :bounce:

[keepthemhonest]

126. that was a huge help

and so far I did not get an error message back on the BIG list.
I thought I was giong to be doing that all afternoon. Thanks and I'll see you at the next time we have a task.:yourock:

I think we need to start a thread and keep it kicked that has all the resources like the one that you just made. with all of the emailing that we are having to do lately I think it would make things more efficient.

[catcatcat]

131. happy to hear it!!! i like your resource consolidation post idea...

...i'm not sure whether i've got enough posts to start
a thread yet, but i'd be glad to help put one together.

[keepthemhonest]

135. just posted it

so hopefully the other computer oriented people like yourself will add to it and then we'll just keep it kicked(if it works.)

No messages back yet on the emails so I am assumming it worked this time.


We can do this.:hippie:

[catcatcat]

138. yay!!! ...

... :yourock: too!!!!

[keepthemhonest]

113. I just got an error message when I sent it

did anyone else get that one to work?

[catcatcat]

119. i sent an e-mail to Kerry at the address i posted...

...and, though it has only been a few minutes,
it hasn't bounced back to me. what kind of
error message did you get?

[keepthemhonest]

121. delivery status notification failure

I just went ahead and sent it from my work email, but I would rather keep those things separate. I just put my personal email address in their form. Thanks for you help.I hope I don't have trouble with all the Judiciary Repukes.

[catcatcat]

124. no problem -- sorry it didn't work out...

...i still haven't gotten any bounces yet, but,
of course, that doesn't mean i won't. i do know
that at least one of them got through, though i
don't know if it'll be read -- i received this
auto-reply from Steve King (who only had form
mail):

Thank you for your recent email message. I appreciate your taking the
time to share your views and concerns with me.


You are receiving this reply because your address is either not registered
in the 5th Congressional district of Iowa or your address information was
not included in your email. If you are a constituent of the 5th district
of Iowa, and you did not include your mailing address in your e-mail
message, PLEASE RE-SEND YOUR ORIGINAL MESSAGE and include your full
mailing address including street address, city, state and zip code in your
reply. If you included your mailing address in the initial message, we
will be responding as soon as possible.

<SNIP -- etc, etc, blah, blah, blah>

good luck to you!

[McCamy Taylor]

117. done, here's what i sent

From what I heard yesterday on CSPAN, I am under the impression that the federal courts will only consider a challenge to Kenneth Blackwell’s certification of the Ohio vote if it comes from you. I do not understand why you do not ask for a recount prior to certification.

The alternative will be for suspect electoral votes to be sent to Congress, where they will be objected to by a number of Democratic Representatives and at least one, probably several Democratic Senators, causing a political crisis unlike any that we have seen in my lifetime (and I am pretty old).

Now, if you are of the school that believes that Tea Parties are good for democracies, then keep doing what you are doing. If you like government to proceed in a more orderly fashion, I suggest that you throw your support into the effort to count the vote.

[atldem]

103. done

[HEAVYHEART]

105. DONE! Bump! Kick!!

[mopinko]

106. my e-mail

sent to conyers, durbin and schakowsy
i need a current e-mail for obama.

hello sen. durbin,
this is an e-mail that i sent to rep. john conyers regarding his forum on vote fraud in ohio. i ask that you join him in rejecting the ohio electors.
****
thank you for your efforts to expose the scope of vote fraud in the 2004 election, particularly in ohio. please disregard the idea that 80% of the public is happy with the election. this only reflects the utter failure of today's corporate media to report the truth about anything, but especially the misdeeds of the bush regime. when the truth is revealed, as it will be, which side of the truth do you want to be on? what does the democratic party have to loose? nothing. PLEASE STAND UP!!! your duty is clear. reject the ohio electors. no more stolen elections.
thank you.

[keepthemhonest]

111. good point about the 80% thing,I thought polls were useless

anyway, that is what repuke say , right.

Here is a letter that I sent to kerry and similar one to conyers, now I'll sen it to the Judiciary repukes.I wrote it in between patients this am so don't go easy on me.

To President Elect Kerry,

I would like to take this opportunity to invite you to join in the investigation to the 2004 election Fraud.What I would like to say to you is that if you concede to this illegitamate pesident then you are enabling the cheaters to their fraudelent win. This is not about John Kerry or George Bush, this is about Americans thinking that the governmental system that is in place has checks and balances that work, and when they begin to doubt(2000 election) that government, will be a different reaction than when they seriously doubt (2004 election) the outcome.

