I have a problem with Kerry assuming the presidency if he didn't fight for

[propagandafreegal]

it. From all accounts there really is no indicator that John Kerry is fighting for the presidency that he won. I'm so conflicted over this...

[Mandate My Ass]

1. I have a bigger problem with Bush assuming one he didn't win

I'm not at all conflicted when I put it in that perspective.

[floridadem30]

8. I second that

[Mandate My Ass]

10. So much more is at stake this time. The next four years

will make the last four seem like a picnic in the park. There are going to be a lot of people hurt or much much worse. That's the thing that keeps me awake at night. In comparison, concern about what Kerry may or may not be doing behind the scenes pales into insignificance.

I do believe, however, despite Kerry's efforts or lack thereof, Bush will be sworn in in January. His cabal fights dirtier than we do. If we the people do what we can to cast doubt on his "victory," he may have a more difficult time with the most egregious policies he hopes to enact.

[noonriser]

34. Me too! nt

[bunny planet]

35. and I third it.

[Pepper32]

41. Right on!

I have a big problem with that!

[kc.ink]

44. roger that. eom

[Karmadillo]

2. If he wins, you'll be amazed at how easily you'll get over it.

n/t

[Truman01]

3. I don't think we are going to have to worry about JK assuming

the Presidency this time. I like what mandatemyass said though.

[The Flaming Red Head]

4. Is it now in your realm of possibility?

just curious.

[merh]

5. All I can say is, I sure like how folkls know what is going on

behind the scenes. We have lots of psychics in the group.

Mandate my ass is so right, perspective is everything!

[txindy]

6. When he wins, you'll have no choice.

Just because you can't see that Kerry's involved, doesn't mean he isn't. There are bigger things at stake here than keeping everyone emotionally comfortable while the investigation takes place. If we're told that Kerry and Edwards are involved, then the WH will know, too. And that's not okay, no matter what anyone claims.

[BR_Parkway]

7. Aren't you really saying "he didn't fight the way I think he should"?

If Kerry opened his mouth about this, THAT would be the focus, sore loser would be the only sound bite we'd hear. And it would have instantly galvanized into a partisan issue with half of America thinking it was all about "sore losers"

As it is, the sound bite is more and more frequently "Election Fraud". The more that hear it, the more get curious. Curious makes for a bi partisan issue, one that gets the support of RePugs as well. Who do you think could sway a RePug Rep or Senator? His Democratic constituents?

As long as Kerry and everyone else are repeating "this isn't about overturning the election, we lost by too big a margin" - the story has legs and can grow. The minute it becomes a Dem vs Rep fight over sore losers - the story withers on the vine (don't forget who controls the MSM) and we lose. Just like 2000, no more investigation, no more facts uncovered, no one who cares.

[propagandafreegal]

9. I just heard on DemocracyNow! that Kerry hasn't spent any of the 50 millio

that he had reserved in his campaign for recounting etc.

That isn't good. I donated to the legal fund!

[BR_Parkway]

13. Seems like you could research a little more, you would find

that the reported $50 million is more like $15, that he has donated 250,000 to the WA governors recount (I could be wrong, but I do remember hearing it was the max he was allowed to donate)

[propagandafreegal]

24. Actually, I did hear that but I'm saying there was NO money for the Ohio

recount. The one that matters for HIM!

[BR_Parkway]

27. They have just started the recounts there, what should he have

spent in on so far? Nothing that I can think of, but plenty when this thing gets to the courtroom.

[mulethree]

32. Sounds like Primary election leftovers, not recount fund n/t

[jsascj]

11. I just do not believe that he is not working behind the scenes

in some way. Look what happened to Gore when he came out swinging. He was DESTROYED! I knew people who voted for Gore who said they wished that they hadn't after the 2000 hoopla.

Let's not forget that Kerry is a fighter...unlike "some". I don't think he has given up. He is just 'fighting smart'.

'course I could be wrong.

[Shalom]

12. You Said It Yourself: KERRY WON THE PRESIDENCY...

As such, it belongs to him whether or not he lifts a finger afterwards.

