A small 'Kerry filing' update to pass the time.

[WilliamPitt]

The filing will be on Monday. It will be broader than we thought (that's all I know). The Green lawyer is very pleased about it.

[lonestarnot]

1. Isn't it Monday yet?

[hlthe2b]

46. In the Marshall Islands, Guam,America Samoa, I believe

(US Protectorates)

[mmiixx]

115. and NEW ZEALAND

its monday evening here

[liam97]

2. A(wo)men

[warrior1]

3. Thanks Will

.

[bearfan454]

4. You have given hope to a lot of people here Will.

Thank you for all your excellent work.............bearfan

[Roon]

5. It pisses me off

I just know the MSM is going to ignore it.

[Darkhawk32]

10. Actually, it might be a good thing... for now....

The moment we want the MSM is when we can say "AHA!!" for absolutely sure.

[Roon]

17. Good point

At least we both know they can't ignore it forever.

[scottxyz]

95. The MSM is batting 1000 at enabling Bush lies: WMD, SS privatization, 2004

A "critical" mass ("critical" in more ways than one) has been building for years OUTSIDE the Bush cabal's navel-gazing.

UK, Canada, Australian and NZ newspapers let even monolingual Americans catch up on what's really happening.

The MSM is on record as having enabled the Iraqi lies, the tax-cut lies - and now they're making a good start of enabling the Social Security privatization lies, and the 2004 election fraud lies.

It's all on the record. More precisely: it's in print, in black-and-white, on video.

History will show who destroyed America: a small gang of oilmen and gun-runners, aided and abetted by a small clique of prostitute-reporters.

Keep covering the "Merry Christmas versus Happy Holidays" controversy, Mainstream Media - while the Republicans steal their second election in a row, and start dismantling the New Deal.

The Whole World Is Watching.

[FreedomAngel82]

34. Most definietly

Just like Bush's "shock & awe" thing in Iraq. It'd be a sweet justice.

[Clark2008]

65. Can you see the faces of the Bushoviks and Freepers

when, all of a sudden, like a bolt of lightening out of nowhere, there's questions about the election?

Then there will be the average American, who would have long ago joined in this fight, but isn't an avid blogger and didn't know it WAS an issue... they will be so P.O.'ed at the MSM.

I can't wait to see the stupor.

[BamaBecky]

124. Shock & Awe! that's a good title for my mini newspaper! n/t

[pocoloco]

47. That's OK ..

but the court cannot ignore it!!

[DeepBlueC]

77. MSM

Can someone explain what the MSM is, please? I'm a recent arrival, just trying to catch up ...

[RevCheesehead]

80. MSM = mainstream media.

Hi, Jeme, and welcome to DU! :hi:

[corbett]

84. My Breath Was Baited But I Hung In There Otherwise

Where would we be without you?????

Did you catch David Lytel's letter to Reverend Jackson? It's sublime and insightful!

http://www.redefeatbush.com/downloads/jacksonletter2.pdf

[impeachthescoundrel]

6. Thank you Mr. Pitt

This is the first Monday I can remember looking forward to!





:bounce:

[Darkhawk32]

7. Thanks Will and good job...

Virtual Beer on me!! :toast:

[meganmonkey]

8. Cue my obsession again!

I had gotten to a point where I checked this forum a few times a day and blocked it out of my mind the rest of the time. Now, I fear, I will be hitting 'refresh, refresh, refresh' non-stop starting first thing tomorrow morning until January 6th or who knows when. AAAAHHHH!!!! I can't take it anymore!!

:bounce: :bounce:

[MelissaB]

12. I know the feeling.

Sometimes my hand hurts!

[liam97]

14. I just wish K/E

wd call a press conf and say
"Dear MSM", you can spin this anyway you like, but these are the facts: ...

[FreedomAngel82]

35. I hope he does that

when he does unconcede. :) If he has to. Does he still have to?

[Chimpanzee]

37. No. Concession has no legal meaning in this case.

[FredStembottom]

96. I am right there with you!

I laid off DU for a short while to get the X-mas madness finished (an usually happy and successful one for the whole fam damily, btw!). It's time to go back to all day "refresh"ments:D on DU - and I have a week off to do it! :party:
(Wow. Who knew last May when I put in for this coming week as a vacation week that it would be during such portentous times?!)

[MelissaB]

9. Yippeeeee!

Thanks for the news!