After the supreme court ruled in Favor of George Bush in the 2000 election, I also conceded. I figured that there are checks and balances ,so we must move on. I have always thought that Bush was illegimate as a president, the only thing that he handled well was the post 9/11.

I stood in line 2 hours this year to vote him out of office along with even republicans who voted for him last time,but did not want him anymore.so where did Bush get all the new voters to replace the ones who left him. I feel as though with all of the glitches, exit polls and disenfranchisements going in Bush's favor that he cheated again even worse than previously.I knew that when I saw all of the shifts in Bush's favor that wasn't possible( I am not a statistician ) but I knew they would figure out that it was statistically impossible.The evidence mounted against him and his cohorts is too blatant to ignore, from the simple to even the most complex minds people think that there was fraud and that an investigation needs to be done.

My question is, why is the fight for our democracy a bipartison issue? Why are the Republicans not joining in your search to ease the minds of the people who felt disenfranchised and cheated that day.Why do we pretend to go and vote? Why not stop holding elections alltogether and call this country what it ,is a dictatorship? I would like to know what government system should be checking into this matter? If it is the Judiciary Committee who should be doing a non-partison investigation, then where is the other half of that committe? I want my checks and I want my balances. Our government is going to see an uprising like never before if they do not look into the matter and handle it fairly ,bipartison-like and properly. I would really like you to tell the people who think "we are the greatest nation in the free world, we can not have fraud associated with our election,we have to just let this go for the greater good of our country" I say to them that is why we can not let this issue go, because if we are going to remain the greatest nation in the free world we need to show them how a democracy really works, with real legimate checks and balances. I would like to know what the penalties are for the perpetrators of fraud and purposeful disenfranchisement of voters( wait am minute what century are we living in again?)These people should serve time for these crimes in addition to never beng able to be "voted" into office again,there should be clear laws and firm penalties for such acts of treason against our country.On another note, when a state does have a bad situation with election results especially like Florida and Ohio did in 2000 and 2004 then they should not include their electoral votes and truly decrease their electoral votes that they have earned.Think of these state like a misbehaving child (which is close to the truth-I've seen children with more integrity), when they misbehave you have to follow through with the punishment. I want to know why do the senate and congress have to agree on a whole slate of issues instead of voting on each individual item at a time? This is a grave injustice in itself, when the only way you can get an important bill passed is if you sign off on a whole bunch of other junky bills.We need clear harsh penalties for these acts and we need an agency to be able to enforce them.When the government agency is actually in place and but they are powerless unless they are non-partison, then our democracy is lost. People are going to rise up when they see this. I know a lot of people at work and otherwise who felt that the election was stolen ,but they don't think anything will be done about it, just like in 2000.I ask you,is a little bit of cheating O.K? People say there has been cheating going on since there have been elections, not one bit of sheating should be allowed. I have no tolerance for it and neither should our government officials. I urged Republican members of the Judiciary committee to join with your investigation and the hearings.I told them that if they do not join with you then people will naturally assume they they are aware that there is fraud, but that they choose to turn away.Why would they care what I think or any voter for that matter, we have no power to vote them out if we do not like how they behave. Were they voted in by this same cheating process? I wonder in retrospect, which officials are legitamately voted in and which ones were not. When a candidate loses by such a process and concedes to the cheaters( like Gore and now you are doing it) that they are also admitting that fraud is acceptible in the elections of this country.

I am pleading to you to join in the efforts underway(if you are not already quietly doing that) and also Do Not Concede to Fraud.It's our democracy at stake and I for one feel like that is still worth fighting for , forget about the 2006 and 2008 election because 20% of the people are not ging to be voting again until these issues are resolved. I have never writtten so many letters to government officials as I have in the past month

[LisaM]

112. Done - here's what I sent

Dear Representative Conyers:

I am greatly interested in the work you are doing to expose voting irregularities in Ohio and hope that you continue to do more of the same (and to get strong media coverage for it.)

