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Must_B_Free (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:40 AM Original message |
Who authored Dean's political assination? |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. Don't know |
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Must_B_Free (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. 2nd question |
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ihelpu2see (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
29. I always felt that the Repugs. were afraid of Dr. Dean |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:14 AM Response to Reply #29 |
45. yes - "According to Republican pollsters Bob Moore and Hans Kaiser: |
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dargondogon (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:14 AM Response to Reply #45 |
72. Dean wasn't going to misunderestimate Bush, as Kerry did |
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renaissanceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 06:36 AM Response to Reply #72 |
86. Let's get rid of this stupid primary system. |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
74. The Rove comment was misconstrued from the start |
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tngledwebb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
40. CNN of course. |
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disillusioned1 (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
2. The media did it |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 05:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
83. Yup... |
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RaulVB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
4. The MSM |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Great, our political future is being decided by media hacks |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
5. well, a damn good guess would be . . . |
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GettysbergII (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Then the next question that follows logically is....... |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:56 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I'd like to know this ... |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. It's said that the exit polls matched the results, though |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:01 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. "matched" or "were matched" ? |
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tngledwebb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #17 |
41. Ukriane challenger is BushCo's choice, |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 06:27 AM Response to Reply #41 |
85. Huh? |
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tngledwebb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:42 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Not exactly. The street protestors are real, not plants or stooges. |
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mdb (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:50 AM Response to Original message |
6. It was the type of Microphone he was using |
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George W. Hayduke (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
7. whaddya mean it never happened??? |
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MarkusQ (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:55 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. He means the people in the room didn't hear it as a "scream" |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
61. And a tree fell in the woods today |
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MarkusQ (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
11. Good question. A better series of questions would be... |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:19 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. The Iowa caucus was already toast for him, pre-scream. |
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zimba (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
97. I get it |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:00 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. He lead before votes were cast |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 06:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
25. No he was not leading right before the Iowa primary, his |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:12 AM Response to Reply #11 |
71. No, actually they can be quite different. They do use paper ballots, |
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MarkusQ (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 10:39 AM Response to Reply #71 |
89. Different, but not sufficiently so |
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tngledwebb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 06:37 AM Response to Reply #11 |
87. Good observations. |
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GettysbergII (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
12. In Trippi's Book Joe explains that Dean was speaking in a crowded noisy |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
50. Nothing more dangerous that an honest man? |
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GettysbergII (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:15 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. Yup. And both the Repug and DemoRat Parties seem OK with that. |
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mdb (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
13. Watch this video |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
15. As a live audio engineer, I can confirm that his mike mattered in context. |
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Casablanca (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 04:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Spot -on accurate. In a Dec 2, 2003 interview on CNBC ... |
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jfern (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:23 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. We can't win with this media |
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Casablanca (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. *We* can be the media! |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 03:10 AM Response to Reply #27 |
98. Baloney. His campaign was "created" by MSM. |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:25 AM Response to Reply #23 |
48. Clinton won and survived this media |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 06:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
26. It was not the VOLUME of "the scream," it was the tone. I saw |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
43. word. i would only add |
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Metrix (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 04:35 AM Response to Original message |
19. He had just badly lost the Iowa caucuses when the "scream" occurred |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
76. Dean didn't "simply lose" in Iowa -- |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:21 AM Response to Original message |
21. I believe that MSM did it, under orders from the CFR et al. Kerry |
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jfern (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:22 AM Response to Original message |
22. The media |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:29 AM Response to Original message |
24. I think Dean did a fair job of "assinating" himself. |
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henslee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
30. Please do not underplay the fact that forever reason, Mrs. Dean was not a |
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renaissanceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 06:46 AM Response to Reply #30 |
88. "Middle America" as in |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
31. Simply part of the pre-scripted "narrative" |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
32. The Media because Dean threatened to break up the MSM monopoly. |
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Voltaire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
33. I was in the ValAir Ballroom that night |
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emcguffie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:33 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I think Rove too |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
34. The meeedjia |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
36. The corporate press and the corporate Democrats |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
37. Dean's Outlandish Concession Speech Harpooned His Own Candidacy |
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hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:48 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. "was beyond the pale of acceptable behavior" |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:51 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Right |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #39 |
65. Concession Speech's Are Part Of Our Collective Political Theater |
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Voltaire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:00 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Just what in the FUCK is Acceptable Behavior |
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Karenca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Like acceptable behavior might ever be B*sh's remarks, smirks, |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
64. What's An Acceptable Speech At A Funeral? At A Wedding? At A |
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MarkusQ (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #64 |
95. He wasn't conceding. That's the whole point. |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #37 |
51. He was headed for New Hampshire |
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MarkusQ (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
70. Logic check |
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tngledwebb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #70 |
93. Brings to mind the media stories about Wellstone's funeral. |
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emcguffie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
44. I think it was Rove, too. |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
46. You're an "ASS" short in your title n/t |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:25 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. LOL...brevity is the soul of wit.....n/t |
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
52. I hate conspiracies |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Yet they have a seeming infinite amount of opportunity |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
53. Deleted message |
CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Um |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:47 AM Response to Reply #55 |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Well they sorta did, didn't they? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:54 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Deleted message |
CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:00 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. And Bush was ever ready for prime time? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:03 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Deleted message |
CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. It counts for NOTHING |
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Carl Brennan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
63. He was "assinated"? LOL |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
66. OH GOOD GOD HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS? |
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Melissa G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:58 AM Response to Reply #66 |
77. AMEN!!! |
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Red State Blues (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 02:50 AM Response to Reply #66 |
82. I still think people were stupid to fall for it. |
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Dolphyn (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #66 |
90. Here's the link to the article Carolab mentioned |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
67. The DLC took him out |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:57 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Amen |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
73. Dean was already finished BEFORE the scream |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 02:22 AM Response to Reply #73 |
79. He had "lost" them BECAUSE |
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Obviousman (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
75. Interesting theory |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
78. I saw the Dean scream... |
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henslee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 02:35 AM Response to Original message |
80. Mrs. Dean helped. I admire her dedication to her practice and |
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Red State Blues (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
81. The public. |
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roenyc (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 06:21 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. the scream was fun, but |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
92. Saw Dean on Charlie Rose and he alluded to a discussion with Clinton |
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thedevilinthedetails (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
94. ABC TV did it, they are the ones who bumped up the volume |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:04 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. He had already lost Iowa (3rd place) and was trailing in the polls in NH |
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