THIS 4 WEEK OLD VIDEO OF JOHN KERRY'S IS MAKING MORE SENSE TODAY

[mary195149]

As days go by, this video that John Kerry made a couple of weeks after the election seems to have more meaning. It sure seems like it is falling in place with our efforts of today. It would be great if we all take time and listen to this once and again and tell each other what we are picking up from his speech. I do believe it is packed with info if we just listen closely.

http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/everychild.php

[Broken Acorn]

1. Yes, the whole "Regardless of the outcome of this election"...

and goes on about fighting for trasnperancy for voting.

He knew the fraud was in way before we did.

[Griffy]

13. That link got me started on the fraud issue... it is up to US!

Kerry might know he has to lose the election, in the end, to save democracy! Of course I'm still all about Kerry in office .. so be in DC on the 6th!

[malatesta1137]

18. up to us??

we gave him all the support on Nov 2, plus all the effort and time that some of us, including me, put on before the elections.

now it's UP TO KERRY to show courage and determination.

[mattclearing]

25. You keep on with this.

I've been watching you complain about Kerry for the past month or so. This strategy of his has kept him out of the media crosshairs, and has denied the Sore-Loserman strategy its teeth.

When he does come out swinging on the vote fraud issue, it will be because he has irrefutable proof of wrongdoing sufficient to swing the election. Until he has that, any grand statement is going to look foolish.

People should stop worrying about what John Kerry isn't doing, because every time he has had to do something, he has. Just because he is keeping a low profile doesn't mean he isn't on the case.

Have some faith in the guy.

[txindy]

46. Very well said

[pacalo]

33. He's saying it's up to us to speak out to Congress

& to pressure them to act in our interests.

He's asking for our help, that we don't walk away. When you read between the lines of what he said in the video, I feel confident that he's definitely working on the election fraud & doesn't want us to give up:

Your efforts count now more than ever.

(snip)

Regardless of the outcome of this election, once all the votes are counted -- and believe me, they WILL be counted -- we will continue to challenge this administration.

This is not a time for Democrats to retreat & accomodate extremists on critical principles. It is a time to stand firm.

I'm going to fight for national standards for federal elections. Standards that have both transparency & accountability in our voting system. It's unacceptable in the United States of America that people still don't have full confidence in the integrity of the voting process. I ask you to join me in this cause.

(snip)

They want you to disappear. They're counting on that. And I'm confident that you're gonna prove them wrong, and together, we're going to re-write history again.

(snip)

I am determined to make our collective energy & organization a force to be reckoned with in the weeks & months ahead. So let's roll up our sleeves. Let's get back to work for our country, for our future. I look forward to working with you, and together, we are going to change history.

I'm with you, John.

[googly]

55. Kerry can not UNflip his concession without being called the worst

flip-flopper politician. He doe not wish to go there. Why is that so hard to understand. He is depending on OTHERS to find evidence of fraud. He can not start questioning the results of the election without first unconceding the results. It is so straight forward.

[New Earth]

56. i think you are right

they (Bush camp) pretty much have him cornered now into this 'flip flop' bullshit. he can't unconcede, it will ruin the entire process.

[Samantha]

68. Think again about what you are saying

You are worried about what the opposition, that's the opposition that you feel STOLE an election, will think about the impropriety of retracting a concession. Think about that again.

Another point to think about is that a concession is not legally binding. Theft of an election is a criminal felony. You are thinking Kerry should not risk a political impropriety to thwart a possible criminal felony. I wouldn't give that a second thought, if I were you.

[googly]

77. No, I don't give a rats ass about what repugs think, its the voters

who read and view MSM is what I am talking about. And you know the repugs will yell out "flip-flop" and the MSM will eat it up like a whore.

[New Earth]

78. lol exxactly

lollll

[moesse]

86. They yell flip-flop, we'll yell Fraud and Bloodless Coup!

which do you think sounds more egregious?

[seito]

2. "your efforts count NOW more than ever" n/t

[Helga Scow Stern]

3. I agree. n/t

[RaulVB]

4. We got the message on that video...

But is just too "subtle."