Electronic voting machines continue to be a threat to a free election. If we MUST have these machines, I suggest several changes to the system that could help allay consumer fears: 1) paper receipt; 2) open source code; 3) no political contributions allowed by those who manufacture, sell, license, or otherwise are financially connected to the companies that make the machines or any software or hardware connected to them.

I am also very interested in the clear voter suppression that disproportionately affects urban, poor, and minority areas. Kenneth Blackwell has done his best to make sure that voting in Ohio is more in the nature of an obstacle course than a citizen right. I think that at best he should be relieved of his office; at worst, he should face charges.

Please keep up your fight. Thank you for your work.

[Sleepless In NY]

115. kick

[troubleinwinter]

123. mine...

I "borrowed" 'liberally' from some others here!

------

To The House Judiciary Committee of the 108th U.S. Congress:

I wish to thank Rep. John Conyers and his Democratic associates for holding the Judiciary Committee Hearing on the Ohio Vote of Nov. 2, 2004.

I urge continued investigation of this election and to schedule an official full House Judiciary hearing into the evidence of vote suppression and indications of vote manipulation, using power of subpoena.

Some of the indications of a ruined election are:

Statistical anomalies
Election officials partisanship
Exit Polling data questions
Voter suppression, disenfranchisement and intimidation
Long lines to cast votes
Indications of vote manipulation
Malfunctioning equipment
Skewed equipment distribution
No verifiable paper trail
Missing absentee ballots
High numbers of provisional ballots tossed out
Partisan suppliers of voting machines
High numbers of spoiled ballots, particularly in poor/minority areas
Tens of thousands of voter complaints logged
Multiple precincts in one location causing confusion and ballot rejection
Undertrained poll workers

Every voting machine running a proprietary software program in Ohio must be impounded, the source code used to create each such program be subpoenaed, experts be brought in to analyze both the machines and the source code and testify as to the presence of any bugs or malicious code found, and representatives from the companies responsible for creating any problematic hardware or software be brought in to answer for their products.

I ask that the Ohio electors be rejected by Congress until all votes have been properly counted.

We cease to function as a representative republic when we do not know that the will of the people has been upheld by a legitimate election.

As stated by editors, W. Leon Smith and Don M. Fisher, Lone Star Iconoclast~

"The time is now to draw a line in the sand -- to give not one inch, one millimeter, one vote toward the cause of skewing this election. This recount, no matter the outcome, conducted properly, is a necessity for democracy to prevail. Without it, America can never trust another election."

Respectfully,

XXXXX
XXXXX

[troubleinwinter]

125. I sent a copy to the WHOLE committee

not only the Minority (as the OP addy is).

Send a copy of yours here, so that the Repubs on the committee get it, too!

http://www.house.gov/judiciary/

[frankly_fedup2]

127. I've always heard emails don't get their attention, but if they get . . .

a lot of FAXES (especially the Republican side of The Judiciary Committee that did not even show up . . . not one of them) really gets there attention because:

1. It makes noises as faxes come through.
2. They have to keep refilling the paper.
3. Others in the office will hear the one taking care of the fax machine bitching about it.
4. When a lot of faxes come through at one time (say the fax machine kept going on and on for hours), some of them actually get read.
5. Usually, the head of the office gets involved. They may say trash them, but it's worth a try.

What do you think?????

Sent my email though.

[keepthemhonest]

128. good idea

I say we just keep hitting them from every angle phones emails and faxes sound good to me

[Aus10tech]

129. I sent Mine

We got it Started now let's keep it Going

[mak3cats]

130. Done for a kick! (eom)

[Imagevision]

133. DONE - Email & Fax

[floridadem30]

134. I had a problem w/link when I tried to send but after 3 min it sent.

[kat21]

136. Does anyone know where I can get a transcript?

[FloridaCrat]

139. Done !

I wrote a short sweet memo. Also helped my dad, sister, hubby, 2 kids to send letters.

[LongTomH]

140. Kick!

:kick:

[spacedog]

141. Fax number?

Sent my email but would like to send a fax... can someone post the fa number for the judiciary committee? I can't seem to find it.

Thanks!

