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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:25 PM Original message |
Guys, here's the problem . . . . |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. wrong, sorry |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. no, the goal should be to win by a fraud-proof margin. |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. bullshit, there's no such animal as "fraud proof" |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
66. Kerry Won by 10% to 11% they scrubbed like 12 to 15 million votes |
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proudbluestater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 03:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
52. There is no "fraud proof margin" when you deal with Rethugs |
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mousie (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
39. that's right |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. valid point, but public indifference to election theft is much worse. |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. and it has been with us since the founders . . . . |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 03:26 AM Response to Reply #16 |
53. Deal with it how? |
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OKthatsIT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
3. duh |
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KaliTracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
4. we cannot stop. we will never gain the momentum we have |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
68. yeah but thats 20 out of 28 Kerry voters think it was stolen |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
5. Oh, of course *slaps forehead* now, why didn't we think of that |
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New Earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. WE may utterly destroy the public confidence in elections? |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. it turns out that "FRAUD" is a subjective term. And . . . |
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IndyPriest (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
48. Election fraud is NOT a subjective term. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
69. ahh like maybe 3 weeks away |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
73. What's "the program?" n/t |
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keepthemhonest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
63. exactly Faye |
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JaneDoughnut (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
7. I'm with AZDem |
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BernieBear (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
8. THIS IS SUCH BULLSHIT = A BUNCH OF CRAP |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. prosecution requires evidence + evidence + evidence + EVIDENCE |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. you are missing the point entirely, it's not about stopping the |
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Mister Ed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
9. That's what I thought in 2000. Now look where we are. n/t |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
34. Mister Ed, people yackety-yak a streak and waste the time of day |
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Cobalt Violet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
10. The public shouldn't have confidence in elections. |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
11. How do you win the war |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. I'm not sure that I WANT to win this war . . . |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:11 AM Response to Reply #22 |
40. I guess I should ask |
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SueZhope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
12. I think the problem is |
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drthais (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
13. are you out of your freakin' mind? |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. probably. n/t |
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fearnobush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
14. No, we need to "utterly destroy the public confidence in elections" |
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puddycat (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
17. Truth may hurt initially but is always best in the long run. n/t |
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greatscott15 (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. NOT Convinced of Major Fraud |
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puddycat (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:26 AM Response to Reply #28 |
43. no paper trail and vote machines are made by Bushistas= FRAUD |
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New Earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. you mean election fraud |
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puddycat (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 07:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
65. election fraud is a better word but I'm sure people understood N/T |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:36 AM Response to Reply #28 |
47. Oh really? |
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greatscott15 (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Both Sides Guilty |
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SharonRB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
59. Surely you jest... |
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meganmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
60. Then you're in the wrong forum |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
61. Whatever... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
70. 12 to 15 million votes were scrubbed ---Kerry won by 10% to 11% |
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demodonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
20. Holy Moly! We "may" destroy confidence in WHAT???? |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
23. I really hope that this isn't the opinion of.... |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. are you referring to the DLC? |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. you said it, I didn't nt |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
24. If they paid attention |
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Sandy_0 (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
30. What you all seem to be forgetting is |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
74. hit the streets--make like a Ukrainian-51 capitalmarch in NYC @ CBS |
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kitkat65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
31. Didn't we do that in 2000 with Florida? Gore, fucking won Florida |
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MissBrooks (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
32. Logic? |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
33. Hell no, it's thinking like that that's the problem |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
35. Yeah, you're right. Go watch Family Feud, and be quiet. |
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berniew1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
36. You have it badly wrong. Its necessary to show massive fraud to get publi |
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BigBearJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
37. Oh my God |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
38. Voter confidence? Election fraud stops now. |
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joevoter (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
41. troll bait |
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Niche (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
42. THIS IS THE WAR! |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
45. You are absolutely WRONG!!! |
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floridadem30 (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
46. so we should just allow the fraud to continue, I will never stand for that |
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anaxarchos (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
49. Wow... |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 02:47 AM Response to Original message |
50. Voter Confidence? -- ru nutz?....well are you! -- idiot! |
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proudbluestater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 03:15 AM Response to Original message |
51. Are you serious? WE did not destroy confidence, the STEALERS did! |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 03:28 AM Response to Original message |
54. DU didn't destroy my confidence in elections. Repug cheating destroyed it. |
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roenyc (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 05:49 AM Response to Original message |
55. you have got to be kidding me! |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:39 PM Response to Reply #55 |
71. I was recruited by Ted Carter for the Campaign--the conversation that got |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
57. huh? |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
58. Cannot disagree more strongly. |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
62. Say, WHAT?!!?! |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
64. what war? There is no war if we don't win this battle. |
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buddysmellgood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
67. This is the last battle of this War. There will be another war, but it |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:42 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. in Nj there is a suit in trenton IIRC jan 11th about voting ---the |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
75. What? You Nuts? |
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corbett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
76. Losing This Battle IS Losing The War |
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madison2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
77. I think you misunderstand the problem. |
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