The American people understand direct messages.

[Broken Acorn]

6. Well, the American people are dumb, but so is the MSM

Kerry was defintely talking to us informed people. I firmly believe that.

[RaulVB]

7. Yes, but...

That "dumb people" will give legitimacy to Kerry's plea, if he makes one!

[Broken Acorn]

9. Looking back now, only KO reported the video

and he seemed to understand the message it was saying, just as we do.

[zann725]

8. He wasn't talking to the general public. He was talking to his 'base.'

...those he knew would understand, and take action.

It's all moving according to plan, it seems.

[seito]

12. That is absolutely true

The messages have been there all along, for those that are listening. Do you recall that in a speech he gave to supporters in Iowa on his birthday me mentioned that he wanted 55,000 more votes in Ohio for a birthday present.

What is up with that? Those are not off the cuff remarks. If thought it was "all over" and he was "in on the fix" why even mention something like that?

John Kerry may not win this election. I would LOVE to see that happen, but I would settle for taking down the BFEE and saving Democracy.

The he evil doers are going down "and together we are going to change history"

[SaveAmerica]

14. What is BFEE? tia n/t

[seito]

17. Bush Family Evil Empire n/t

[pacalo]

34. I find it refreshing that he doesn't underestimate our intelligence.

He doesn't have to dumb down for us. We get it.

[seito]

61. lol!!!

You are right, I never thought about it that way :)

[mary195149]

63. You're right, Kerry talks to us intelligently,

not like the bush&co still confusing the repubs about sadam having weapons of mass destruction.

[Ellipsis]

5. yes it is isn't

"sooner then you think"

being the operative phrase. I remember when he said it on Nov. 3

k

[ginnyinWI]

11. is there a transcript anywhere? I'd really like to study it. n/t

[stlsaxman]

89. Kerry campaign sent out a letter with the speech word for word...

go to johnkerry.com and look for it.

[mdb]

10. And here are a few questions to ask yourself.

Do you think shrub sat back on the sidelines in 2000?

Do you think shrub would sit back in 2004 if he was in the same situation?

Do you think the Repubs are sitting back over Ukraine?

One more... in relation to the affect of this. Do you think shrub worries about whether this would hurt him or the party?

[seito]

16. Here are some more questions...

Do you think that the media was fair to Gore in 2000?

Do you think that his tactics accomplished ANYTHING in the way of preventing election fraud 2004?

Do you think that we would be where we are now, at the edge of exposing the most massive conspiracy of election fraud in our nation's history, if Kerry had "Gored" himself on Nov 3rd?


No Retreat No Surrender

[mdb]

26. Is the media fair now?

Whatever happened in 2000 it is obvious Florida went from punch-cards to e-voting. How e-voting went to fraud well maybe you can ask Clint Curtis and Feeney.

Question 3. Yes. The only difference in Kerry being on the sidelines and not is the media will have brought this fraud to the forefront.

Gored? The courts Gored Gore more than anything else, if I'm correct.

[LittleClarkie]

44. The media is suddenly on our side? When did that happen?

Interesting question: Do I think Bush would have stayed quiet.

Well, it's alittle strange asking the same questions about the perpetrator in one election, and the victim in another. Which has the power, then and now, and which does not.

Kerry is still the only Senator I hear talking this way. Others are talking about what went wrong, what we need to do, who we need to make nice with and the like. Kerry's talking about fighting.

Even when we get what we ask for, if it doesn't come to us in the exact color wrapping paper we wanted, we reject it. Trouble is, we all want a different color. Meow... fttt... fttttt!

[pacalo]

35. No -- the shrub went directly to Scalia's (wink, wink) Supreme Court

in 2000. If Kerry had reacted immediately, the shrub would have run back to Scalia & gotten the same results with no recourse. Staying on the state level -- a state with obvious corrupted officials -- was the best course to take. Look at all the discrepancies unfolding before our eyes. Before it's all done, there will be too many fraud issues for ANYONE to ignore.