[Kindigger]

Thank you

Every bit of good news, keeps traveling to Columbus on the 3rd on my agenda. (Praying to the weather god)

[diddlysquat]

11. Thank you very much! n/t

[Turn CO Blue]

13. Broader?

Okay. Now I'll have to sit all day wondering what "broader" means...more counties, stronger language, more evidence, something else that hasn't yet occurred to little sleepy me!

Thanks will. You are a tease, but it's entertaining, and I'm glad you're on our side.

[WilliamPitt]

15. 'Broader' means more chicks involved

*ducking, fleeing, giggling*

Seriously, if I knew more I would say so. If I had the papers I would publish them. If you were around this weekend, you saw people doubting that this would ever happen. The above is not meant to tease, but to sooth and assure. It is happening, for whatever it will ultimately be worth.

[crispini]

19. *grooooooan* :P n/t

[Scout1071]

24. Well, a tease you are Will

but as long as all the good info pans out in the end, I don't mind a little teasing along the way!

[Ladyhawk]

92. You have to remember...this may not accomplish anything.

Be prepared for any contingency.

[keepthemhonest]

27. What's with the caption

"screw you Dan Marino"?

First you are turning us on ,showing pictures of his biceps, now this?

About those naysayers, some people just want instant results and others are probably freepers. Just tune in to the positive's and we'll try to bash the negative's for you.

We do appreciate the inside info and you really made my Holiday weekend better and it looks like the upcoming week may be brighter.It encouraged me to write more letters(senators,legislatures and media and do more calling.)Keep up the good work.

:hi:

[Nothing Without Hope]

28. Good thing you ducked! And good riddance to Marino

Honestly, the puns some people are capable of! Harumph!

Actually, what really has me chuckling is your sig line -- you really DIDN'T enjoy having to post that garish Marino photo, did you? Well, we're all relieved that your betting debt is paid.

The "broader" part is intriguing, but I refuse to allow myself to speculate. Well... I'm TRYING to not speculate. Arghh! At least it means it's not LESS than the fairly narrow interpretation in your earlier posts would suggest. With the extra time, they could have changed the wording, after all. I hope you're able to get a copy of it for us to parse on Monday.

As always, thank you!

[bear425]

39. Will, thank you again for the assurance. I will look forward to

tomorrow. P.S. You mentioned that you are going to DC on the 6th. Is that for the rally? I'm in Florida and few of us are considering driving up.

[Clark2008]

67. Good... then we can tell the Freepers who

are playing their silly little "trophy" game on DU and attempting to say this isn't "true," to kiss our asses.

Literally :kick:

[dandrhesse]

16. thanks! take a look at other thread, good letter

thanks for the update, I was really glad to see a Republican letter very similar to the one you posted for me, check it out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x194341

[Amaryllis]

63. Where's the one that was posted for you?

[burned]

18. Good lord...

I hope something clicks together somewhere, sometime. I don't give a shit how small or how big a picture it makes, so long as it's within everyones grasp.

[liam97]

20. Will, can I ask a question on Triad?

are people close to the issue more or less convinced that what Triad did was fraudulent or is it just a thwarting of Ohio recount law? I ask because even Conyers' letter says "deliberately or negligently"...

[WilliamPitt]

23. Good question

Don't know for sure. Either gets us to the other side of the river, i.e. a full recount. Fraud is probably harder to prove.

[liam97]

25. Dear Oldelftielawyer

can you tell if the Triad business will at least shift the burden of proof or take us to a full hand count with impounding of machines and manual inspection of 92K ballots

[ClassWarrior]

38. PMing OLL for you now...

NGU.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

44. I have no idea

Since this has never happened before - in a Presidential election - it is, as we like to say, "a case of first impression." So, I'm not sure anyone know what will happen.

If, in fact, anything happens.

If you've ever seen the Mel Brooks movie, "The Twelve Chairs," now is the time to start humming the chorus from the theme song:

"Hope for the best;
Expect the worst."

But, never give up. Right now, it's simply a matter of getting the protective and expedite motions filed.

One step at a time, friend.

[BreakForNews]

52. 1. Negligence 2. Planned incitement to fraud 3. Conspiray to fraud

The "negligently" bit by Conyers was about his only "concession" to the apparent facts.
Pretty hard to arrange multi-county cheat sheets by negligence rather than design, eh?


