Republicans Threaten Violence in Washington State!

[phantomvotes]

He's threatening violence.
Sounds like another Brooks Brothers Riot in the making.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/14/11353/573

If this happens and the media starts giving air time to this to stop recounts as they did in Miami 2000, Keyboard army time is over! This won't work for them this time because we are really pissed off this time, and they will get what they are asking for recount or no recount. Civil disorder and protest won't be some video taped rent a riot for Bush media propaganda!:grr: :grr: :grr: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Emillereid]

1. Boy, does this demonstrate the difference between the parties.

The Repukes threaten violence and the Democrats go to court and hold hearings. Maybe we should take a page from them. I remember in the sixties the antiwar movement didn't really take off until we started making 'trouble.' We've got to raise the price of 'business as usual.'

[PROGRESSIVE1]

3. Yes we do. We can't let the Rethugs steal this one too.

[malatesta1137]

69. We already have.

[texpatriot2004]

4. Hmm, used to be the other way around, huh? n/t

[atxryan]

take it to the streets

Hey texpatriot! Ready to cross that line and take to the streets with me?
-RYAN

[texpatriot2004]

12. Hello my friend. Yes, I feel it. I got alot from our conversation

about this the other day. I too have been asking myself about that "line" in the sand. You know, at what point am I willing to risk? When is enough ENOUGH? How bad does it need to get before I am willing to take action? I think it's been coming for me since 2000. Four years of anger surfaced for me in November 2004. It first showed up the day I voted early. I was so angry casting that E-Vote. It has only been galvanized since that day...and it's growing. So, atxryan, if the Repugs threaten violence over this, is that the line in the sand we spoke of? That inevitable line that is drawn that demands a stand, a fight? What do you think?

PS I have the Florida Billboard thread. I found it to share with you. Didn't know if I should e-mail it or not?

[jamboi]

7. Nonviolence is only way to go. n/t

[bloom]

8. I think non-violent confrontation works best

when it is seen as keeping violence at bay.

[Emillereid]

51. There's a lot of room between passivity and violence --

we used to do non-violent civil disobedience. I remember one particularly effective action we took in 1970. We decided that if the government wouldn't stop the war, we'd stop the government. So one fine day, we did things like walk over the bridges going into DC, sit down and get arrested. (Dr. Benjamin Spock led the first group across the 14th Street Bridge for instance.) Right behind the first group to get arrested was a second and a third, etc. Others went out into intersections all over the city. Some of us stopped people going to their government jobs and handed out doughnuts -- I mean everyone stopped and chatted with us over doughnuts. Some people overturned busses and set them on fire or put up other obstructions. I remember one group called the Acid Commandos who had gas masks and baseball mitts and ran into the tear gas to catch tear gas canisters and threw them back at the cops. All sorts of guerrilla tactics. Thousands and thousands got arrested -- had to put them in the RFK stadium there were so many. There we refused to cooperate too -- wouldn't submit to fingerprinting or picture taking, etc. And you better believe the MSM took notice! That's what I mean by trouble. And as far as I remember there was no significant 'violence,' but there was an awful lot of non-compliance with the system!

Like the song from the civil rights song said:

It isn't nice to block the doorway


by Malvina Reynolds



It isn't nice to block the doorway
It isn't nice to go to jail
There are nicer ways to do it
But the nice ways always fail
It isn't nice, it isn't nice
You told us once, you told us twice
But if that is Freedom's price
We don't mind.


It isn't nice to carry banners
Or to sit in on the floor
Or to shout our cry of Freedom
At the hotel and the store
It isn't nice, it isn't nice
You told us once, you told us twice
But if that is Freedom's price
We don't mind.


We have tried negotiations
And the three-man picket line,
Mr. Charlie didn't see us
And he might as well be blind.
Now our new ways aren't nice
When we deal with men of ice,
But if that is Freedom's price
We don't mind.


How about those years of lynchings
And the shot in Evers' back?
Did you say it wasn't proper
Did you stand out on the track?
You were quiet just like mice
Now you say we aren't nice
But if that is Freedom's price
We don't mind.
http://www.ocap.ca/songs/itisntni.html

[SoCalDemGrrl]

54. I'm with you Emillereid !

[bemis12]

68. I don't see a call for violence

I see a call for protests, and taking to the street. Kind of like the many threads calling for the same on here.

So.... how does it show the differences between the parties?