[okieinpain]

15. hey, good speech. but if he want's my vote, I want something in

return. Dean at the DNC, not the same old sh**.

[mary195149]

19. John Kerry keeps repeating that we have the strength,

All through the video he is letting us know we, the american people are the ones that have the POWER to change things. He is also letting us know that together we will change history.
I think he is counting on our voice to be heard loud and clear and to trust him that he is doing everything he can.

[politicasista]

20. Can you convince the non-believers that he is doing just that?

[Jo March]

21. Don't waste your time. We need to focus our energy on

the fight now. I'd love to have people stop bashing Kerry but it won't happen. I just hunker down and try to focus on the tasks at hand.

[seito]

23. What would you have him do?

The litigation is going on. THERE IS A CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE.

Can't you see it?? Can't you hear it??? Who, besides the House Democrats, Jesse Jackson and the GLIBS are saying anything????????

That should tell you something. They do not want the media involved yet. All the heroes, such as Howard Dean, Wes Clark, Sharpton, etc. Where are they??????

We, the people, are so much stronger than John Kerry alone. If he stands up without the proof in hand we get gored right along side him. There is proof, I know it. It will come out in court and the bad guys are going to go down.

John Kerry's message to us is that we need to stick together and we need to fight. If we want to win, we must THINK. In that message he was talking to us and telling us that he is in this fight and he has our back. EVERY time the effort meets a road block the Kerry camp is right there. And then a few hours later out come all of the reports of "inaction"

OMG WHY DOES HE HAVE TO BE ON TV FOR PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON???????????

Sorry for the rant, but this is getting a tad ridiculous.

No Retreat No Surrender


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[mary195149]

27. If John Kerry really thought it was over,

he would have come out and thanked us for all our hard efforts, but,it is time to move on. He is not doing this. He is counting on us to FIGHT as hard as we can. Let's play this out. We can make the difference and I believe this is what democracy is all about. This country belongs to the american people, not the bushie's elite or base. The bushies are trying to take our freedom from us and only we can save our country.

[Dolphyn]

38. Conspiracy of Silence

Conspiracy of silence, the enemy within
Complacency and arrogance make us think we cannot win
Make us think that the battle has been won
But the thunder in the distance
Says it's only just begun ...

-- Michael Callen, "Living in Wartime"

That just popped into my head when I read the post above, and the lyrics seemed appropriate ...
(complete lyrics)

[txindy]

50. seito, you've nailed it

All the reports of "inaction" come flying out because the wingnuts can't attack JK publicly. By staying out of the fray publicly, he doesn't give them a target. That irks them no end. They're trying to goad him into doing something prematurely. They're trying to demoralize us into denouncing him. In effect, they're trying to make the sun rise in the west.

It ain't happenin'. But let's thank them for playing, 'Stump That Moran.'

Thanks!

[seito]

62. ROFLMAO txindy

All I can say is :yourock:

IT IS NOT WORKING!!!!! CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?????? We are not going anywhere!!!!!!!


No Retreat No Surrender

[moesse]

87. Arnebeck said much the same thing on RRhodes, it's up to the people n/t

[AmerDem]

22. I have no interest in watching that vid

Let Kerry put actions behind his words. I want our election system revamped to make it honest and accountable. Kerry has no desire to fight this fight...it shows. We take make our hijacked election system we take back our country with candidates that share the same ideas we have.

[LittleClarkie]

45. Horsehockey.

He's done what he said he'd do so far. Please tell me you didn't expect the election system to be revamped to make it honest and accountable before the inaugeration, did you? Insta-reform -- add water and mix?

If Kerry had no desire to fight this fight, he wouldn't be involved. At all.

[AmerDem]

52. No, not before the inauguration

and he hasn't done what he said he would do. During the campaign he said he would fight for every vote and to make sure every vote was counted. Everyone else has been fighting for every vote, Conyers, Jackson, Cobb and Arnebeck. Kerry has release two letters that really do nothing. I take it as a sad attempt to save face. I'm at a point in all of this where I don't want to hear about anymore theories of why he's so quiet. Everyone will respect a person willing to yell out load about the fraud taking place. We need a leader willing to speak out without worry on how it will effect the behind the scenes Washington attitude. Thats' their world not everyday America. Enough is enough.

