Andy Stephenson has hepatitis & needs our help.

[greatauntoftriplets]

Andy was diagnosed with infectious hepatitis on Wednesday. He is extremely sick and has been ordered to six weeks bed rest. Right now, his state of mind is extremely low -- as is to be expected.

This means that he is unable to work for the next six weeks -- and with the large sum of money that BBV owes him still unpaid -- that he is in serious financial straits. The bottom line is: Andy needs our help.

If you can, please visit PayPal at www.paypal.com and make a donation to [e-mail] .

Thanks to all of Andy's friends.

[KingoftheJungle]

1. Hepatitis what? C?

I just want to have hope he isn't going to die on us

[greatauntoftriplets]

2. Infectious.

He'll be okay if he rests.

[garybeck]

4. NO, it's A

[KingoftheJungle]

26. I got that from food poisoning once. Made me really sleepy and naseaus

for a few weeks. At least he'll get better...

[Name removed]

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[Wilms]

37. I saw a kid bash his head open falling off a bike.

He wasn't wearing a helmet, so it didn't meet my strict criteria for helping out.

I made a few disparaging comments, though, and moved happily along with my rather 'progressive outlook'.

Actually, UN-DETERMINEDPROGRESIVE, I'm sorry that your post met your own criteria for decency.

I think it appalling

[Name removed]

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[Wilms]

43. I didn't say you were not entitled.

Rather, I gave you MY opinion that "I'm sorry that your post met your own criteria for decency." and that (my opinion, again) "I think it appalling."

[gkhouston]

3. thanks for the heads up

good thing it's payday. Please keep us posted as to his progress.

[garybeck]

5. is it appropriate to discuss this here?

people's health is a private matter. andy told some people what was up in a smaller setting. I also thought about posting something but wasn't sure if it was appropriate here.

[greatauntoftriplets]

7. Andy helped me write this....

And I have Skinner's permission.

[garybeck]

11. OK then, good work!

prayers for andy's quick recovery

[Amaryllis]

34. Good for Skinner! Thank you Skinner for letting us do this.

[Horse with no Name]

6. This is awful

My wishes for a speedy recovery.
One question though? Hepatitis A can be a foodborne illness.
Has he eaten with any freepers lately?

[helderheid]

8. done!

Wasn't much but all I can give right now. If enough of us pitch in even just a little, we can make a huge difference for Andy who has worked SO HARD with us.

[wildflower]

9. I wanted to nominate this for the new page of important threads -

the 'Greatest' page - so that people will see it and donate.

Would that be okay?

-wildflower

[greatauntoftriplets]

15. I would be honored!

Thanks.

And thanks to all who donate...offer prayer...or send moral support to Andy.

:loveya:

[wildflower]

17. Well it looks like you've got lots of recommendations now...

My best to you both.

-wildflower

[qanda]

10. I cannot give right now

But certainly would, if I could. I do send my prayers and well wishes for a speedy recovery.

[dogindia]

12. oh Andy you have done and been through so much

You will repair. Rest. Take great cheer in what you have accomplished.

Great recovery.

[On the Road]

13. That's Very Sad

I tried to give $50, but it looks like it will take a few days. I wasn't registered on PayPal, and they don't activate it immediately.

[Misunderestimator]

14. Thanks for posting... hope he gets better soon.

sent a bit his way...

[satya]

16. Thanks for letting us know. nt

[DearAbby]

18. Andy Best thoughts with you...REST and HEAL

[helderheid]

19. kick

[Kevin Spidel]

20. solidarity and thoughts

Andy,

We just got word, and we are here at a PDA staff retreat. All wanted to send our thoughts to you. I have gone with out pay for some time or else I would gladly give you a few bucks. I told the crew here this offer and forwarded them this request. I hope it will get some support your way.

Love,
Kevin Spidel

[Helga Scow Stern]

21. I'm lighting a candle for you, Andy,

and for the new CA secretary of state's integrity.

[dzika]

22. done.

With all these good vibes, I'm certain that Andy will feel better soon.

[crispini]

23. Done

:kick:

[fooj]

24. Andy- we're all pulling for you! Feel better!

Hey- I still owe you that plate of enchiladas!:loveya: Get well so you can collect!! We love you!!!!

[keepthemhonest]

33. Hey Fooj

how are you, just make sure when you buy him those enchiladas it's from a place that has passed a health inspection, thus no more incidences of HEP A for Andy.