[pleiku52cab]

142. DONE n/t

[Angry Girl]

143. done! *kick*

[For PaisAn]

144. Done

thanks for posting

[sinkingfeeling]

145. Done. Had no problems sending to the site.....n/t

[CAcyclist]

146. my email

Message: Thank you for this congressional investigation. Part of the integrity of the voting process is the freedom of Secretaries of State to do their job and not be intimidated and subjected to frivolous complaints by partisans in order to suppress the vote. The republican party in California has been targeting our Sec. of State, Kevin Shelley in just such a manner. The intent clearly was to get him to resign, which he rightly refused to do. The result, though, ended up in freezing of HAVA funds which may have negatively affected voter turnout. Please investigate this too.

[Qutzupalotl]

147. Mine

I trust the vote totals in my home state of Oregon, because we have a vote-by-mail system. We consistently have the highest turnout in the nation, over 80%. Long lines and complex initiatives are not a problem. Recounts are relatively easy.

I do NOT trust voting machines with partisan ownership and no paper trail. I believe voting machine companies need to either use open-source software or have their contracts cancelled. Lack of transparency in the voting process should be illegal. Paper trails are essential.

The best route for the nation would be to follow Oregon's lead and institute national vote-by-mail. The next best alternative would be optical scanning of paper ballots filled in at the polling place.

Thank you, Rep. Conyers and the House Judiciary Democrats for your attention to these important concerns.

[sonias]

148. done

Thank you Congressman Conyers!

Sonia

[SnoopDog]

149. Update to this thread…

Although the topic of this thread is to ‘send in questions’, I responded more about my interpretation on what Representative Mr. Mell Watt (D-NC) said at “Judiciary Democratic Forum Preserving Democracy - What Went Wrong in Ohio December 8, 2004”.

I listened again to the meeting (it was not an ‘official hearing’) specifically when Mr. Watt made his plea. At 2 hours and 22 minutes into the replay (2:22:30 per c-span), Mr. Watt said “…(would) help us if we found an increasing amount of pressure applied on a formal process to create a formal hearing of the judiciary in Ohio”. Further on he stated ‘…but the machinery of Congress operates on the on the official record”. Finally, “… (If we) had assistance of mobilizing the official effort on congress we might be headed down a quick path of relief”.

It was my interpretation that Mr. Watt is saying ‘give us a reason to fight harder for a hearing’. Send in those emails, letters, and faxes telling us to formally investigate the matter.

So that is why I wrote my letter. I hope you will too.

[BlueBloodDem]

150. My email will not go through :(

Hi all,
I am a newbie as you can see. I have been following you guys for the past month. You guys are awesome. I was hesitant to join as I really do not post on forums, but after reading the past few days, I changed my mind. I met Conyers a few years ago. He is a stand up guy. I just tried to send the email, and it wouldn't go through, Any suggestions?

[keepthemhonest]

159. copy /paste the list of post number 114

then send the letter it ws really easy that way for me, and I am not a computer wiz by ay means. welcome newbie ,be inspired. i am not normally a poster person either but this is for a good cause.:hi:

[vet_against_Bush]

151. Done, kick

I am a professional social worker. In my profession dual
relationships and conflicts of interest are considered taboo to
protect the rights of clients. See the NASW code of ethics for more.
Why don't politicians have similar ethics to protect various vital
public interests? For example, is it ethical for a Secretary of State
to also be the Chair of a major political candidate's campaign? I am
also interested in finding out why a machine in Gahanna Ward 1B of
Franklin County Ohio recorded 4258 votes for Bush when there was only
638 voters casting ballots. Thank you.

[roguevalley]

153. keep trying! It all matters.

[Qutzupalotl]

152. I'm impressed with the caliber of letters in this thread.

Just goes to show what a fantastic, unique resource DU is! Thank you ALL for making DU the leading edge of progress.

[govegan]

154. Done

Honorable Representative Conyers and Staff:

Thanks very much for investigating voting fraud and related issues. As the Rev. Jesse Jackson has stated: "We must have a standardized national voting process and take the matter out of the hands of individual states, which can keep the process 'separate and unequal.' We must have a constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right to vote. How can people argue that the right to own a gun is implicitly stated in the constitution, and then turn around and say it is acceptable to have the right to vote only be ‘implicit’ in the constitution?"