Do you know how much money, time and effort I ( and many many others) put into this last election? We deserve better then what we were given.

[seito]

60. You will feel much better

when the indictments start flowing in and people are hauled out of their offices in handcuffs.

[AmerDem]

66. I know now that will happen

and the record will show Kerry didn't do much to help it along!

[LittleClarkie]

64. Released two letters and...

Surely you know there's more.

Released two letters and......

Come on. You can do it.

[AmerDem]

67. why don't you fill in your own sentence.

I'm not about to play guessing games.


BTW, I was one of the very first Clark supporters. Long before a movement started, I wrote the man asking him to think about running.

[LittleClarkie]

71. Okay, but only this once.

Next time you can do your own research.

Two little letters my Aunt Fanny.

Kerry Campaign Lawyers Checking Ohio Vote
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/111204I.shtml

Kerry Campaign Scrutinizes Ohio: Checks provisional ballots, other issues
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/111404Y.shtml

Jesse Jackson Demands Ohio Presidential Recount, Blasts GOP Election Officials, and Says Kerry Supports the Process
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/113004Y.shtml

Kerry Team Seeks to Join Fight to Get Ohio County to Recount
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/120204X.shtml

Kerry Lawyer Seeks Ohio Ballot Inspection
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/121404W.shtml

American Democracy Hangs by a Thread in Ohio
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/121704Z.shtml

"Rev. Jesse Jackson told the congressmen that over the weekend he had spoken to John Kerry, who has since sent a letter to each of the state's 88 county election boards, saying he supported three areas of inquiry in the recount. Jackson said Kerry wanted "forensic computer experts" to examine voting machines, especially those using optical scan technology, because in other states, notably New Mexico, Bush had won all the precincts with that voting system in place. Kerry also wanted to examine 92,000 ballots that recorded no vote for president, and 155,000 provisional ballots that were rejected."


Kerry backs recount effort in governor's race

By CHRIS McGANN
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER CAPITOL CORRESPONDENT

OLYMPIA -- Former presidential candidate John Kerry contributed at least $200,000 of unused campaign contributions yesterday to help fellow Democrat Christine Gregoire keep the governor's race alive and pay for a statewide hand recount.

"John Kerry really came to our rescue," said state Democratic Party Chairman Paul Berendt. "But our ability to pay for a statewide recount is still subject to money which is not in. ... We are working to move heaven and earth to get all of the money we need."

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/201970_governor02.html

Also, from the AP:
Kerry gives money to support Democrats

"Kerry also wired $50,000 to Louisiana, where Democrats are running in two run-off races in contests where no candidate won a majority in last month's election."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4655449,00.html

[New Earth]

72. thank you

thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you

[saracat]

84. And don't forget last Wed petition on the Dec.10th vote tampering!

And a lot of these issues did hit AP and other MSM news sources! Kerry's attorneys are actively filing petions. He and Edwardss are parties to the lawsuit. What more does anyone want? Sheesh ,all these people complain that Kerry does nothing and when he does something , they still say i'ts nothing.

[AmerDem]

91. I do my own research

Hence why I made those comments. Everything Kerry has done was because of people like Jackson and now Cobb calling him out publicly. It was said by many people (talking heads etc)that after the election results came in Kerry and his team chose to conceed even after Edwards came out hours before saying they would fight every vote. Apparently there was alot of arguing between the two and Kerry being the presidental candidate won out. I just love the way you provide links to Kerry giving money to the effort. I'd think you would also provide links showing how many in the Dem. party were pissed that Kerry had multiple millions of dollars left in their acccount while other Dem. through out the country needed funds. Once again Kerry didn't start giving away some of this money until he was called out.

I'm not here to play tit for tat with a poster bucking for a trash talk.