[fooj]

57. Straight from my VERY CLEAN kitchen!! California style, baby!

[keepthemhonest]

81. AH I see

I am so jealous, how can I get in on this one.Hee hee

Hopefully they will check his gallbladder and find a stone lodged in the neck or something silly like that and then they can just remove the gallbladder. I am hoping for a quick fix and good outcome for Andy.Then he can have some of those delicious enchiladas, girl.Take care , good to see you.

[emlev]

25. Would a petition to bbv re: paying Andy be helpful? n/r

[helderheid]

32. Can't hurt!

[Kelvin Mace]

56. Bev owes Andy a ton of money.

Petition hell! If you know where she is going to be, post it. We can go there and demand she pay up. She got a nice chunk of money from her California suit, never mind what she got from folk's here.

She also has Andy's laptop (they are demanding he prove he didn't "but it" with BBV money, which is ridiculous since he brought it with him before he was on salary) and owes him salary and expenses.

[garybeck]

66. i'm lost in this

Am I supposed to hate Bev or what? does her work still not stand on its own? i mean, BBV.org does have some good info on it. should I not send people to the website because of her personality problems?

[Kelvin Mace]

92. You have to make your own call

Ms. Harris has displayed VERY erratic behaviour and has slandered a number of fellow activists and supporters. She single-handedly poisoned the well with Keith Oberlmann and Randi Rhodes.

Quite a bit of the information she has produced came from other sources, such as Roxanne and her team.

She claims that George Bush is now in her corner, so make of that what you will.

[bailey77]

71. It would be the corporation, not the person, who may (or may not) owe

I have worked on issues like these before.

To pick a nit:

"Bev Harris" does not owe Andy Stephenson.

Black Box Voting, Inc. may owe Andy Stephenson if he has properly documented any expenses. Such payments may or may not be overdue, depending on when he submitted substantiating documents and the request, and whether he submitted a clean request (i.e. one which contains no unauthorized expenses) or one that mixes in nonexistent, personal, or unauthorized items, thus requiring someone in accounting to verify every line item.

If the amount requested was submitted late, or includes amounts that are not properly documented, or amounts that are not authorized, it tends to delay disbursement.

If the structure of the corporation includes a board of directors (and a 501c(3) must be structured in that manner), it would be the ultimate decision of the board whether to pay Andy Stephenson.

1. Who signs the checks?
2. Who authorizes disbursements of "several thousand dollars"?
3. When were the expenses submitted?
4. Were the expenses authorized, documented properly, and appropriate?
5. Are there other issues (i.e., for the computer, did it contain work done for hire?) It probably did. If Andy Stephenson accepted a salary, his work product belongs to the corporation, not to him.

Are there any other employees? Have they experienced similar problems? Has anyone asked Black Box Voting what's going on?

It seems highly unlikely to me that an entire board of directors would agree to refuse to pay legitimate expenses. My guess is that this is an accounting issue, an issue of when the reports were submitted, and an issue of which expenses are legitimate. I've seen these kinds of employment disputes before, and I take one-sided claims like this with a large grain of salt.

Just my two cents,

Erin

[Jo March]

90. To most folks, BBV.com is Bev Harris

And it was Bev Harris who came to DU to ask for money, post info, etc.

It was Bev Harris who wrote about Andy on the bbv site.

That's why Bev is being mentioned here.

[Kelvin Mace]

93. You don't knwo Bev Harris

It seems highly unlikely to me that an entire board of directors would agree to refuse to pay legitimate expenses. My guess is that this is an accounting issue, an issue of when the reports were submitted, and an issue of which expenses are legitimate. I've seen these kinds of employment disputes before, and I take one-sided claims like this with a large grain of salt.

The board pretty much does as she says. She is a very petty and vindictive opportunist who has made a lot of money for herself (her corporation) on the backs of other people's work. At the same time, her behaviour has brought great discredit on the anti-BBV issue.

There are probably a dozen people at DU who have been a victim of her treachery.

David Allen
www.blackboxvoting.com
www.thoughtcrimes.org

[Senator]

27. Andy! ...The Hat!... I forgot to tell you...

...it has magical healing powers!



Andy keepin' his eyes on the evildoers.

Cheer up. And don't rush the recovery!

-------

[greatauntoftriplets]

30. That is quite some hat and photo....

Thanks, Senator and everyone else on this thread.

[coffeenap]

28. Oh, thanks for that photo--now I will have it always...

Best wishes Andy. Daniel and I wish you the best and have already visited PayPal. D says it was good to talk to you and he has decided to use less water and electricity to contribute to your expenses. That's my boy!