I concur with those sentiments. With two computer programming/systems degrees and over twenty years of professional experience, I know that no good excuse exists for the sorry state of the closed and proprietary voting systems being foisted onto the American people. I am actively involved in reforming our laws in Washington state, however, a national solution would be ideal. The public franchise of the vote is the very foundation of a representative democracy. Systems developed in secret and closed to public scrutiny are an outrage, and a clearly insidious way to undermine the democratic process.

I am encouraged by the efforts of the House Judiciary Committee Democratic Staff. Please continue in your efforts.

[shadowknows69]

155. just sent this

Message: I watched the entire "voter fraud" hearing and was riveted as I'm sure the lot of you respectable ladies and gentlemen were. I'm a registered Democrat, struggling small business owner and fierce lover of my country's constitution and our potential to lead the world to an era of peace and prosperity. Having said that, I have never been more afraid for the very foundations of our country and safety of her citizens as I am in recent years. This issue must be brought to the mainstream and examined letting the considerable chips fall where they may. If there is a shred of the America I believe we should be left in our government I beg of you to show the people and fight to find the truths in these matters no matter what they end up being. I, and many of my fellow Americans on both sides of the political fence need to be able to believe in our country again. We need to know we still run things, if we ever did. We can't go on being the best Americans we can be until we do. You legislate for a country of confused, terrified specters congressmen and women. Aimlessly going through the motions. Fearing inevitable disasters. Complacent to corruption they see as ingrained and unmovable. Bereft of the hope that our voice was properly heard is the single greatest wound that could ever be dealt to our patriotism. I supported Candidate Kerry because I assumed the majority of our country would see that President Bush has lead this country down a dark, hopefully reversible path. Not necessarily with unsound policy but I feel poor execution. I still feel in my gut that the majority may have wanted John Kerry as President and that he was unjustly beaten. You have some of the evidence of that possibility before you now. The man who occupies the White House is a person whose decisions can affect every living being on this planet. We as citizens are forced by proxy to adopt his actions as our own in the world view. I can't accept that representation until I'm sure the right man is representing me. I can't be alone in these feelings and I'm hoping you receive many emails to the same effect. For the sake of this great country, the sake of all of our children's futures, and for the sake of whatever you consider to be your own souls I beg of you to bring this to light and find the truth before we seat our next President.

[Pooka Fey]

160. Wow! Nice letter.

[shadowknows69]

175. thanks

probably the most important letter I've written in 10 years.

[neversaynever]

156. TWO LETTERS: one "blue" -- one "red"

Here's my letter to Conyers:
Dear Mr. Conyers and House Jud. Com.,

I watched the forum broadcast on C-SPAN concerning election irregularities and the disenfranchisement of millions of voters in the 2004 election. I do not understand how, in consideration of such widespread problems and so many lost votes, anyone can possibly consider certifying this election. This is not a partisan issue: it is a matter of the right to vote for ALL people.

I urge you not only to investigate and examine these irregularities, but also to staunchly contest the results of the election as it is very obvious that all the votes were neithercast, nor counted: therefore, the election results cannot accurately reflect the "will of the people."

***

Also sent the following to the "red feds" (then informed the "blues" that I had sent this one to the "reds" -- catcatcat says that might be a good idea; i.e. let the dems know what you're sending their colleagues) :

Dear (assholes anonymous): (NO, that wasn't in the original!)

I write to address what I consider one of the single most pertinent issues facing our nation today: the widespread evidence of voting irregularities, voter suppression and the failure of the democratic process in our most recent presidential election.

This is a non-partisan issue: it relates to the inadequacy of our system that has become entirely apparent in the course of the investigations ensuing from the most recent election. There is no longer any doubt that the election results do not represent the will of the people because too many of the people were either prevented from voting or their votes were not counted.

I cannot support the results of an election that does not stand up to scrutiny according to the standards of fairness that are internationally recognized as the very backbone of democracy.

As a taxpaying, law-abiding citizen, please do not forget that I am your employer. I pay your salary. From this perspective, I demand that you set your partisan loyalties aside and immediately join the efforts of your colleagues to investigate every incidence of voting irregularity, of voter suppression, disenfranchisement, etc. I demand that you join the efforts to insure that the vote of every American citizen who cast (or sought to cast) a ballot in the 2004 presidential election be counted. Until that process has been completed, no election results should be certified and no candidate shall be declared the "winner" by the electoral college.

