No matter what, Bush WILL be considered a fraud on January 20.

[TruthIsAll]

And so will the Dems who refuse to stand.

[katinmn]

1. Yes, and yes. n/t

[DemonFighterLives]

2. He can still have his man-date

But he better do it in Crawford behind closed doors.
Anything Dems or honest Reps can do now to reveal the emperor without clothes will be a plus.

[librechik]

3. Thanks, TIA! And thanks Walt Starr! (for the 1st "no matter what...")

You both are the greatest, and what a comfort and inspiration you both are to me! All the best in the New Year!

[liam97]

4. Finally, a thread which doesn't say

how terrible it will be to raise a legitimate challenge provided for in the constitution

As I said in another thread, senators have so far:
vote for a war without legitimate grounds
support the nomination of Kerik and Gonzalez
never ask anything about the botched 9/11 investigation
never ask where the Abu Ghraib story went

But remember:
when ACLU fought for and released the torture memos, they did NOT expose ACLU. They quietly went and "broadened" the definition of torture.
When the world called them stingy, they coughed up $350 million
When the media exposed Kerik, he withdrew...
and of course when several decades ago a black woman refused to go to the back of the bus....

[goclark]

19. Let's Challenge!

If you don't buy a lottery ticket, you can not win.

If you don't attempt to raise your hand and wimp out, we can not possibly win.

I refuse to wimp out and will be watching closely those that do not stand up on Jan.6th.

[bearfan454]

5. Fucking eh !

Fraud, fraud, fraud.

[bloom]

6. yes...eom

[KalicoKitty]

7. AMEN !!!!!!!

<n/t>

[Not a Sheep]

8. Most of us here have considered him a fraud from the begining. /eom

[rodeodance]

10. yes, by many--but not enough people know the issue enough to even

consisder Bush to be elected fraudulently! The mainsteam media has failed the people once again!!!!

[Not a Sheep]

11. I agree, most Americans are in the dark & yes, the MSM has failed. /eom

[pretzel4gore]

15. one one hand, on the other!

they trust in the goodness of government? hmmm!....any scan of american movies past 30 years says government is, at best, untrustworthy, at worse the bad guys! So if the people do not trust government, how is it they concur with a blatant hypocrite/liar/abortionist/serial killer/dupe/ex drug abuser like geebush? Maybe the 'tail's wagging the elephant'? maybe the mediawhore are so relentlessly lying that even if a few americans physically confronted them (them, not the machinery of government that cacoons bushinc!) the less compromised members of the media might start telling the truth(?)

[roseBudd]

12. When the MSM fails then the people (guerilla marketers) must step forward

The first rule of advertising is KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID

As part of the "educated elite" we DUers tend to over think and be too obtuse.

We should take a page from the GOP playbook and play dirty and use BUSH CHEATED. It should be our Sore Loserman because we need to KISS and we need to mock and denigrate the opposition. They would do it to us. If we continue to play nice we will be slaughtered. In addition BUSH CHEATED covers every type of election fraud, suppression, tabulation fraud, ballot box stuffing, etc.

We need to reach lots of people who have no idea what is going on because they do not visit lefty web sites. A large portion of those people are geographically easy to communicate with. In my pre election GOTV street canvassing activities I had no problem figuring out where the likely dem voters were (urban and campus areas, integrated or minority neighborhoods) and I was able to use guerrilla marketing, ie. posting bills to reach people even when I was not there. I use 3M Super 77 spray adhesive from Staples to glue them to metal utility poles, bus stop shelters, newspaper racks, and phone booths in urban/campus areas where our base congregates.

Go to http://somnamblst.tripod.com to download high res flyer files to print. BUSH CHEATED is color but can be printed B&W to save $$$. It prints 2 to a page so you will have to cut it. The link for more info is http://stolenelection.org a very easy URL to remember.

[AndyTiedye]

25. Even Most Democrats Are In The Dark About Election Fraud

My sister had never even heard of Diebold until I told her,
and she lives in a very blue state with relatively liberal media.

[Freddie Stubbs]

9. Not by a majority of Americans

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[TruthIsAll]

14. You believe the published results? Only 56 million voted for him.

And 62 million voted for Kerry.

So we are already in the majority.

[pretzel4gore]

16. unfortunately, the 62 million majority

are the better type of decent citizen, not given to violent rampages or acquiescence with bald faced untruths maintained year after year :( iow long suffering....

[Pam-Moby]

18. I agree

They made it so he had a large amount over John Kerry because of what was said after he lost the popular vote to Gore. If we ever get the chance to actually count the way people really voted I believe that John Kerry did receive over 60 million votes and Bush only got in the low 50's. But once a thief!!! always a thief!!!

[Carolab]

20. Right you are, TIA!

And the ones who voted for * don't know what we know, but they will hopefully at least start to get a clue.

[goclark]

21. Speak TIA, we are in the majority n/t

[Pithy Cherub]

17. All the marbles or go home! n/t

[rdmccur]

22. Particularly by the international

community he will be considered illegitimate
since their news media has been more likely to openly discuss our election fraud in the USA. Although I'm surprised even there how little
it has been discussed (for a few exceptions). But that may indeed change as time goes on and more is learned.

[SueZhope]

23. You got it TIA!!!!

Bush has been a fraud and will continue to be one
and if the Dems don't stand and lead the
Dems will slowly go the way of the dinosaurs

its a time for change

[anaxarchos]

24. This is dead right...

And time will make it even more so....

Dimissing it (i.e. the stolen election) did not work.

There is no reason for people who don't buy in to the 2004 results to suddenly change their minds - no real case for legitimacy has been made.

There are many reasons for people who were skeptical of the results to conclude that the election was rigged.

Act II is just starting.

[AtLiberty]

26. Not standing up with Conyers...

...condones the widespread voter suppression and voting fraud.

[bleever]

27. And we'll be doing our part to make sure.

The truth will keep building momentum.

Bush Cheated.

NGU.


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