[consciousobjector]

29. Get well soon Andy...

at least now you will have to get some rest...

I don't have any funds, but you have my prayers. Sending you lots of healing vibes....O8)

[rigel99]

31. speedy recovery Andy, will ask Georgians to Donate too....

hope you are feeling better soon, we really need you man...
your work here is not finished, so I will ask my GA citizens to contribute to your site as well... I just donated...

get better soon!
rigel99

[slutticus]

35. OMG! I hope he gets better soon...

What's the prognosis?

[greatauntoftriplets]

38. Update from Andy.

First, he loves every one of you and thanks you.

Second, the free clinic that diagnosed him called him back in to run some more tests. After that, they are sending him to a hospital for an ultrasound and more tests. We don't know what this means, and cdertainly have no idea if they will admit him or not.

When I have more news, I will post it.

Thanks all.

[helderheid]

40. Thanks for keeping us posted

Tell him we love him too.

[flyarm]

61. they most likely are looking to make sure..

his liver is not inflamed..its a side effect of h-a..

ohhh god andy...my kindest thoughts and prayers for you dear boy!!

you have had to endure too much!!
stay in bed..drink lots and lots of water!!
and clear soup!!
clear jello!!

and lots of love to you andy..a steady diet of that!!

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :hug: :hug: :hug: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :hug: :hug: :hug:

fly

[rumpel]

39. Get well soon Andy.

[EstimatedProphet]

41. Get well buddy

Hepatitis is noting to laugh at-I've had Hep A twice and B, plus jaundice and gall bladder removal.
REST.
Keep your fluids up, and eat even though you don't want to.
Watch a lot of TV, and rent movies if you can too-keep yourself entertained and it may help with the itching. Antihistamines help a little too.

[roguevalley]

44. Andy, my mom had this. You will get over it but its slow. DO what

the doctors tell you, honey, and god bless you.

[Horse with no Name]

45. self-delete

Site has changed and only accepts auction payments. Sorry.

[BigBearJohn]

46. Done. I sent him some money.

[housewolf]

47. Is he with you?

Or at home? Or with someone else who is looking out for him? I'm just hoping that he's not alone somewhere...

I am so sorry this has happened.

Prayers and well-wishes...

[librechik]

48. I had that. It's pretty horrible.

Get better soon, Andy!

[Wilms]

49. Consider Chinese Medicine, Andy.

It's possible, also, to supplement western care with it.

I've received some really good treatment (and lots of satisfying my curiosity about it) using College Clinics.

Charges were @$10, and that's when it wasn't "Free Friday" or something.

You're in the Pacific Northwest? They're into it up there.

Here are some college links, there may be others you could ask around for.

<http://gancao.net/aculinks/phpHoo2.php3?viewCat=130>

Enchiladas are definitely out.

May the Chi be with you.

[KaryninMiami]

50. I am on the phone with Andy now- he thanks everyone!!!

No news until Monday--however-- it's not Hep A, B or C-- his liver enzymes are 10X normal which has the doctor very worried. Ruled out lots of other things- more tests in the hospital on Monday.

He appreciates everyone's support, prayers and love! He's feeling very down and worried so please keep sending those- they will make a difference!


(Private note from me- Andy is especially concerned about money right now since as many of us know, he is in between jobs and cannot afford huge medical expenses. He could use some financial help. Please email him for his address if you can send money and it doesn't work using the paypal system mentioned in the initial post. His email address is there too- but here it is again must in case: @ [e-mail].

Also, perhaps if everyone emails BBV and Bev to ask them to send him the money he is owed, she might consider helping out. For all of us who sent her money when she needed help- let's remind her that now is the time for her to rise to the occasion.)

Karyn

[rockedthevoteinMA]

79. I can't send any money right now, but let him know he's in our

prayers. If he has the chance, or someone can get it for him, he should get some milk thistle. It's an herbal remedy for the liver - they're in the process of approval for treatment of liver disease/hepatitis in Germany. When I had Hep. my doc told me to take it, and it did wonders.
I hope he has a speedy recovery. Sending my best wishes. :hug:

[Synnical]

51. Sent some funds - but does this set a strange precedent?

Please don't flame me - just expressing a thought.

Will there be calls for donations more frequently when say, a DU'er gets laid off or has a medical bill? Not to say that such calls for help aren't worthy and right, just concerned that some might take advantage of our generosity.

Hope you get better and soon, Andy! Thanks for all your work on our behalf.