[LittleClarkie]

94. You asked me to complete my sentence and I did

I fail to see how that is "bucking for a trash talk." You presented an erroneous claim, that he'd only presented two letters, even though there has been plenty of evidence to the contrary. I pointed out the other things he's done. So now the point is not that he didn't do them, but that he didn't do them until he was pressured. Alrighty then, the new assertion gets a new rebuttal.

Yours is at best an opinion based on things that happened chronologically. It is a fallacy to assume that because things happen in a certain order, that they are cause and effect. In each case, Kerry was told about a problem and approved doing something about it using the resources at hand. That much we know for sure.

What we don't know is why he's doing it. He might have acted with the pressure, or not. If somebody is pushing you to do something that you were going to do anyway, he might claim that you only did the thing because of that pressure. It might even look like that from the outside. But it is merely conjecture on our part to claim one or the other. Without knowing more than either of us knows, neither opinion is any more valid than the other.

So far, Kerry has provided aid exactly when it was needed to keep the process going and not before. Is the recount stalled because of lack of funds. No. If it were, Kerry would have given funds. It was stalled because of the court proceedings. Did Kerry jump into there proceedings then. Yes he did, unstalling the process.

When funds would do some good, that is what was given. When in Washington a recount wasn't going to proceed because of lack of funding, Kerry was there. And know it looks as if the Dem may just win now. Damn that Kerry. Crucify him!

So yesterday Cobb told us something we already knew, which was exactly how much Kerry is involved in the Ohio recount. And yet some of us acted surprised. Cobb is upset that Kerry isn't doing more. Others here express the same opinion. Again, not new, and again, the opinion isn't any more valid or invalid just because Cobb is the one expressing it.

(aside: I honor Edwards opinion. He may have argued for a certain action, but I don't think he left the process angry at Kerry. Quite the contrary, 9 times out of 10 when I've heard him open his mouth on the subject of Kerry, the words were so sincerely praiseful that I ended up in tears. Sometimes Edwards doesn't sound terribly sincere to my ears when he speechifies, so when he spoke about Kerry during his farewell speech in the Senate, I noticed the difference.

And Edwards is still the political pup at this point, so I will take Kerry's judgement over Edwards in this case. Bad timing to fight publicly, and uphill all the way with the apparent gap in the popular vote. Gore had a better situation by far, and even he didn't come out ahead. There was no telling how much fraud there was on Nov. 3. The only concrete thing they had was the provisionals. And they weren't going to produce enough votes. I look to the hearings and to the Arnebeck lawsuit for ultimate relief, not what the campaign had in hand on Nov. 3. But I digress.)

As for the excess fundage, well, the fat lady hasn't sung yet, so we don't know what Kerry's final total will end up being after he's done paying for recounts, campaign bills, and such. We were told that Kerry planned to keep the money from his campaign. Some have said that was the 15 mill. he had left over from the primaries, money he couldn't spend once they were over.

Some have said it's as much as 40 million or more (the reported number keeps changing -- so I'm still waiting to see something definitive). Apparently, the money from the recount fund is being counted into the amount in these higher totals. Once again, fat lady hasn't sung yet, so saying Kerry has this money "left over" is premature.

The main name I've seen associated with this criticism is Donna Brazille, the former campaign manager of Al Gore. Al Gore's campaign, from what I've read, was high on pandering and low on grassroots. He was working to get himself elected, but not really any of the other Dems. If there are reports to the contrary, I'd like to see them, and then I will revise my opinion thusly.

(aside: I read one story where he came into Mass. and bogarted credit for legislation to help Mass. fishermen, legislation that had actually come from work done by Mass. activists and John Kerry. I wonder how much bad blood was already evident between these camps. But I digress again.)

So that was reportedly Al's campaign. Kerry, on the other hand, gave lots to other Dems. Without going and looking up the particulars, he gave more than any presidential candidate has given for local campaigns, and in one case, the first donation ever given by a presidential campaign. With that kind of track record, I chose to believe that the money Kerry had left over would have gone exactly where it's now going, even without pressure.

