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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 06:40 PM Original message |
"Conclusive evidence" is NOT what is needed |
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righteous1
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Mon Jan-03-05 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. Hmmmm ,so inconclusive evidence is preferable |
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FreepFryer
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. a non-response to a valid post. |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I did not say "preferable" I said "needed" |
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TruthIsAll
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Do you know what it means to investigate? |
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KittyWampus
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Mon Jan-03-05 11:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. NO, Evidence Enought To Make FURTHER MORE AGGRESSIVE |
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ClassWarrior
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. I thought this passage in another DUer's letter was spot on... |
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merwin
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. This the post you looking for? |
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ClassWarrior
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Yup, that's the one. Thanks buddysmellgood! Well said. |
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Pacifist Patriot
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Wow, wish I'd seen that before I composed my letters. |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. I noticed the "post your letters" thread too late |
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Misskittycat
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. There's an interesting legal doctrine that has some analogy value here. |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Eloquently put and a good analogy! |
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Amaryllis
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Tue Jan-04-05 01:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
72. See this for great arguments for contesting and why "proof" not needed! |
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cali
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. res ipsa is a terrible analogy |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Correct me where I go wrong : |
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SicTransit
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. Election contest may be a "surefire way to get the attention" |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 08:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. So you want to leave it up to a nice bipartisan commision |
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SicTransit
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Mon Jan-03-05 08:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. First of all, |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 08:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. I did not say "partisan" but "bipartisan" |
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SicTransit
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Mon Jan-03-05 10:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. You did not understand what I said. |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 10:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Well you are right on something |
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SicTransit
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Mon Jan-03-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. let's say that you want to make it widely known |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 10:40 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. let's say you want to make it widely known |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. "scattered incidents of voter suppression" |
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davidgmills
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Mon Jan-03-05 08:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
40. You need to read the Freeman and Baiman reports |
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me b zola
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Mon Jan-03-05 11:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
69. Scattered incidents of voter suppression? |
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righteous1
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. I am sorry but I don't agree with your assertion. The only specific thing |
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Misskittycat
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. I said it was not a perfect analogy, and not to be analyzed |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 09:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
47. You are arguing why there is no hard evidence |
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bemis12
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
14. You're talking about |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. So you think conclusive proof has to exist before |
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bemis12
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. No, a serious investigation is warranted. |
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ClassWarrior
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Oh yeah, Congress handled it just fine last time, didn't they?... |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. if you say an investigation is warranted, |
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consciousobjector
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. I see, so we don't ignore election results |
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Deleted message |
Qutzupalotl
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Exit poll discrepancy is a valid point. |
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SicTransit
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Mon Jan-03-05 08:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Did you even read the post to which you responded? |
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Qutzupalotl
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Mon Jan-03-05 08:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. See post 31. |
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Qutzupalotl
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Mon Jan-03-05 10:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
53. The U.S. held up exit poll discrepancies in the Ukraine |
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SicTransit
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Mon Jan-03-05 10:21 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. You are wrong - US held up |
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righteous1
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Mon Jan-03-05 08:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Exit poll anomalies are noteworthy but are proof of absolutely |
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Qutzupalotl
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Mon Jan-03-05 10:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
54. They were enough for the U.S. to cast doubt on the integrity of the vote |
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righteous1
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Mon Jan-03-05 11:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Again that was a miniscule part of the whole. What cast doubt |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 08:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Since you have called me a nut burger by inference, |
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bemis12
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Mon Jan-03-05 08:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Link |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 08:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. thanks for the link, doesn't refute my point about media attention |
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righteous1
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Mon Jan-03-05 08:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I did nothing of the sort and I inferred no such thing. But I can |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Thanks for the clarification |
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righteous1
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Mon Jan-03-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Thanx....I think, I have a 100 things on what to do but most of them |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 09:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. that may be because |
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righteous1
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Mon Jan-03-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #49 |
63. Yes, but what I debate here can have an extremely important affect |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 11:30 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Which is why you are advocating |
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righteous1
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Mon Jan-03-05 08:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. They threatened people at gunpoint. It's not an obscure fact |
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McCamy Taylor
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
22. There is CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE that Blackwell has violated OHIO Law |
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ClassWarrior
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Good point. |
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righteous1
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Mon Jan-03-05 07:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Namely ? n/t |
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seriousstan
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Mon Jan-03-05 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
39. “Clear and convincing evidence” |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 08:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. thanks Stan, especially the "not to the extent of criminal cases" |
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Misskittycat
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Mon Jan-03-05 09:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. But you get court-enforced discovery before trial. |
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bemis12
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Mon Jan-03-05 09:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. You do when you're charging fraud |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 09:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. but they aren't charging fraud |
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bemis12
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Mon Jan-03-05 10:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. I'm afraid you're incorrect |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 10:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. I'm not - you misquote |
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Misskittycat
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Mon Jan-03-05 10:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Fraud requires pleading with greater particularity than general civil |
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righteous1
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Mon Jan-03-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. If you look at the quote from the Ohio SC concerning expidited |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 11:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Don't you think the public has the right |
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mzmolly
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Mon Jan-03-05 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
64. Your correct actually. Conyers framed the issue as "debate and dialogue" |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 11:25 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Thanks mzmolly - and to add to that thought |
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mzmolly
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Mon Jan-03-05 11:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Indeed. SPINE is a necessary element. |
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madbelgiancow
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Mon Jan-03-05 11:43 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Talking about spine, |
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madbelgiancow
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Tue Jan-04-05 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
71. final kick and off to work |
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