No Holiday for Vote Thieves -BlackCommentator.com
http://www.blackcommentator.com/119/119_cover_vote_thieves_pf.html

"Well, you know, orchestrated attempts don't always require a conspiracy." -John Conyers

Conspirators can be convicted even if they don’t know all the other players
or the whole scope of the criminal enterprise. They need only be
shown to have acted in the furtherance of the larger scheme.

Sounds very much like Rep. Conyers’ “orchestrated attempts,” doesn’t it?

Sounds like options 2 or 3 :)

[liam97]

54. Dear BFN

I am beginning to believe in your tagline "for the really good news...

[Amaryllis]

64. Does a full recount mean a hand recount? And that still won't take into

account all the people who didn't get to vote due to suppression, intimidation, etc.

[Al-CIAda]

74. Hard drives and 'batteries' being replaced all over the country

this weekend. Anyone taking the action on the over/under on something like that?

[flpoljunkie]

75. Will, the same Triad Management Systems in "What's the Matter with Kansas"

Antennae went up when reading this excerpt from the book, "What's the Matter with Kansas?", p. 81-82 by Thomas Frank:

"...The Kansas sensibility with which Vernon Smith is most closely connected is not that of populism, but Koch Industries, the nation's second-largest privately held company. Based in Wichita, Koch's primary business is oil, but is far better known for its owners' openhanded political activities than for its petroleum operations. The founder of the dunasty, Fred Koch, was a charter member of the John Birch Soceity. His billionaire son Charles founded the libertarian Cato Institute in 1977, and another billionaire son, David, ran for vice president on the Libertarian ticket in 1980. Koch money flowed through Triad Management Services, which delivered such crucial assistance to Sam Brownback's Senate campaign in 1996; and Koch money, mingled with the money of so many other oil interests, supported the presidential campaign of George W. Bush."

[keepthemhonest]

21. Thank you

so much ,now I can't wait for the weekend to get over.

Be big, be very big news please.

[DELUSIONAL]

22. Thanks -- I'm keeping a small International community

updated on this.

The English here like Kerry and HATE bushie. In fact I was talking politics with two English couples at Christmas dinner yesterday. They were most interested in this filing. I have NOT talked to a single non US citizen who remotely likes bush and this is regardless of their economic status -- some Canadians & UK citizens here are quite wealthy. Americans here as a general rule are not talking politics -- they have clammed up.

The International Press has not caught wind of this -- yet.

(here = undisclosed location in the Caribbean).

[redacted]

59. Improving International Press Coverage?

Thanks for your post. Do you have any suggestions on how to improve coverage in the international press? I've been regularly emailing articles to BBC News, BBC World, BBC News 24, Radio 5 Live talk show hosts, the Guardian and RTE as part of my distribution list for several weeks.

[DELUSIONAL]

72. I wish I did --

The grunt level reporters are probably interested -- but as my International friends tell me -- everyone is afraid of bush. Anyway that's their impression of the way Blair caves to bush.

Right now there are no representatives of the International press on this island or any nearby island. The small local paper covers local issues -- and the local population keeps asking how 59 million American voters can be so stupid. I reply -- that number was hacked -- and that Kerry really did win.

It doesn't surprise anyone since it is widely believed that Gore won in 2000 and that bush would not leave the white house without a fight.

After reading some of the threads on this -- it appears that perhaps Kerry has taken the only route that can possibly lead him to the white house. He will have to shovel a hell of a lot of SHIT from the door to even get in the white house -- but it is fight now -- or forget about another democrat to ever get the keys to the white house.

And it takes time to prove vote fraud -- that the vote was hacked --

One thing I tell people (out here outside of the US) is that a major shift in news reporting is happening -- this vote fraud IS being reported on the Internet -- there are legitimate reporters (like WILL PITT) working on the Internet. News is breaking first on the Internet. It appears to me that Internet news sources will scoop this story and investigate it -- while even the UK mainstream media is waiting. Remember that the UK has really strong slander laws -- this was pointed out by several English snow birds. Bush has threatened UK newspapers -- and they maybe collecting info -- while playing it safe.

Truth Is All -- is doing an incredible job educating us about exit polls and polling in general.

The vote was hacked and the whole world is the victim of the fraud which has to go directly to the white house -- Rove has to be in control and he pulled the strings. Rove isn't one to just "let it happen".

[ahyums]

26. broader than we thought? perhaps slightly more cause for optimism then?

n/t

[adadem]

29. That will be

the best birthday present ever!