[Emillereid]

70. Just imagine if the proverbial shoe were on the other foot so to speak

and the Republicans had lost the election under dubious circumstances, there's no doubt in my mind that a) George Bush would have rallied his supporters on the Capitol steps like Yushenko and drawn a line in the sand and b) there would be civil disobedience galore. The official democratic party response has been timid and muted at best (truth be told it's been non-existent) leaving the rest of us democrats to flail about leaderless, calling for protests that never materialize in any effective numbers. Unfortunately the ABB philosophy also dissipated much of the energy of the antiwar movement as well -- and it's going to take some time to re-group. See my post #51 to get some ideas of the kinds of non-violent but effective things we could be doing.

(I admit the title of the post misrepresents the actual article -- technically the repukes are just calling to take to the streets in protest, but I also think the DNC and the Washington democrats in general (save a few brave souls) have been spineless.

[sabra]

2. As I said an earlier thread, it's going to get Dirty! n/t

[texpatriot2004]

5. The nation now is extremely divided. If they want to go there

bring it on.

[KansDem]

10. "Bring it on..."

I don't know, texpatriot2004. We may be up against these people:

They shut down the recount in 2000.

Sure you want to take them on? :shrug:

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

14. I'll take the fat boy in the middle.

He get's to take the first swing. After that, it's my dance.

If I can't have him, gimme #8. I love taking down tall guys. Us short guys are built closer to good targets like balls and knees. ;-)

[EC]

23. I'll take the girl

in the glasses with the red dress. Never did like the way she looks anyway. I knew the martial arts lessons would come in handy some day...

[Blue State Blues]

48. Careful

She looks like a hair-puller.

[texpatriot2004]

17. Absolutely! Sometimes you have to fight for what you believe in

Generally, I am a non-violent, even passive person. Forgiving even. This issue has changed me. I think about it. I believe that there have been fights that were necessary. The American Revolution. The Civil War. I mean, they were the natural culmination of a conflict. Ideological differences, abuse of power, justice, equality, and more were part of those wars. I am anti-war, really, I detest what we are doing in Iraq. I am against WMDs and the repulsive weapons that my country (and others) continue to develop. Still, the human condition is as such that sometimes fighting is inevitable and, I think, honorable. The question has never been, for me, whether to fight or not, rather how to fight this battle. Information seems to be the first course of action. I am not advocating violence either. I just wonder if our country is not divided enough that this conflict could escalate? One thing though, I bet they have more weapons.

[Blue_In_AK]

20. Ewwwwwww...........

[Chimpanzee]

25. Kick em hard in the nuts, then when they bend over bob em hard

[AntiFascist]

33. From what I've heard about those people in the pic....

they were brought in from all around the country because they knew that Florida would be the focus of attention. The more confused they are, the better off we are.

[tavalon]

I'll take #7

for $100.

You guys know these people were just Republican employees, right, not the "average" voters they were proclaimed to be.

[KansDem]

39. Yeah, staff members of Congressional GOP...

As such, they should have an excellent dental plan, if you catch my drift... :evilgrin:

[Straight Shooter]

66. What? No people of color angry about the 2000 recount?

This pic says it all as to Little Boots' base. White, affluent, angry, preDOMINANTly male, yuppified.

[angrydemocrat]

28. texpatriot2004 -

I say if these asshole's want to take it there BRING IT THE HELL ON!
I'm sick of all these bastards acting like they own this damn country and it's their way or the highway attitudes. I say it is time to kick some freeper ass the old fashion Kerry style! I don't think these bastards want to start up a war like this because if they think Democrats will kiss their ass they gotta another thing coming. Hell with all the anger and rage that is built up in Democrats right now I think it would spell major eat shit and die ass kickens for the repukes! Most democrats are sick of being nice. They not the only one's that no how to fight! I'm not usually for violence but hell this shit has to stop somehow. These assholes can't be allowed to continue their bully ass tactics and get away with them.

[texpatriot2004]

31. I am sick of being nice and trampled on, that's for sure. I am

like you, not usually for violence but I am madashell and I am not going to sit by and let them cheat, lie, steal, etc for the rest of my life. NO, I say, hell NO!

[TexasChick]

57. My God! How beautifully said! I'm Christian, but as God is my witness,

I am sick of this shit from these people! I'm even willing to go to civil war if I have to to save this country from these people. They are the antithesis to Christ and God and I am sick of their bull. I say in the name of their precious simian, "Bring them On"! Man, I am sick of these people. Come on Washington Dems, kick their slimey, Repuketard asses! Don't put up with their crap anymore!