You have been placed in public office to represent all the people, not just some of the people.

Sincerest regards,

[Carolab]

158. Damn! That is just f'ing ridiculously slow...

Why don't they boost the capacity to handle this kind of a load? For crissake it took me an hour and five tries to get this thing off. It kept bombing and sending error messages and kicking me off the net. How can 2 million people send e-mails if this is the best they can do?

[BostonLefty]

161. Conyers recommends writing Blackwell & Sensenbrenner

Hi, everyone --

Yep, this is my first post (I discovered DU about a month ago, after coming down with a bad case of the post-election heebie jeebies). It's so great to see so much energy coalesce into something the mainstream has to react to.

Anyway, I just wanted to post a link that I thought was useful and interesting. This is Conyer's opening statement from the hearing:
http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/conyersvotestmt12804.pdf

I'm posting it in this thread because in his statement, Conyers's response to "all of the people who have asked me what they can do" is to contact Blackwell and Sensenbrenner.

Great letters, everyone...

(Apologies if I'm repeating info found in other threads -- I'm squeezing this in while I'm at work!)

[prodigal_green]

162. Done. eom

[satya]

163. Done. n/t

[Shameless Agitator]

164. done- here's mine

Dear Rep. Conyers,

Thank you so much for leading the effort to investigate the growing reports of intimidation, suppression and fraud in the 2004 election. Voting is the cornerstone of our democracy, and I fear that the foundation of our nation is eroding. If all citizens, regardless of their race, their class, or their political beliefs do not have equal, free, and fair access to a verifiable ballot, none of us are truly free.

It would be a crime against democracy if the electoral college is allowed to select our next president before the Ohio recount is complete. This is a major issue that goes to the heart of our most basic rights as Americans--the right to vote, and the right to have our votes fairly and impartially counted.

Your Republican colleagues do not seem to understand the basic principles driving the growing public call for investigation and voting reform. This is not a partisan issue; it is not a fringe issue. It is a fundamentally American issue.

Please continue your groundbreaking investigation. Your bravery and patriotism are truly inspiring.

[vademocrat]

165. Done - thanks for posting n/t

[pattyloutwo]

166. message sent

Is this a democracy or a bad dream? It is my understanding that no Republican members of the House attended the "hearing" on Ohio voting irregularities. Republicans don't care about honest fair elections? How can we support and demand free and fair elections around the world but not here at home? Our men and women are fighting for what reason? This will be recorded as one of the most shameful episodes in our nation's history or it will be used as an example of how democracy does work, and the leaders in our country went out on a limb and demanded our country do the right thing. It's up to you, our elected representatives, to choose the right path. Thank you.

I just discovered DU after the election. A lot of bright people sharing ideas - it's been great.

[Duncan Grant]

167. Done. n/t

:kick:

[Pooka Fey]

169. Done! Here's my letter and question:

Dear Rep. Conyers,
I have been assured by the White House and the American mainstream media that I have no just cause to question the results of the 2004 election in which votes in the two most crucial states, Ohio and Florida, were tabulated on electronic machines produced by Diebold, Inc., a major contributor to the Bush campaign. Furthermore, the CEO of Diebold, Walden O’Dell, stated in an August 14, 2003 Republican fund raising invitation, “I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year”.

As a further demand of blind, unreasoned faith that the White House is asking me to adopt in regards to the election, the machines used in these states provide no paper record of a vote which can be recounted in event of a close or disputed result. In other words, the voter’s choice for the president of the most powerful nation on earth is unverifiable. Another unusual ‘coincidence’ – the CEO of Diebold and the Vice-President of ES&S, the other major voting machine manufacturer, are brothers.

I am being assured that 8 to 9 hour lines in predominantly black, Democratic-leaning counties in Ohio were the result of random ‘irregularities’ and typical election day problems; rather than a premeditated plan to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of black voters in violation of the fifteenth amendment to the Constitution ratified in 1870.

I am being asked not to question why white voters in Republican leaning counties in Ohio did not have to wait in long lines to vote. The fact that over 100 voting machines had been purchased and were available to use in Ohio, but were not put into use; the fact that there were more voting machines in use in Ohio during the primary elections than were available for the presidential elections? Again, the White House expects me to just ‘have faith’ in the fairness of the election process.