All I want is a Kerry Kerry birthday tomorrow!!!

[jbnow]

36. Hey I thought it was for MY birthday

I will be 50 on Monday. But since that is a pretty grown-up age I can share, so it can be for your birthday too. (Post Christmas birthdays need to be nice to each other. Happy birthday)

[Silver Gaia]

125. Heh... looks like a few of us are hoping for a really cool

BIRTHDAY PRESENT! :D Happy Birthday my fellow 27thers... Yep, we need to be nice to each other... it's a tough birthday to have.

Happy birthday, cheryl27!

Happy 50th jbnow! (I'll be 51.)

Here's hoping our birthdays are Kerry spectacular!

Cheers! ::: clink :::

[jbnow]

132. Happy birthday back to you!

I saw a comic once with a little girl bemoaning to an adult she was talking to how hard it was to have a birthday near Christmas, no one pays attention to it or you.

Then you see the hand she is holding is Jesus's. He looks sad too and says "I know!"

But Kerry surely saved this just for us.

[Karenca]

30. Do you think this will be broadcast on the News---Monday?

Maybe Tuesday?
Thanks.

[dalloway]

31. thank you Will for all you do! n/t

[merh]

32. Thank you Will

You posts have not been teases, they have been informative only. Ignore the naysayers and the freeps, they are just trying to tarnish your stance so that we doubt their credibility. They miss the fact that their "numbers" and their "concern" give them away! Be careful one and all, the freeps will be all around, trying to learn and to discourage. :freak: Ignoring them deflates their ego and defeats their purpose. Let their threads fall, let their threads die the natural deaths they deserve.

[New Earth]

33. w00t!!

thank you!

[Quakerfriend]

40. Thx again, Will!

For keeping our hopes alive!:hi:

[lonestarnot]

41. This day going to slllllooooooooowww.

Taking flowers to the cemetary soon. Thanks William Pitt.

[WebeBlue]

42. Tx Will, and I'm already having a Very, Merry, Kerry Christmas

so knowing whatever and however it breaks this next week, I got the one and only thing I wanted for Christmas this year already. Now into the New Year with a hint of potential to the holiday saying of Peace towards humankind. Only Kerry can get us close towards any kind of reconciliation given the carnage B*** has created.

I've got an old pre-election email pass around from a B***-voter in our family sent me, showing a video clip of voting machine that refuses to register the vote for Kerry. I saved it, knowing some day I would send it back to him with a message "guess you knew something I didn't, huh?"

[BigBearJohn]

57. hahahahahahahahahahahahah

Wish *I* had thought of that... hahahahahahahahahahahah
I have a few republican friends I could send the same thing.
You will have to post that file here so we can all send it to
our repub "friends" with your quip "guess you knew something I didn't,
eh?" -- Oh my God, that's classic. I'm still chuckling.
Vengeance is mine, sayeth Kerry.

[GiveMeSomeTruth]

90. Here is a funny voting machine clip

It was funny before the election, anyway.

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/floridavoting.wmv

[WebeBlue]

98. That's the video clip I saved, only the link you gave didn't work

(well didn't work for me anyway) and I'm not so techie that I know how to find the properties of the email forward I got from family republican pre-election. So here is a link to the originator of the video clip, called Bush Wins Florida! http://www.boomchicago.nl/Section/Videos/BoomChicagoVotingMachine

I'm not even sure how he was able to forward it to me as email attachment. But I'm looking forward to the day when I can send it back to him with those cherised words "guess you knew something I didn't huh?". And that day is coming soon.

[seito]

43. Thanks Will

Your efforts are appreciated by 98.76582974982479% of the people here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x195765

[graywarrior]

45. Monday. Can't come soon enough.

Monday Monday so good to me
Monday mornin' it was all I hoped it would be

[hlthe2b]

48. Thanks for the update, Will .... Now, fellow DUers: don't shoot the

messenger!

[Vidar]

49. Thanks for the info, Will

[WritersBlock]

50. Thanks, Mr Pitt...consider me soothed, reassured, and very appreciative

of the update! :)

[fooj]

51. a true American Patriot...

Thanks for helping to keep us sane and for keeping us informed! It's nice to know that there are SOME journalists out there with integrity and credibility! I'm anxiously waiting for the "Miracle on Pennsylania Avenue"!!!I believe!! "Faith is believing in things when common sense tell you not to." PEACE!O8)

[Patsy Stone]

76. Beautifully put, fooj.

And, William, thanks again for the info.
Fingers crossed, candle lit.
I like broader. Broader is Good. The broader the better. Yessssss.

