Ukraine: The stench of the ultimate hypocrisy is overwhelming....

[TruthIsAll]

The Vote: Yanukovych wins 49.42-46.7
Western funded Exit Poll: Yushkeno wins 49.4-45.9

The U.S. Govt claims that the exit polls prove Yushenko is the winner and the election was fraudulent.

Hmmm....

The stench of hypocrisy is overwhelming.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=documented+fraud+-+exit+poll&btnG=Search+News

Who is the next president of Ukraine? With over 99 percent of the vote counted, the country's Central Election Commission announced that current prime minister Viktor Yanukovych had received 49.42 percent to 46.7 percent for his rival, former prime minister Viktor Yushchenko, in an election that the head of the joint OSCE-Council of Europe-European Parliament-NATO observer mission, Bruce George, characterized as failing to meet "a considerable number of international standards for democratic elections."


Yushchenko supporters, buttressed by Western-funded exit poll results that showed him winning the election (one had him ahead of Yanukovych 49.4 to 45.9 percent, another leading by up to 11 points, for a 54 to 43 percent result), have vowed a campaign of public protests and civil disobedience to force a recount that will certify Yushchenko's victory. On Monday up to 100,000 demonstrated in the capital Kyiv and many pledged to form a "tent city" to keep up the pressure. The municipal governments in Kyiv as well as in Lviv and Ivano-Frankivsk, two of western Ukraine's principal metropolises, have declared they recognize Yushchenko as the rightful victor. The Yushchenko campaign has documented over 2,000 election violations, and has called into question both turnout figures in parts of eastern Ukraine (supposedly over 96 percent of voters turned out in Donetsk, the region where Yanukovych served as governor) and the count (the commission announced that Yanukovych received 96 percent of the vote).

[c-macdonald]

1. well it's about time..

Finally, TruthIsAll presents an analysis I agree with. Well done!

[TruthIsAll]

2. What, exactly, do you agree with?

That OUR man won?
That the exit polls were RIGHT?
That the hypocrisy is OVERWHELMING?

Expound, c-mac.

[c-macdonald]

15. I agree...

On all three counts, my friend.

[Straight Shooter]

3. I didn't realize the spread was so narrow

Whoa. Stench of hypocrisy is right. Angels are flying unbalanced, trying to hold their noses in flight.

[jamboi]

4. Loved all those * and Powell quotes re: free and fair elections! n/t

[Nederland]

5. Apples and Oranges

The big difference between the exit polls in Ukraine and the exit polls everybody around here is complaining about is that the exit polls in Ukraine were final exit polls, not half baked results released with only half the voting completed.

Comparing the two is ridiculous.

[Cheswick2.0]

6. Early exit polls have always been a good indicator of the election

results. It is only this year that we are hearing this nonsense about final exit polls.

[Nederland]

8. That's because

...we normally didn't have access to early exit poll data. The Internet changed that.

[Tripmann]

7. Its not the comparison.....

....that causes the hypocracy, it's the fact that the fake president and fake administration will refuse to acknowledge any data, exit poll or otherwise, that doesn't tell them what they want to hear. But they will stick their grubby little noses into any countrys election process masquerading as the custodians for democracy and justice and scream about exit poll data that DOES tell them what they want to hear.

If it wasn't so sickening, it would be laughable.

Tripmann

[suston96]

9. Final exit polls?

"...the exit polls in Ukraine were final exit polls, not half baked results released with only half the voting completed."

Exit polling doesn't have to be done after the " voting (is) completed".

Exit polling numbers are samplings of "key precincts" and a pre-determined number of samplings can tell, during the election, whether the "key precinct" is doing as it is has been predicted or that "key precinct" is indicating that something else is happening.

That is why Florida was called for Gore in 2000, and it turned out that the key sampling in Florida was correct.

Those 1100 people who accidently voted for Buchanan thought and reported that they had voted for Gore.

It wasn't the early sampling that skewed the exit polling in Florida 2000. It was an unfortunately stupid butterfly ballot.

[Nederland]

10. Sure it does

Exit polling doesn't have to be done after the "voting (is) completed".

Yes it does. If you don't wait until the voting is complete you will not get an accurate sample of people voting in that precinct. There are all sorts of conventional wisdoms about "democrats vote early", "young people vote late", etc. These phrase are indicative of a truth that campaign managers have known for years: certain demographics vote at different times. If you only use data collected from the first half of the day you will end up completely ignoring entire demographics.

[TruthIsAll]

11. Yawn. n/t

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[Nederland]

13. Thanks TIA

...for demonstrating once again that you have nothing intelligent to say.

[suston96]

12. Exit polls

Most exit polling data is released before state polls close and the data is passed on to the requestors of the polls, usually the media, which then call those states for one candidate or the other immediately after the polls close.

That is because the "key precincts" have sampled out as predicted.

States that cannot be called when the polls close have incomplete or indeterminate exit polling and thus must wait for actual results.

The webs have been blamed for jumping the gun. That is unfair because what I believe happened is that the exit pollings during the day in those states were matching up with the pre-election polls.

In virtually all cases, that is what usually happens in an election. That is why the Ukraine election was immediately challenged.

The problem with this one is that exit pollings has been "weighted" after the polls close, to match up with actual results.

That is not how exit polling works.

[Nederland]

14. Link

I'll consider what you've said if you provide some sort of link providing proof that this is how exit polling really works.