What I don't know is exactly WHO said otherwise. The only name I've seen so far has been Donna's, and I don't know her motivation. She might be "for Al in 08" and therefore "against Kerry in 08." Or she might be just too damn close to Karl Rove and too damned admiring of Condi Rice for my tastes. At any rate, if she is what the media chooses to call the Dem spokesperson in this case, I'm not sure I want to take her word for much of anything.

Others here who say they know more about how campaigns work say that this is a non-issue, that it was way too soon to call out John Kerry, and rather hypocritical especially coming from the manager of a campaign that had about 8 million left over, a campaign that did considerably less than Kerry's did to help fellow Dems, according to some reports.

One other point I wanted to make. Kerry was chosen to go against Bush, according to one article I read from the campaign, because he was the careful, cautious, steady electable candidate. Some people are now expressing dismay that he's not coming out, guns blazing, doing a Howard Dean impersonation. Well, we didn't choose "guns blazing." We chose "careful and steady," and that's the performance we're getting.

David Banner is back. If Kerry ever gets sufficiently angry at these people, the Hulk may re-emerge. Jury's still out on whether that's gonna happen anytime soon. But something tells me the Hulk wasn't the one who took 4 years to bring down BCCI. Mr. Slow and Steady was. Don't count him out, but don't expect anything right away either.

(congratulations if you made it down this far. Long-winded little thing, ain't I)

[AmerDem]

95. I'm not wasting my time reading your endless rant

I asked you rhetorically to fill in your sentence because you sarcastically inferred that there is this well documented evidence that Kerry bent over backwards to help the voting fraud cause.He did nothing until being called out! Now go and play smart ass with someone else.

[LittleClarkie]

96. Probably a bit sarcastic yes,

Sorry about that. Getting a bit testy these days. Haven't slept properly in weeks.

Well-documented, yes. I documented it. Hence...

Bent over backwards? Nah. Present. Yes. Mostly I meant to infer that his involvement included more than two letters, as you suggested.

Called out? (Shrug) He's doing something. Whether or not it was because he was called out, I don't know. Even so, he didn't have to. Could have skipped the entire thing. He didn't.

Smartass? No. Rant? Also, no. If you would have read my epistle, you might have found that it was a discussion. Thought it was rather spiffy myself. I took the time to write out my thoughts and the facts as I knew them in the most even-handed way I could. Hopefully someone took the time, and got something out of it.

We don't get to pick our heros. Mister Slow and Steady is what we nominated. We didn't nominate the sports car. We nominated the station wagon. Oh, he occasionally might transform into a racer, but most days not.

He's what we have, and he's talking tougher at the moment than most Dems. I feel badly for the disenfranchised. I wish he could come out just for them. But I will understand if he can't. Having studied the man for a while, I think he will do something. Just not exactly what and exactly when people may want him to. Hopefully, I'm right. I know, if you actually were reading this, you'd agree that you'd be happy to be wrong. I'm rather banking on it.

[catgirl]

92. We do deserve better, but don't blame Kerry

Blame the criminals who stole the election for cripes sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[seito]

59. Thank you LittleClarkie

I am holding my biggest hope for the very public demise of the * Family Evil Empire. May he leave office in disgrace sooner rather than later.

See ya little chimp. :hi:

[BlueOhio]

24. here is a question to ask yourself,

if kerry has given up, if its really over, why is he still paying for the bandwidth on johnkerry.com think about that.

never give up, never surrender... ok what movie is that from??


John, we still got your back!!!

[RevCheesehead]

48. Galaxy Quest n/t

[shiina]

28. What's the date of this?

Wow, this *is* interesting.

He made some really strong statements. Maybe some of those people who think he's working in the background are right. He would feel safer making a strong message on the internet than anywhere else. Hmmm...

Why would he talk about that election stuff in a video about health care for children? Because he thought that would get the most people watching it?