[txindy]

53. Cool

Very cool. Thanks!

[anamandujano]

71. txindy, is that Doohickie holding the little sign?

[Pithy Cherub]

55. Tomorrow's just a day away...

[BreakForNews]

56. Thanks William.

There never was a "credibility" issue about your first report.
Or any of your reports. lol

I was among many who carefully noted your account of imminent developments.

Thanks for uour invaluable journalism all through this.

Seito said:
"(William) Your efforts are appreciated by
98.76582974982479% of the people here."

Make that 98.86346429596597% :)

[liam97]

58. or 99.86

[Brundle_Fly]

70. Agreed...

Will is doing his job, and doing it well!

[Jackpine Radical]

81. I'd be more inclined to believe you if

I didn't know that 78.682% of all statistics are made up ad hoc.

[politicasista]

60. Thanks Man!

:yourock:

[johnaries]

61. Thank you, Will!

Whenever I log onto DU, one of the first things I do is check for your name and your latest posting.
Broader, eh? Maybe the weather delay gave them some more time for research and was a good thing, after all?!!?

[understandinglife]

66. And, time to review the videos of folk scurrying in and out of Triad...

....during the night last week (and more) :evilgrin:

Thanks Will (and, Merh, looks like I'll get to use that new PACER account of mine a second time ;-) )

The next 11 days are going to be all about writing a chapter in the history of our American franchise of democracy; let's make it as interesting and enlightening and successful as possible. And, hopefully, save future generations from ever having to write an addendum.

Peace.

[Darkhawk32]

62. The Holiday would've just overshadowed it.....

despite its huge implications. Reporting on Santa Clause is much easier than real reporting for our MSM.

[IndyPriest]

68. For pete's sake, I don't have any finger nails left! :-) n/t

[GetTheRightVote]

69. Tomorrow can not come so enought, excited about the big news

Thank you Will P. for the update.

:bounce:

[FloridaCrat]

73. Thank you Will. I see Dan Marino has left you. so sad...

Thanks for the great words over the weekend. I'm appreciative of
everything you write - especially the Christmas poem!

[wlubin]

78. It is now Monday in England, why havn't we heard anything about

the Kerry filing yet?????


:bounce:

[Karenca]

82. cause it's sunday in the

states...Kerry is filing tomorrow, Monday here.
So you'll probly know something by 5PM or 6PM over there. (about 17=18 hours from now).

[wlubin]

83. yes i know, it was my attempt at a little bit of humor.

[keepthemhonest]

85. I got your joke

hee hee. I wish we were on london time today.

[Karenca]

88. Brititsh humor?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I've got to get with it! :pals:

[Pepper32]

79. Broader? You mean it gets better!! Sweet. Hurry up Monday. Thanks Will

:yourock:

on edit:fixed typo

[SharonRB]

86. Thanks for the encouraging update, Will

I see I'll be spending a lot of time on DU at work tomorrow, looking for the news.

The sun will come out, tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow
There'll be sun....

Can't wait to find out what "broader" means!

Sweet dreams, everyone.

[PennyK]

87. Just wanted to mention...

I'm too new here to start my own topic, but today's NY Times had a whole heap o'letters to the editors on the topic of election fraud...I think one of them questioned our motives..the others all exparessed the belief that the election was stolen.

Will tomorrow's filing get a lot of media play (I hope I hope I hope)?

[intheflow]

93. NY Times LTTE re: election fraud link here:

Here's the link to the NYT letters to the editor (LTTE).

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/26/opinion/l26vote.html?oref=login

Thanks for the heads up, and I will post in a separate thread. Right on, PennyK. :yourock: Welcome to DU!

[KaliTracy]

89. thanks for the update Will

after travel and family semi-chaos for the last 48 hours, this is something that allowed me to sit back and breathe deep....

[SueZhope]

91. I was visiting my sister during the holiday

and managed to sneak away and get to DU , to my surprise was a nice
update from William Pitt .

Thank you for sharing ,I look forward to
tomorrows developments. :)

[davidgmills]

94. I 'm a lawyer and I believe it will have to be broader. Here's why.

Normally persons who are non-litigants have no standing in a case to request anything. Joe Citizen cannot ask the judge presiding over a case to expedite discovery or preserve evidence or any other thing unless he intervenes in the lawsuit and becomes a litigant.

