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Wed Jan-12-05 11:35 AM
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| Poll question: Who's for renaming this forum the Bush Impeachment forum? |
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:41 AM
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I think the issue of Election Integrity is very important. I say call the forum "Election Watch" or something similar.
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:44 AM
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| 2. I agree, Election Integrity and Reform. |
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Wed Jan-12-05 03:57 PM
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| 27. I voted no because I want a separate impeachment forum. I'll join. |
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:46 AM
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| 3. Accountability for future elections is the issue |
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Bush will be gone soon enough.
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:47 AM
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| 4. Not that I don't agree with the sentiment, but I voted "Other" |
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I could live with separate forums, but I definitely think a specific forum on Election Reform is needed.
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:47 AM
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| 5. Other. Suggest: "Prove My Vote Counts, Now" (n/t) |
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:50 AM
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| 6. A separate * Impeachment Forum would be good, though. n/t |
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:55 AM
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| 8. Absolutely. The issues are different. n/t |
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:32 PM
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| 13. I agree! There are many reasons to impeach him! Maybe |
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we can also have a Bush, the Criminal Board where we can discuss all of his trespasses againt humanity.
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:17 PM
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A "rap sheet" for ThugCo!
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:31 PM
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| 23. lol! A girl can dream, can't she??? ;) |
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I prefer the People vs. SociopathsRUs!
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:54 AM
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| 7. I vote NO...leave it as it is... |
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I think we are still posting about "2004 Election Results and Discussion". This is not just the Kerry-Bush race, either: there were other races and issues on ballots (how about Martinez in Florida, for example?). If * gets impeached so much the better but that may be for other reasons than *just* cheating on the election.
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:59 AM
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| 9. Election Integrity & Reform should be the new name of this |
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form, and a new one created on impeadhing B* & C*.
It may be that election fraud will be the one that brings them down, but the two should be kept separate, as there are/will be many more crimes of the * administration.
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:08 PM
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| 10. There's so much work to be done here on the stolen election, |
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And yes, we really DO need a Impachment Forum too.
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:26 PM
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:29 PM
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| 12. Separate issues. Impeachment could come any number of ways. |
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This election is a turning point in U.S. electoral history, and deserves its own forum, IMO.
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:05 PM
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| 14. I like "Freedom Finding Forum" best |
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Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 01:08 PM by Horse with no Name
but feel that it should just drop the 2004 and simply call it Election Results and Discussion to prevent anyone from getting lost. We will be concentrating on the next elections so the 2004 is getting a little obsolete. Edited before I get flamed,lol, not saying that what happened is obsolete--it surely isn't and will be proven in time--but just dropping the year so that we can get everyone in the right place. Thats just one woman's opinion.:bounce:
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:22 PM
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| 19. I feel otherwise, HWNN. |
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Election 2004 is an ongoing CRIMINAL Investigation.
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:34 PM
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Elections 2006 and 2008 are crimes in progress. Just want to make sure we have everyone in the right place to investigate 2004 but keeping their eyes on the next elections.
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Wed Jan-12-05 02:01 PM
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However, 2K4 is an ongoing crime, as well.
Look at all the malfeance since the polls closed. Most recently, Blackwell's letter.
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:19 PM
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| 16. The specificity of this forum is needed. nt |
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:20 PM
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Impeachment is phase II. Here we go.
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:22 PM
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| 18. You have to show Bush KNEW a crime was being committed. |
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For the proof, I think you would have to have him on tape, or on video talking about committing a crime or urging others to commit a crime. Otherwise, no impeachment.
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:24 PM
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Is that the standard on which Clinton was impeached???
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:27 PM
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| 21. right, like clinton had a tape ..... |
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Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 01:31 PM by Karenca
Why do you post on this forum, if no other reason than to try to dissuade us from continuing our efforts?
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:31 PM
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| 22. I voted "Other." I think it's getting ahead of ourselves. |
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There is no hope for impeachment (no matter what Bush does--really!) until we get back our right to vote.
I think we can do it in a year, with highly focused, local grass roots groups working in each jurisdiction--state, county--to achieve...
A) paper ballots B) hand counts
or, at least
A) a first count paper receipt (takes precedence over electronic tally in any recount) B) open source code
and C) honest Exit Polls to check for fraud (like they do everywhere else in the civilized world).
Most people would agree that elections should be fair. We have more influence locally than in Congress.
Congress is a positive menace on this issue, in my opinion--and, in any case, the BushCons are NOT going to give us back our right to vote. It's not going to happen.
So WE have to do it. And we can! Then...
WE are the majority. I'm firmly convinced of this. Kerry won by AT LEAST %5, possibly more. Those who want sanity in our government, and no pre-emptive war, are the majority. (Just look at the polls! Bush approval rating at 48%--the lowest of any 2nd term president since WWII. And almost 60% disapprove of the war.)
So, we CAN elect a progressive Congress in 2006. We have the numbers. If we can only get our votes COUNTED!
Paper ballots now! Impeachment later!
I think we should call it the "Paper Ballots Now (because of Election Fraud in 2004)" Forum.
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Wed Jan-12-05 02:25 PM
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| 26. When I asked the admins whether this forum ought to be renamed... |
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...Skinner's reply indicated that the forum was serving the purpose it was designed to with the current name.
:shrug:
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