[Alizaryn]

14. There are different methods of "fighting". Kerry is not an egocentric

person that uses his "fights" to validate himself to others and upstage an issue. Patience is one of his strengths. IMO

[wildflowergardener]

15. Something I heard about Kerry during the election

Hi. I am remembering something that I either heard or read about Kerry prior to the election. It was questioned about why he hadn't sponsored many bills in the senate. They said that to him, it was more important that bills be passed, then for him to get the credit for it. I think it is more important to him, probably that the election fraud to be exposed, than for him to be the one to get the credit for exposing it - so I believe he is doing what he can to get it exposed, like donating the money for the recounts in Washington when they needed it, and is working behind the scenes to make sure that things get done. He's good at working behind the scenes to get things done and bring people together for a cause he believes in.

At least that's what I'm hoping.

Meg

[momzno1]

38. good point

He is being very smart by hanging back. We would never ever have gotten this far with the evidence if he had jumped in full force. Look at Gore 2000. We need to believe in Kerry, and his Integrity. I believe in him wholeheartedly.

[spguilty]

16. never happen!

You know what, you can rest your mind, there's no chance that Kerry will become president. (at least not in this counrty!)

[politicasista]

17. Sadly what Smirky wants, Smirky gets

The truth will be revealed in its own time. Smirky will leave the WH in disgrace.

[Shalom]

18. You Can Rest, Knowing George Walker Bushitler Will Go to Jail

May not be in this "country", Gitmo is a good possibility ?

Hope they let the guards have a little "fun" with the POS AWOL Cowardly Cokehead Commander-In-Thief......

[seito]

36. LMAO!!!! n/t

[Chi]

22. Welcome

Welcome to the DU spguilty. 8)

I'm not sure I understand your meaning spguilty.
Why is there 'no chance' that Kerry will become Pres?

Thnx in Advance

[EMunster]

23. congratulations on your very first post...assume we can expect more...

of the same.

no need to fake like you give a damn.

[Name removed]

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[Marnieworld]

19. Kerry could have been in a coma from 11/2 to Jan 20 and I could care less

seriously who cares how it would happen. You have no idea what he is doing or not doing to "fight" He's just not on camera is all.

[European Socialist]

20. An old song still true today.

Johnny get angry, Johnny get mad, Johnny hey man-I want a caveman. Johnny show me that you care-realy care for me.

[EMunster]

21. I have a problem more with people always looking to redirect attention...

...away from the real issue and turn it to some supposed flaw with Kerry.

[propagandafreegal]

26. That was not my intent. Of course I know Democracy is at stake...

I was just venting my frustrations...

[BR_Parkway]

28. well, they haven't figured out how to blame a Clinton yet, so they

have to take the next best target...

[IAMREALITY]

25. Well Luckily Your Problem is just that, Your Problem. He Will Assume it

Anyway, and we will all stand beside him.

[pattyloutwo]

30. He did fight for it

before the votes were cast. Now we need to count the votes accurately.

[ClintCooper2003]

31. Um, you shouldn't be conflicted. I wouldn't have a problem with my CAT...

assuming the presidency at this point.

[lonestarnot]

33. No problem! We are disadvantaged by MSM.

anything better than chimpieshit

[Terre]

37. A Statement by Kerry this week

from an AP article on CNN:
Electoral College set to certify election
Doubts persist about integrity of nation's voting system

Four paragraphs down:

"It's critical that we investigate and understand any and every voting irregularity anywhere in our country, not because it would change the outcome of the election but because Americans have to believe that their votes are counted in our democracy," John Kerry said this week, after calling for a statewide recount in Ohio.

Full article today:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/10/unsettled.election.ap/index.html

[seito]

39. I am sorry you feel conflicted.

I am sure with time you will feel better about it.

[Time for change]

40. I think that's unfair to Kerry

He fought for it plenty, for two years.

[Pepper32]

42. Very true! n/t

[Carl Brennan]

43. ~~~~ How~~~~

do you know he wasn't fighting for it. :eyes:

[Karenca]

45. So, are you one of the undecideds?

<<<< I'm so conflicted over this... >>>>

WOULD IT MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER IF WE KEEP IN OFFICE A MASS-MURDERER DICTATOR WHO STOLE TWO ELECTIONS?

[Turn CO Blue]

46. It's not just about Kerry and the Presidency - it's also about

replacing the Cabinet, changing the direction in Iraq, appointing fair judges to the Supreme Court, etc.

We don't just want to oust *, we also want to oust his whole Administration.