I find it hard to believe Kerry would have any standing to do anything in court or ask for any kind of relief unless he becomes a litigant.

The only exception to this rule that I can think of is an amicus brief. But the purpose of an amicus brief is to inform the judge what the interested person thinks the LAW of the case should be, and almost always after the facts of the case are known. A request for expeditied discovery and preservation of evidence pertains to discovering the facts of the case and is not a means of informing the judge what someone thinks the law should be.

I'm racking my brain, but I can think of no instance where Kerry would have standing to ask the judge for an expedited hearing or for preservation of evidence unless he becomes a litigant first.

Can any lawyers out there conceive of any way he could possibly do this without becoming a litigant? Cause I sure can't.

For what its worth, this is 27 years of legal experience talking, and way too many court cases to count.

[Amaryllis]

99. What would he have to do to become a litigant? And thanks for your post.

[davidgmills]

108. becoming a litigant

Usually you file what is called an intervention, meaning you want to intervene in an existing lawsuit. Sometimes an intervention takes court approval and sometimes one has an automatic right to intervene.

Usually court approval is a formality if you can show that you are truely an interested party in the subject matter of the litigation.

Kerry would have no problem showing that he was an interested party and any intervention by him would almost certainly be permitted.

As a litigant he would be called the intervenor, rather than a plaintiff or a defendant.

I just went to Will's initial post and looked carefully at what he said. He said:

"It should be noted that Kerry's filing of these requests does not indicate his complete entry into the recount process, but does clearly indicate that he is moving decisively in that direction."

I know Will has some legal knowledge. That could be Will's way of saying Kerry is going to intervene.

But technically, an intervenor is a litigant and has the same rights as any plaintiff or defendant. One can, however, intervene for very limited purposes so maybe that is what is being implied.

[Amaryllis]

102. David, can you check out this thread? We need a lawyer to advise.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x197273
Lytel: "The End is Near: The Coming Constitutional Insurrection"

Too complex for me to try to explain but there are some very interesting ideas here for several different legal ways to approach saving the election and people are asking for a lawyer's opinion on some of it.

[davidgmills]

109. I read that earlier

It is indeed quite fascinating and I am not sure what to make of it.

I am not a constitutional lawyer.

This also involves Congressional matters not the courts.

However, one thing did bother me and that was if the matter for some reason it made it to the federal courts as the author suggests it might. If it gets to the federal courts, I have my doubts, given Bush v. Gore, that it would come out in our favor. Dissenters in Bush v. Gore felt that the 2000 election should have been decided by congress, not by the Supreme Court. The majority of the court refused to allow it.

The trick in 2004 is to completely keep any election questions out of the federal courts, but if push comes to shove like it did last time, I am sure that is the first place the Republicans would head.

Our best shot was the people's vote, not the branches of government which are all controlled by one party.

[Amaryllis]

112. Did you/ can you post this on that thread?

We are all getting quite the civics lesson.

[davidgmills]

120. On another board

Old Leftie Lawyer has stated the new case is in federal court.

Makes me nervous. Heck, I'm nervous in the courts period. Republican state courts can be as bad or worse than the federal ones.

You will have to tell me where you want these posts or post them yourselves.

[KaliTracy]

107. I thought he was a litigent on a couple of filings

The one for Deleware County, and one other. I'm in the process of trying to find them now... any one else remember?

[KaliTracy]

111. Looks like just Delaware county Kerry listed as intervenor-defendant

against Delaware Board of Elections: http://rawstory.com/exclusives/kerry_ohio_suit_1215.php

Letter requesting formal investigation to Blackwell http://rawstory.com/exclusives/kerry_1216.php

[davidgmills]

114. There were cross actions

meaning just about ewverybody sued each other back and forth. Kerry was both Intervenor Defendant and Intervenor Plaintiff.

Likely the same thing will happen in this suit as well.

[nomatrix]

97. Do you think Gregoire/Rossi governor race

recount has any legal footings for Kerry to use?

Expect gnashing of teeth from the Rossi clan.

[TankLV]

100. I don't believe a single thing will happen to unseat bunkerboyl

Sorry for the negative attitude.

Ain't.
Gonna.
Happen.

Sorry, just facing reality.

Now prove me wrong and do anything you want to make me do if it does pan out as you said!