[texpatriot2004]

60. Me too, I am a Christian, and their behavior isn't Christian

They have attacked me on religion, on my values, my morality, my politics all the while lying, cheating, stealing, opposing good policy that makes sense for most people in America. I have had it. ENOUGH! If it takes a civil conflict than so be it.

[TexasChick]

61. Amen! In Texas, one would say something to the equivalent of:

"Thems fighten' words!" :hi:

[texpatriot2004]

63. Yep!

:hi:

[godel escher bach]

6. I see nothing in the text that indicates violence, but OK, I guess.

Maybe I missed something.

[phantomvotes]

11. Third paragragh copy and paste

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002118808_recount14m.html

Republicans are now "absolutely convinced that King County is trying to steal this election," said Republican Party Chairman Chris Vance.

"There are Republicans urging us to organize mass protests, to take to the streets," Vance said. "At some point people's patience just runs out."

[godel escher bach]

18. Sorry, my dictionary is outdated...

Convinced election was stolen...
Organizing...protests...
Taking to the streets...
Impatience...

There are hundreds of posts right here on DU that talk of stolen elections, organizing protests and marching in the streets. I bet that some DU'rs are even impatient.

Sorry, still don't see any violence, but carry on.

Thanks.

[Old and In the Way]

27. Have you ever seen a Republican mass protest?

Neither have I. After you take out the porta-pottie guards, that leaves precious few for the protest. The Right is all bluster, no bite.

[seito]

56. Agreed

They can't even find real protesters. They have to hire them and ship them in. We can do MUCH better than that.

[oneold1-4u]

9. Violence?

Be sure to remember that the repubs. along with bush. will always sneak in the back way and then show all others as violent. They have been using the back door to get in every American door for more than four years, so they are well practiced at it. We must be more cunning than the fox to remain aloof from these predators.

[NVMojo]

13. of course they are a violent party, look at all the armchair warriors

cheering on our troops to keep muslim ass over there in Iraq...

[genieroze]

15. How Christian of them. eom

[phantomvotes]

24. Just remember what they are really doing with these shenanigans

The Republicans will deliberately create civil disorder in order to argue against completing the recount and the media will be the vehicle of the false propaganda. If the false creation of civil disorder doasn't work then they get real dirty. Some of the same techniques they use in
creating coups angainst small countries and tactics they used in Florida election 2000.

:hippie:

[genieroze]

43. I say we get louder and bigger then.

Then we will have the news media covering us for once.

[Broken Acorn]

16. Damn, wish I was still living in Portland

I would take on all those jokers by myself.

[Kellis]

19. I hope people in the area are on this.

I hope that people living there know what is going on.Im thinking we need to email somebody.Get an official who lives there to start organizing.NOW.
Who lives in Washington that can oragnaize something-official or not? We need to have a counter "riot" to these fuckers.

[Carolab]

21. I'm with Kos on this...

You need at least a hundred REALLY SCARY PEOPLE on call, so when the 'Phants show up, they aren't confronted by some Milquetoast saying, "Can't we all just get along?"

I'm talking Teamsters, longshoremen, bikers with sleeveless jackets and tattoos.

C'mon where are the MEAN Democrats? Anyone know anyone in the area that they can mobilize? Get a bunch of hardasses together?

[Chimpanzee]

29. You could probably get a bunch of scary bikers just with free beer

[McCamy Taylor]

22. stop the recount with a 42 vote spread? i think not

[bush_is_wacko]

26. Now is when Dean...

Or some other prominent Dem (Kerry perhaps?) should get out and say. "The Democratic Party and MANY grassroots campaigns have been working PEACEFULLY on this matter since November 2nd. There is NO REASON why the Republican Party cannot follow OUR lead and conduct investigations in a PEACEFUL manner that does not promote civil UPHEAVAL/DISOBEDIENCE!"

[freeplessinseattle]

30. most duer's aren't violent and don't see a hint of violence in the

article, that's why this thread has so few replies. not going to get us riled up and taint our pacifist rep, not going to happen! nice try, tho;)

[Kellis]

32. No need for Violence

I agree.But there is a need to counter the attack on Democracy and the Re Count.
This is exactly what happened in Florida 2000 and resulted in the appointment of the chimp.