[berniew1]

52. He should look into getting a Vit C/mineral IV; when help lots

and causes no harm. It can make a huge difference. Is commonly used by those who know for such purposes.

There are also other things that help. Boost immune system.

[bunny planet]

53. done!

I hope he feels better soon. Didn't he just get a new job?

[greatauntoftriplets]

54. Yes, but at the moment he is on bed rest and cannot work.

No work, no money and Bev owes him lots for work completed.

Perhaps he can after he gets the results of hospital tests next Monday. We have to see what the doctor tells him.

[Cha]

55. My thoughts and prayers for a

speedy healthy recovery, Andy. :hug:

[goodboy]

58. What else can we do for Andy besides the obvious donations?

Andy, you can come stay with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[goodboy]

59. also, sue that fucking restaurant that poisoned you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[salin]

60. Andy, you have done so much for others...

now it is time to do for yourself... and let go of the worries of "how" it will get taken care of. Those worries can keep you from getting the rest and care that you desperately need - and won't change the financial situation. You have many, many supporters who will try to help out the latter situation - but only you can take care of the first. Please take care of yourself. You have done great work -and I believe that there is more work in your system that will yet be done in the future.

[Lizzie Borden]

62. kick!

:kick:

[Melissa G]

63. My understanding is that Bev has his computer and owes him mega thousands

of dollars. Any one who knows Bev please call, ask or write her to pay Andy and give him back his computer that is a model waaayyy older than possible to have been bought new by BBV. Keep sending Good Thoughts and Love Andy's way!

[bailey77]

72. 'Bev' does not owe 'Andy'.

Black Box Voting, Inc. MAY owe Andy Stephenson, depending on what was originally agreed to and what has been substantiated with appropriate documentation.

1. Is Bev Harris even a signer on the corporate checking account?
2. Does Bev Harris do payroll?
3. Is Bev Harris the accountant?
4. Does Bev Harris have the authority to tell the board of directors and the accountant to refuse to pay amounts due, if they are properly documented and authorized?

Though it is apparent from the posts in this thread that Andy Stephenson talks to many people about the specifics of what he feels he is owed, in an employment matter, gossip to friends is simply not relevant. Disbursements are paid when appropriate documentation is provided to the decisionmakers who are authorized to write the checks.

I find it unusual (and somewhat inappropriate) to see an employment matter discussed on an internet chat forum, especially if the employer is never asked for the other side of the story. Perhaps more fact-checking is in order.

Here is a point that perhaps no one here has considered: If Black Box Voting, Inc., as a 501c(3) nonprofit, pays Andy Stephenson for personal or inappropriate expenses, this is likely to be viewed by the IRS and by donors as unjust enrichment. Items like phone calls to one's mother, cigarettes, and pajamas will be questioned by the IRS if paid by a nonprofit without documentation to show how, when, and why these items were authorized in the first place.

Just my two cents,

Erin

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

73. LOL then why are you discussing it?

Bev is a fucking schuyster and her reputation preceeds her...

[New Earth]

75. shh faye

:hi:

[RetroLounge]

78. So you just happenned to sign on here now

so you could discuss that this matter shouldn't be discussed.

:eyes:

RL

[Stephanie]

83. Thanks Bev

Long time no see. Please pay Andy what you owe him. Thanks!

[Laurab]

94. LOL - I agree. Bev - I donated to BBV twice

I want you to pay Andy what you owe him, too - ASAP!

[Kelvin Mace]

104. And give him back the laptop

you are "keeping" for him.

[Kelvin Mace]

103. Amazing!

This is the second time you have posted on this. I answered you above, yet you (with your shiny new account) seem VERY concerned about making this distinction.

You know what? I don't give a rat's ass about the legalitites. Bev Harris has a MORAL obligation to PAY the money SHE owes him. If she has a problem with the definition of "moral obligation", there are plenty of folks here who would be happy to explain it to her in very small words.

Thank you for your two cents. Do pass along ours to Bev.

David Allen
www.blackboxvoting.com
www.thoughtcrimes.org

[bailey77]

108. Yes, I know Bev.

I know all ten people who are with Black Box Voting.

Eight of them concur with the official version of events on the "Soap Opera of the Day" forum at bbv. Two (one board member and one employee) joined the organization in February and would have no reason to know.

One person -- Andy Stephenson, a disgruntled employee who was terminated for cause -- has a different point of view, and apparently some members of Democratic Underground, perhaps including the management of this forum, believe that it is the American Way to provide only one side of the story.