[wlubin]

101. Sorry to burst your reality, but shrub stole Ohio and we all know it.

The recount efforts will show that, and we know it will show it by how the nazis have reacted to the recount efforts there thus far. Once that is shown, shrub has gotta get out of the white house. So given the fact that it is clear that the recount will show Kerry won Ohio, and given that having won Ohio implies Kerry won the election, the only way for shrub to stay president, is if he forces him self into office, refuses to leave. Do you think shrub would do that? I would not put it past him.

So to rephrase your comment, what you are saying is that shrub essentially is going to refuse to relinquish power to the winner.

[Amaryllis]

113. Recount won't show a Kerry win unless we can get a hand recount.

They've got it rigged so it won't show a Kerry win with all the manipulation. We must get a hand recount.

[wlubin]

116. The suspicious actions taken by blackwell and the triad boys and

girls, I feel will force a hand recount. Let's hope, I think it will.

[nashville_brook]

118. i like your attitude!

[EMunster]

117. second that

[TankLV]

133. I think you are the one who's gonna have a "burst reality".

I'm just stating the obvious.

Ain't.
Gonna.
Happen.

I would love to be proved wrong.

And I don't doubt anything you say about the legitimacy of the election and the shenanigans that transpired.
But I'm afraid I'm the one facing reality here.

I'm on your side.

I just don't see Kerry ever being sworn in in the coming year.

Sorry.

[nadinbrzezinski]

103. Will the corporate press finally pick this up?

I mean I was shocked they actually covered the quake\tsunami, quite frankly....

[Silver Gaia]

104. Tomorrow is my birthday...

and I am hoping for the BEST gift of all... Come on, Kerry! Make my birthday wish come true! ;)

P.S. - Thanks for the update, Will...

[Radio_Lady]

105. Happy Birthday, Joolz!

Wherever you are, and however old you are... I have a grandson born on December 1st, and a son born on December 10th. We've had a bunch of celebrations, so I'll add in some XXXXOOOO's for you, too!

Enjoy!

[Silver Gaia]

119. Thanks Radio_Lady!

Many celebrations here this month as well... My daughter turned 24 on the 11th (she proudly shares John Kerry's birthday ;) ). Thanks for the XXXXOOOO's... Let's hope I get my birthday wish! :D

[hootinholler]

131. Me Too!

Happy Birthday to US,
Happy Birthday to US,

I'm hoping for some breaking news,

Happy Birthdasy to US.

-Hoot

[ailsagirl]

106. Thanks Will-- but please get some rest!!!

Though you're probably running on adrenaline...!!

[proudbluestater]

110. Thanks, Will! It's very significant to hear the Greens are happy!

They were the main critics of Kerry before now.

I don't know if you can answer this, or how close you are to the situation personally, but does it seem as though Kerry is going about this just due to public pressure? Many of us have written to him, DNC, DLC, telling him if he doesn't fight the party is finished. Do you think he is going about this due to pressure, that his heart is not really in it? Just curious whether you know.

Because to me, it almost seems as though, at this late date, he's just going through the motions, trying to appease those who say he should fight. Is he really INTO it? Do you know?

[Oversea Visitor]

121. Ahhhh

where is the Marino pic

[angel54321]

122. Hope it gets picked up by the MSM, but I doubt it

maybe KO but we will just have to see

[flpeach]

123. I don't see how . . .

MSM could NOT pick up a story like that . . . a presidential candidate sues over voter fraud . . . .

They will pick it up but they will also disclaim it as being ridiculous and that OF COURSE it won't make any difference.

The right wingers will be calling Kerry a sore loser.

[roenyc]

127. If they pick it up they will say

"they dont expect the outcome of the election to change"

just so everyone can go back and watch wife swap and not worry about the state of the "free world".

the freeps will say we are sore losers. cant let go blah blah blah. and guys we need to be strong, and let it all be soon we shall overcome.

but every time i see and hear one of the Dem's on CNN giving credit to this damn election like bush actually won fair i want to scream. so i hope this brings fraud out into the open and at least puts a question mark on this mans man date.

[Karenca]

126. Will, Do you know about what time

we're going to hearr someting about this?

Thanks :))

[goclark]

128. What is happening with the filing?

Can a new thread be started to give us an update?

[Karenca]

130. I made a new thread here -------

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x198124

[lonestarnot]

129. I'm SURE it's Monday!

Waiting...