I am also being asked to put my faith in the wisdom of a “lock-down” in the Warren county, Ohio precinct for reasons of “Homeland Security”, preventing non-partisan observers from witnessing the vote tallying. Every intelligence and federal law-enforcement agency has denied issuing this alert.

I could go on, Rep. Conyers, but I think I have made my point. In a democratic government, built on the foundations of the separation of church and state; I am being asked to ‘have faith’, to squash my entirely reasonable doubts, and to refrain from questioning an election process which was put into place by my political rivals.

I have just one question for you, Rep. Conyers. Why is the White House, the Republican party, and the mainstream U.S. media treating me like I am a naive, gullible illiterate peasant teleported into the U.S. from 10th century Europe?

[neek]

199. What an excellent letter.

I feel exactly the same way.
Thank you for writing it, Pooka Fey.

[Pooka Fey]

200. Thanks! Feel free to borrow from text of my letter fellow DUers. :-)

[Pooka Fey]

170. FAX Number: [phone] from post #19 n/t

[prairierose]

171. Here is the email I just sent...

with thanks to Qutzupalotl for a paragraph I thought was particularly important!

Members of the House Judiciary Committee,

First of all, I would like to thank you for your courage in holding the forum yesterday in Washington DC. You are true patriots & I am so glad that there still are some like you in Congress.

The incidents of irregularities in the last three (2000, 2002, 2004) general elections tell me that we have a crisis in this country. Talking to my fellow citizens tells me that we have a crisis of confidence in our government. There is no time to waste in beginning to seriously investigate the problems that have been unearthed by patriots who feel the integrity of our vote is more important than partisan politics. You, as elected representatives of the people, must act on their behalf.

As I tell my students, voting is not a privilege, it is our civic duty. Too many Americans feel that their vote was not counted in the last elections. Too many poor people and people of color were disenfranchised by partisan politics and dirty tricks. This alone seems to be a violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

If we can no longer believe in our electoral system, then what kind of country are we? I have had contact with many people around the country who are convinced that our system is broken & we are no longer a republic. I am one of those people. I have no faith in the electoral process where evoting machines are used. It is also my understanding that under the HAVA legislation, that all states must use evoting machines by the 2006 election cycle.

Are we all crazy? Would you do business with a bank that did not give you a receipt for a deposit or withdrawal? I think not. Why would we entrust the most sacred responsibility we have as citizens to a machine that can not print a receipt that verifies the vote & makes a recount possible if it is necessary?

I do NOT trust voting machines with partisan ownership and no paper trail. I believe voting machine companies need to either use open-source software or have their contracts cancelled. Lack of transparency in the voting process should be illegal. Paper trails are essential.

In closing, I find this section from the introduction of the Declaration of Independence to be particularly apt at this point in time.


--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Again, thank you for your courage and your work.

Sincerely
xxxx


BTW, I did try to send to the whole committee & the page on the committee website that lists all members was unavailable. Did anyone else find this?

Oh & feel free to use anything here that you want.

[Kindigger]

177. Done

:kick:

[Stew225]

173. done. Thank God for

people like Conyers who are willing to help our grandchildren's futures.

[clayton72]

176. Done! Here's my letter

In light of the many reported irregularities of the recent presidential election I do not feel that I can, in good concience, recognize the alleged outcome. Please investigate the election to the fullest extent possible. In order to safe guard our democracy each report must be taken seriously and investigated until all questions have been answered. Should any persons be guilty of tampering with the election I expect them to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Considering the grave nature of such crimes I would not rule out charges of treason and the death penalty, particularly for those officials who hold positions of power and have abused the public trust and have threatened the bedrock foundations of our republic (IE Kenneth Blackwell, Sec State of Ohio).

Thank you for your service to our country.

Sincerly,
Clayton

[Carolab]

178. Keeping it kicked

[coreystone]

180. Done! My message!...................

"Message: My applause for Rep. Conyers! I feel quite strongly that everyone in our country should support the right of every citizen who casts their votes for the persons or issues on the ballot of every election. I believe that the process should be clear, transparent, and uniform for all citizens throughout this country. This would not diminish any "state's rights" issues of local standards, but, there should be national standards by which we conduct our elections in order that "NO VOTER IS LEFT BEHIND"! In addition, if we do not have the proper safeguards to implement an "electronic system" to record and tabulate the selections of each voter, then, we should take the time to record our votes on a paper ballot, and, manually count each and every vote with a clear "voter audit trail". Finally, I would care to express my admiration for the work that Representative Conyers and so many others have demonstrated in the commitment to the democratic values of this nation; being paramount to the on going struggle for all to be equal in our rights as citizens. Thank You for your Service Sir!!