There are two sides of the story, and the readers of this forum should be entitled to both sides if it is to be discussed at all.

Now, if you will kindly provide the name of any nonprofit 501c(3) organization that pays for cigarettes, five months of personal phone calls, or underwear, or pays for expenses before getting any expense reports please list those organizations here.

Of course, since BBV has written on its rebuttal at Soap Opera of the Day (BBVforums.org) that they consulted a lawyer after the extortion attempt which ocurred here on DU, apparently they DO "give a rat's ass about legalities."

Now, of course, it turns out that he only had gallstones. Another BBV employee has gallstones. Should there be a collection taken up for her, too?

Erin

[Stephanie]

109. Bev, you seem to have missed something. Nobody believes you any more.

Why are you here at DU posting about Andy's underwear? Just cut him a check and be done with it.

[smartvoter]

112. Amen!!!

[Kelvin Mace]

111. Ah, now the truth comes out. You are a BBV proxy

One person -- Andy Stephenson, a disgruntled employee who was terminated for cause -- has a different point of view, and apparently some members of Democratic Underground, perhaps including the management of this forum, believe that it is the American Way to provide only one side of the story.

Let's see, who do we believe? Bev Harris who we have caught in repeated lies and a long history of erratic and abusive behaviour that dozens of people, including folks like reporters and Keith Olbermann's staff are all too familiar with? Or Any, who many people also know and have worked with who has no such history?

No one is stopping Bev from posting her point of view. She has a forum and she doesn't permit any of us to post to it, so how is this any different than her situation here?

There are two sides of the story, and the readers of this forum should be entitled to both sides if it is to be discussed at all.

You are certainly right. There are always two sides to stories involving Bev. Her side and the truth.

Now, if you will kindly provide the name of any nonprofit 501c(3) organization that pays for cigarettes, five months of personal phone calls, or underwear, or pays for expenses before getting any expense reports please list those organizations here.

I believe Andy will address these distortions. So, I'll let him explain it himself.

Of course, since BBV has written on its rebuttal at Soap Opera of the Day (BBVforums.org) that they consulted a lawyer after the extortion attempt which ocurred here on DU, apparently they DO "give a rat's ass about legalities."

"Extortion"? Ooooo, we have learned some big words, haven't we. The libel never stops with you folk, does it?

David Allen
www.blackboxvoting.com
www.thoughtcrimes.org

[Al-CIAda]

64. Sent him some cash. Thanks for all you've done! -eom

[Cooley Hurd]

65. Cripes! Poor Andy...

:(

I'll donate immediately & please send him my best and hopes for a speedy recovery.:hi:

[greatauntoftriplets]

88. Thanks all!

:loveya:

[althecat]

67. Hi Andy..

Hopefully my small donation will help and other folks around here are helping to.

:yourock:

Cheers GAOTs... well done.

al

[Name removed]

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[bailey77]

69. Perhaps this will help expedite things for Andy

1. Itemize past due salary. Include substantiation documents and dates. For example: Dates the work was done, what was done, documents or agreements as to the pay scale that was agreed upon for the work.

2. Itemize any expenses and submit receipts. Show the dates when expense reports were submitted for these. Include a copy of the expense report.

3. Propose a time and place to pick up personal items (most employees clean out their desk when they leave; I'm new here, and perhaps it's been explained before why he left his computer there in the first place.

Normally when an employee is on a fixed salary, there is no additional payment for "work performed" -- therefore, I am assuming that Andy Stephenson is alleging that a pay period was missed? Identify which pay period was missed. Or, if he alleges that an additional amount over and above salary should have been paid, he would be expected to produce evidence that an additional agreement had been reached for compensation, and in that event, would need to produce evidence that the work was completed.

The documentation of requests for reimbursement on employment-related claims makes all the difference. It says on the website that Black Box Voting Inc. is a nonprofit 501c(3). Therefore it has a board of directors.

I would doubt that Bev Harris would have the authority to refuse to pay him. He should address all correspondence to the board of directors, and it should be sent certified mail, not by email and certainly not by posting it on an internet chat forum.

Key questions: Who signs the checks for the corporation? This would be the person who should be provided with documentation of the work performed/agreements/missing paychecks.

After looking over the site, it seems unlikely that Bev Harris would be the one signing and sending paychecks. The amount of travel for that job description makes it unlikely that they would have had her doing the paychecks.

I would doubt that an entire board of directors would refuse to pay someone their wages. In companies where I have worked, these issues are usually actually caused by the employee requesting funds that were never agreed to, or failing to provide proper documentation (i.e. mixing in personal expenses, which slows disbursement because the accounting department then has to verify every expense).