[mary195149]

30. I believe the date was 11/19/2004

[k8conant]

29. "Together we are going to change history"--John Kerry

and we are "a force to be reckoned with". I will keep on keeping on.

:dem: :argh:

[shiina]

31. partial transcript

Here's the first half, where he talks about elections.

"I want to personally thank you for what you did in this past election. You re-wrote the book on grassroots politics - taking control of campaigns away from big donors. No campaign will ever be the same, or we certainly hope so. You moved voters, helped hold George Bush accountable and countered the attacks from big news organizations such as FOX, Sinclair Broadcasting, and conservative talk radio. And your efforts count now more than ever. Despite the words of cooperation and moderate-sounding promises, this administration is planning a right-wing assault on values and ideals that we hold most deeply. Healthy debate and diverse opinion are being eliminated from the State Department and CIA. And the Cabinet is being remade to rubber stamp policies that will undermine Social Security, balloon the deficit, avoid real reforms in health care and education, weaken Homeland Security and walk away from critical allies around the world.

Regardless of the outcome of this election, once all the votes are counted - and believe me, they will be counted – we will continue to challenge this administration. This is not a time for Democrats to retreat and accommodate extremists on critical principles. It is a time to stand firm. I'm going to fight for national standards for federal elections – standards that have both transparency and accountability in our voting system. It's unacceptable, in the United States of America, that people still don't have full confidence in the integrity of the voting process. I ask you to join me in this cause.

And we must fight not only against George Bush's extremist policies, we also have to fight to uphold our own values..."

(He then goes on to talk about his bill to give every child health insurance. Up to here is about half of the video)

[mary195149]

32. thanks for doing that, it helps to read it. n/t

[Carolab]

36. Wouldja just STOP it PLEASE?

Nader TWICE challenged Kerry to "come out".

Cobb came right out and said Kerry is OBSTRUCTING the process and SO DID BEV.

WAKE UP!

[politicasista]

37. How do you know?

Are you reading Kerry's mind?

[Carolab]

39. Actions

speak louder than thoughts

[politicasista]

40. You sound like you are losing your patience

Had Kerry won, this whole fraud issue would be mute.

[ClassWarrior]

43. Don't you mean, "Had Bush** not stolen it again?..."

Kerry DID win, didn't he, "sistahhh?"

NGU.

[txindy]

54. I can think of a few things that should be "mute."

Not that that'll happen, more's the pity.

[BamaBecky]

42. Help me wake up, what do you think is going on? n/t

[LittleClarkie]

76. Smear Boat money taker Nader and Nixonian paranoia Harris

can both kiss my shiney metal ass.

Cobb... I don't know what Cobb's angle is yet. I need to go and read articles about him to see if he is generally thought to be credible.

Or this could all be psy ops because we're getting close to the fraud and someone is trying to tear us apart. Just thinkin' out loud...

[liberalpragmatist]

80. And I see nothing from those guys but unsupported allegations

Where is the proof that Kerry is actually obstructing the process? They seem to think that Kerry can do things that he cannot - that he can summon up the power of half the country at his whim and with the wave of his hand conjure up hundreds of thousands of missing votes and instances of fraud.

I see nothing that dissuades me from the view that Cobb and Nader are now using this as an opportunity to divide the Democratic base and siphon off support by creating a wedge.

[saracat]

85. Oh and Bev is credible?

as is Nader? As far as Cobb goes,he wants money." Kerry gave not a dime" ? I ask again? To whom should Kerry give this money? He can't contribute to another party. Cobb is a Green. Cobb and the Lib have to pay for themselves in this action as do K/E. And as far as I can see, Kand E are paying their own legal costs.

[catgirl]

93. Oh ya, Nader who helped Bush in both elections.

He's not exactly the kind of strategist that helps rid the Bush idiots. Thank goodness Kerry stays on his own track. We do want him to stay credible.

[BamaBecky]

41. You are right, that does help us focus! n/t

[Cha]

47. That was sooo Good! I really

needed to see it again..at this time! Thank you, Mary!

