I GOT QUESTIONS ! BIG QUESTIONS !

[vetwife]

Many of us have spent tons of money....a mountain of time........
a heart of passion.......and time..precious lost time away from families. Here is one of my questions.
What if john Kerry had come out as Bush did on EST while people were still voting and claimed victory? Bush did ! Is that not against the law? HE claimed victory while people were still voting.
All the news channels claimed Victory before the first vote was counted and before anyone knew for sure about anything but inside data. Inside data..what the heck does that mean? When Rove set up his War room..Three hours later Bush says he has it !

The stations were warned about exit polls and about calling an election but they did it anyway and Bush even called it while people were standing in line to vote. Where is the outrage of this and why did Kerry/Edwards not call them on this? Why did none of the Democratic leadership? Does appearing before a Senate committee mean nothing anymore?

My question...WHERE IS EVERYONE LIKE MOVE ON AND EVERYONE ELSE OUTRAGED ABOUT A DECLARED VICTORY BEFORE THE FIRST BALLOT WAS COUNTED AND PEOPLE WERE STILL VOTING ! Talk about disenfranchisement and what about our young people, they will never trust or go out and vote again IMO unless this is challenged along with BBV. Talk about people like me. Why bother if no one challenges anyone !

[Pacifist Patriot]

1. Victory and concession speeches have pretty much always

been given before the votes are completely counted. Nothing shocking there.

As for the rest of it, I have the same question.

I've been wondering what MoveOn and ACT and other groups are doing with respect to the voting irregularities. Is Bev the only one actively persuing this? Sometimes it feels like that.

[vetwife]

2. I would agree except there was instructions by the government not to

do that anymore..Only if it were a landslide..Which there wasn't. How would they even know who was ahead? The clearly said exit polls were not to be part of the equation. Gues what I was not asked how I voted ! No exit poll there.

[Pacifist Patriot]

6. Instructions by the government and federal election law are two

different beasts. Considering Bush is the government is it any wonder? He makes the instructions. Okay, not really, but you know what I'm saying. The man believes he's above the law. Natural law, civic law and God's law.

[tngledwebb]

13. Agreed, but

BushCoInc ( aka PNAC Evil-doers) is really the Govt, Shrub is just their cute little mascot. I'd be surprised if there is anything in his head at all save a pre-adolescent psychopathic streak. Only instead of blowing up frogs he gets to blow up thousands of innocent civilians and soldiers. But I bet he misses denying pardons to Texas death row inmates more than anything in the whole world.

[Pacifist Patriot]

14. Very true.

When I use the term President Bush or Bush administration I'm really referring to both him and his puppeteers.

[vetwife]

15. There is no Prez Bush..True ...Just a lot of people pulling strings !

[Boredtodeath]

8. No, Bev is NOT the only one actively pursuing this

Those of us interested in real, verifiable research are doing the hard work instead of primping for the cameras and begging for money.

MoveOn and ACT are working privately in the background, where the work belongs until the proof is compiled and ready to be presented.

The strategy of giving these crooks a heads up on public message boards and blogs is wrongheaded.

Answer a simple question....do attorneys build their case and strategy in full view of the opponent? Neither should we.

[vetwife]

10. I said the same thing you said last week.. Does that mean they don't

inform their base. Their donors? Even by private email?

[Pacifist Patriot]

12. Thank you. I think that's all I needed to hear.

Reason tells me that this has to be the case, but every once in awhile my rational abilities need a little stroke.

[KoKo]

16. Thanks for the caution on this. You are correct...blabbing everything we

are finding only alerts the trolls and operatives here. I often forget myself how vulnerable we are, here. Whatever we find out, "the trolls" will be preparing a way to counter.

As much as we are impatient, we have to find ways to help move the issue along by PM'ing each other or something.

I'm as frustrated as everyone else...I feel sick over this election...but have to hope that it's being worked on...rather than shoved under the run like 2000.

[vetwife]

17. Exactly and

where is my email from someone saying "We got your back" don't worry, we won't let you down. We have ads coming out. We got this one nailed down. We are holding people accountable. Why are the only emails that I am getting is from people who are like the kid at ground zero? Please...can someone answer that Big question ? Some won't be around or have the heart for 2006. I agree with your summation but I haven't received any mail like this. If I post what I have received people would be crying and kicking !

[L84TEA]

3. I am not a big fan of

Move on.
They pissed me off early in the election process.

BUT they had good intentions, you would think they would want to get involved in this fraud stuff also.
Have you checked their website?

[vetwife]

4. Yep..basically they are talking 2006 and 2008 you know, Move on !

Pretty much saying where we went wrong and Move on. Or that is what they were saying two days ago.

[vetwife]

7. Here is the website..Go figure ! Not one mention of Voter fraud or

exit polling other than they got it wrong.
http://www.moveon.org/front/

[Pacifist Patriot]

5. Their website has zero mention of anything suspicious

from what I can tell at an admittedly quick glance. I'm juggling online time with entertaining a 17 month old.

[vetwife]

9. I figured the R out a long time ago..Now the left has to deal with me !

I am cancelling all my Move on, all the PAC subscriptions and they will never get another dime from me. I suggest they deal with you also !

[vetwife]

11. I keep thinking of Skinner and Will..Skinner packing his bags and

heading to Ohio Election night and Will getting a brick in the head.
DU is much more powerful in my opinion than Move On. I am moving on allright and holding my money away from people who have left a lot of young people behind as well as the Bush bunch ! think people...Someone should have spoke up from somewhere and said HOLD IT...People are still voting !