{my name}

[WMoses]

181. I just...

...sent him an email. Hope he can get at least a million.

[AllyCat]

182. Done and passed to others.

Keep this kicked folks! We must avail ourselves of every opportunity to keep this in the public eye since the media is not going to do it for us. Sign!! Everyone here has a legitimate concern that can be said in a respectful, concise sentence or two.

Be sure to thank them for taking their time to read it.

[tsuki]

183. Done

[Spiffarino]

184. Done!

Please do your best to address the issue of voting machines with no paper trail. I work in computer technology and know very well how simple it is to make a computer count any way you want it to. When partisans control the count, it's not a matter of if, but when there will be cheating.

We need voting to be simple and transparent. We need a paper trail. Don't let Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia lie to you...it's very easy to do.

Many thanks to you and to all you Democrats who really care about us. I feel my hope waning. Democrats like you are the only people who give me a reason to believe that we may yet be able to save our grand experiment in self-governance

[SaveAmerica]

186. Done, my short and sweet note...

Dear Representative Conyers, thank you on behalf of my children for your part in protecting voters' rights and saving democracy and the future of America. Representative Ney suggests that an investigation into voting problems 'next year' will solve the problems in election 2004. I disagree; that time was from November 2000 to October 2004. November 2, 2004 proved the failure of the government's investigation. Now is the time to investigate that failure. That you believe in our democracy enough to lead the investigation says so much about your courage, strength and belief in America. Thank you,

[Yuugal]

187. Done nt

[lonestarnot]

188. Every time I try to send email from posted link computer freeze!

[Chelsea Patriot]

190. I sent an e-mail earlier today!

[For PaisAn]

191. kick

please keep this kicked!

[thjay]

192. sent email and filled out web form

I sent Conyers a thank you email last night. Just now I sent a question to his web form regarding absentee voting irregularities in Ohio.

[dave502d]

193. Done

[keepthemhonest]

196. wow I can't believe all the people that have posted that

they worte in to all of them (plus the one that just did it and did not post) don't forget to call too. Keep the pressure on.

We started the resource thread if anyone would like to add any helpful posts it would be appreciated .:think:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x133394

[Emillereid]

197. Done

[neek]

198. I just sent mine!

I am new to DU and happy to finally have a place to go.

I hope Conyers doesn't give up the fight in trying to get the raw exit poll data. I know that is the key to this whole thing.

IT'S CRAZY. I'M SO FRUSTRATED AND ANGRY AT THE REPUBLICANS. HOW CAN THEY SLEEP AT NIGHT????

[Pooka Fey]

201. Thanks Neek, and Welcome to DU :-)

You're in the right place. I'm still really too much of a Newbie to be welcoming you - I joined up on Nov. 4th. - BUT it's a tradition to welcome Newbies and it's kind of slacked off lately with all the suspicions about repugs posting disinformation and starting flame wars. So here goes:

WELCOME TO DU, NEEK!!! :toast:

[tll]

202. Done

And did I ever have questions...

[GardeningGal]

204. I sent my e-mail on Thursday

I'm a newbie posting, but have been lurking since the election. I sent the following message on Thurs. but couldn't reply until I figured out the damn cookies!

Here's what I sent:

There is no more important issue facing the country than solving the voting issues that have been apparent in the 2000 and 2004 elections. Our very democracy is threatened by the lack of verification and the partisanship of the secretaries of state.

Our election process should be able to withstand the same type of audits that are expected of banks who are insured by the FDIC. The current situation would miserably fail such an audit. We MUST get this right this time or we can kiss our hard fought democracy goodbye.

[Blue_In_AK]

205. Computer freeze

I'm having a problem with computer freeze from the site. Has this been happening to anyone else? Should I just wait?

[Blue_In_AK]

206. Never mind, it finally went. eom