[Der Blaue Engel]

49. This tiny print on the webpage has always struck me as interesting:

"We may provide your contact information to Democratic organizers
in your region who will tell you about local volunteer opportunities."

Does anyone know if this is standard language for this sort of thing? It seems odd to put that as a notice below "sign-up to co-sponsor a bill."

Am I completely loopy off the deep end to think it's a message of some kind? If you sign up, will you get "the call" when the time comes to move?

Eh, I probably just need to adjust my hat. :tinfoilhat:

[SueZhope]

69. you might get "the call"

asking for a few more $$$$....:shrug:

[European Socialist]

51. why do we need to read between the lines.

Kerry needs to show disgust with fraud. Where is the risk in telling the parts that are already known and the fact that all of it goes against him?

[seito]

81. See LittleClarkie's post 71

We have come so far. The tactics are working. The fraud is being exposed. Kerry IS disgusted with the fraud. It is very evident from both the video,and his subsequent actions. He will speak out more publicly on it when the time is right.

[livvy]

53. This really does take on a different tone when viewed now.

It does seem to hold much more of a message than it did when I first viewed it. It almost seems as if the part about the health care is a diversion from the true message. If someone heard it who was not a part of the Kerry base, that is the message they would hear, and it's a good message. Your basic supporter would approve, and feel good that Kerry was still going to work towards improving health care. But to the hard core base, those of us who worked really hard during the campaign, believe in Kerry, and know what a danger *&Co. are to this country, there very well could be another message. At any rate, I'm not willing to give up. I refuse to quietly and meekly slip into accepting * and his hideous agenda. If Kerry was asking for us to keep up the good fight, I'm more than happy to oblige.

[mary195149]

58. well said!! n/t

[bunny planet]

57. I've always thought it was telling that he mentions working together to

change history 'in the weeks and months ahead', not years.
EEEEEEEEEnteresting, n'est pas?

[jsascj]

65. Something I've noticed too is

That ,While we haven't seen Kerry lately, John Edwards has been popping up here and there and everywhere. I know I've seen 2 or 3 interviews.

Wonder if this isn't just to keep reminding people that they are still 'around'. Edwards is the natural 'be out there connecting with the people' guy. He does it so well.

Just a thought.

[vlad]

70. We must fight them on our terms

Or lose every effort, every time. We cannot be reactionists and win with these people. We saw that for 4 years.
We fight this war on OUR terms. The script written by us, and on our time and terms. Otherwise its a lopsided battle. It's always trying to climb a mountain, while they keep kicking us down. They expend little energy while we take blow after blow.
We are initiating and proving fraud on our own.
If we prove this, they are on the defensive...and hopefully falling off their mountain on their own. We should never respond, I think, to their charges or insatiable appetite for a false reality.
Facts are things that are immutable and stubborn - and they are NOT on their side.

Sorry, I haven't written up my profile yet.. new DUer.
I hope some of that made sense (above).

[sundancekid]

73. thanx for the post ... it's really a DUH! moment that we should have

caught long ago and far away ... I wish people would be FAR MORE strategic in their thinking and analyses here at DU, rathen than just knee jerk, engage-mouth before engaging brain sometimes ...
think CHESS GAME and it would ALL make complete sense

[moesse]

88. Remember his background, his awareness that "this is the crookedest bunch"

He knows his opponent far to well to come out openly before he's got all the facts ready to be exposed.

[Imagevision]

74. It ain't over until it's over!

[texpatriot2004]

75. kick it for Kerry

[juajen]

79. KICK for John -John

EOM

[delphine]

82. The only thing I really noticed that was "interesting" was that he said

"together we can change history" not "make history". "Change" history would be to change something that has already happened . . .

[seito]

83. He said it twice

The first time "together we are going to rewrite history again"

The second time "together we are going to change history"

[stlsaxman]

90. The history has been that elections were stolen...

History says "Bush won Florida" in 2000 and we "changed history" by proving that in fact he did not.

Another of Kerry's classic nuanced statements to his base.

"together we are going to rewrite history again" gotta love it!