[phantomvotes]

34. The Seatle Times calls The Green and Libitarian Parties

The Green and Libitarian Parties DISSEDENTS.

(Last paragraph)

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2002118804_ohio14.html

Led by a coalition representing the Green and Libertarian parties, the dissidents are also paying for recounts in each of Ohio's 88 counties that begin this week.


The Seatle times wrote both of these articles.

[Hobbes199]

35. No way.

Remember the WTO?

[Broken Acorn]

37. I got arrested at the WTO

Thousands of democratic protesters in the streets.

It was awesome!

People in Seattle won't let Repuke fake protesters do this. Trust me, I still have lots of friends there.

[Hobbes199]

52. Precisely.

Dem protestors would overwhelm them in easy numbers.

[madison2000]

36. Reps don't do protests or rallies- they just throw money at things.

Gathering in public is "beneath" them.

[demo dutch]

40. Oh yes they do!!! You should have seen the intimidation

going on during the Miami recount. The BOE caved in!!!
They do it well and get coverage by the MSM. It drives me crazy, we're toooo damn nice and tooo polite!

[madison2000]

47. I remember that now, it was pretty scary

not like any protest or rally I've been to!

[demo dutch]

38. Once again they're beating everyone to the punch!

My question is this. If Kerry was pronounced the winner on Nov. 3rd do you really think that the repubs would not have demonstrated!! My point is that we're tooooo nice and polite!!!! I drives me crazy, because they always manage to get the media coverage!

[texpatriot2004]

49. I think that the FRaudies will have plenty of opposition there

[gizmo1979]

41. BRING IT ON

Let those bastards try they want violence they'll get more than they bargained for!!I've been just waiting for a repug to give me a reason.Just one little reason!!!

[pointsoflight]

42. Bring those fuckers on.

[phantomvotes]

46. SEATTLE TIMES propaganda

The republicans at the Seattle Times are starting this. Two articles today to intise protests:



The Green and Libertarian Parties DISSIDENTS.

(Last paragraph)
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/20021188...


"There are Republicans urging us to organize mass protests, to take to the streets," Vance said.

(Third paragraph)
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002118...

[Broken Acorn]

44. Fuck the repub bastards

Seriously, how much fun would it be to kick the sh*t out of those phonies. I would definitely fell better afterwards.

I say bring it on too. We outnumber them, especially in Seattle, and people up there won't stand for that shit.

[Kellis]

50. Good to know that.

I have seen news of how tough Seattle is.They rock.Im glad the "Fraudies"(love that term)will have them to go up against.

FLorida 2000 CANNOT happen again without us fighting back.

[Gary173]

45. "All they understand is force."

So it was said of Al Queda, Iraq, and now the Democratic Party. If at this time our elected officials do not stand with a unified party, the unified party must choose new leaders sans politics and not surrender to the forces of occupation which now rule this country illegally.

[SoCalDemGrrl]

53. Bring it on--there are more of us!!

[SoCalDemGrrl]

55. Our democracy is worth fighting for...

[Gregorian]

58. They'd rather have AWOL?

They'd rather have a traitor?
And Kerry is such a better president. That's the honest truth. So what is it about repubs that they'd rather have someone who was literally AWOL? Too much Fox? Genes? Just plain assholes? Troublemakers?

Why?

What is wrong with republicans? Are they human? I'm at a loss. I suppose the first answer to these questions is that they are not all the same. In fact, some might not want to fight over this. But still, there are some very strange people in this country. I suppose it's no different than fighting in the 1800's FOR slavery, even if they didn't even have slaves. Go figure...

[Old Mouse]

59. Lets get this over with n/t

[stepnw1f]

62. Is This Supposed Scare People?

Don't believe this shit and just... too chicken shit to play straight=too chicken shit to follow through on this, believe me!

I call their bluff.

[GetTheRightVote]

64. They have not seen angry until I get into their face, it is time to stick

it back right at them, I am sick of their mean and cruel behavior. They have got to go and that is that, time to react and show them the Dems put actions into their words, lets roll !!!!!!!!!

[texpatriot2004]

65. kick those FRaudies in the a**

[Daybreaker]

67. Republican Demonstrations

This totally works in our favor. The Republicans are suddenly upset about election fraud and they're taking to the streets to shout about it! What could possibly be better than this? Suddenly they're doing our work for us!

Not that anyone will know they're Republicans without sheets. People driving by the demonstration will probably think it's us out there.