What date was the documentation provided by Andy Stephenson? Did he file his expense reports as soon as he returned from his trips, which is customary, or did he file them after his termination? If they were not filed until after his termination, when were they filed? My experience, and this was with a major law firm, is that if expense reports are not filed until after termination, especially if they also contain personal items, it may take a few weeks to pay them.

One further situation that can delay payment: If Andy Stephenson has also retained equipment that belongs to Black Box Voting, it may be that they have asked to have the equipment returned at the same time he picks up his things. Or, they may have asked him to sign a release when picking up the equipment, stating that he picked it up.

I would guess that this situation has more to it than meets the eye. It is extremely unlikely that another employee (i.e. Bev Harris) would have the authority to block payments due to Andy Stephenson if they were submitted timely, properly documented, and appropriate.

Just my two cents.

Erin

[greatauntoftriplets]

70. Thank you!!! Great first post and welcome to DU.

:thumbsup:

[Name removed]

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[Stephanie]

86. Andy needs a labor attorney

If there is a DU attorney who would take on a pro bono case, please contact Andy, or PM me and I will get your info to him. He is in Seattle.

[Name removed]

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[Stephanie]

84. .

[Laurab]

95. It's a kind person who will join DU and immediately jump in a thread

to "help" Andy 3 times. Very thoughtful, too. As I said in another post, I donated to BBV twice, before I learned of certain practices of Bev's which made me hesitant to donate any more money to that particular cause. However, I'm quite sure if she wanted Andy to be paid, he would be paid.

Sadly, a person who is ill and without funds is really not in a position to jump into a legal battle about money due him. I'm sure there is more than meets the eye, but I really think Bev should re-think her position on this, and treat her former employee as a human being should be treated. Once again, with all due respect, I am quite sure Ms. Harris could ensure that Andy was paid, if, in fact, she wanted to.

[troubleinwinter]

101. How long have you been associated with BBV.org, and what is the nature of

of that association?

Would this be a reference to you? "...we went over all these matters with an employment attorney recently..." ~Bev Harris

What political issues and concerns discussed here on Democratic Underground (other than your three messages regarding Andy) are of interest to you? Lots of people here will be pleased to help and direct you to those.

If your ONLY concern is legal advocacy for Bev or BBV, perhaps this is not the proper place.

[VelmaD]

74. Thank you to everyone in this thread...

and to greatauntoftriplets for starting it. I know y'all's support means the world to Andy. Means the world to me too. :grouphug:

:kick:

[KaryninMiami]

76. Kick and sending love to you Andy (in case you're checking in)

Talk to you soon- and thanks to everyone for sending their prayers and support to helping Andy get better. He will need this in the weeks ahead and hearing from everyone how much he is loved and appreciated is great for his healing process.

(AND Andy - if you are checking in here-- get back into bed please. You need to focus your energy on getting better- we need you! )

[Melissa G]

77. Kick for Andy ! n/t

[auntAgonist]

80. kick

[greatauntoftriplets]

85. Thanks all!!!!

Andy really appreciates you all. And, as his friend, so do I.

And thanks to Skinner for letting me post this.

[greatauntoftriplets]

89. Kick to the top of the page so more can see this....

:bounce:

[satya]

91. Kick. nt

[redacted]

96. KICK

[bettyellen]

97. .

[greatauntoftriplets]

98. A kick for Andy....

He called me around 8 his time this morning, saying he was fine and wasn't going to go to the hospital for tests. Unfortunately, his symptoms hadn't disappeared overnight and I talked him into going anyway.

So I assume he is now in the hands of the healthcare jungle.

[bettyellen]

99. i'm glad you spoke to him.......

tks, great aunt.
i hope he had the sense to listen to you.

[greatauntoftriplets]

100. He did....

His mother would have had his ass in a sling otherwise.

;)

[Pacifist Patriot]

102. Get well soon Andy!

[greatauntoftriplets]

105. Thanks all.

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[Lisa0825]

106. Done. I hope it all adds up and helps. (nt)

[greatauntoftriplets]

110. Thanks very much, all.

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[applegrove]

107. Read the book by Naiomi Judd - she apparently beat it and is

actually a very bright person. She studied the issue after she was diagnosed (she had been a nurse in a previous life) and has been in 'remission' for a long time.

I know nothing else except that she really seemed confident and had a handle on her hepatitus. I don't know what type it was.