MSNBC Reporting on Voting Irregularities(a few minutes ago)

[Woo]

A very short blurb about problems in Ohio was just reported on MSNBC daily news coverage --

Then... was followed up by a story about a woman in critical condition after being attacked by a Turkey --

This reporting isn't much -- EXCEPT -- I watch MSNBC all day long and this is the FIRST time I have heard a voting irregularity story on their daily coverage -- outside Countdown and that one day Hardball did a story on it.

Could this mean there's something more to come...?

[imenja]

1. shows their priorities

voting problems to a woman being attacked by a turkey. That's obscene.

[goddess40]

2. just enough so that if something actually happens

they can claim they were on top of it. But they don't want to put too much out there because they don't want anything to happen.

[NJ_Lib]

4. That's exactly what I was thinking...

...Just enough to cover their ass... They make me SICK!

[spotbird]

3. Critical condition after being attacked by a Turkey?!?!!

How'd that happen?

[Magic_Cookie]

5. Hope it wasn't one that Bush just pardoned n/t

[NJ_Lib]

6. Turkeys can get ugly...

Especially if you piss them off... Of course Golden Boy couldn't have been choking a pissed off turkey the other day, huh? Why God? Why?

Edited: The more I sit here and imagine that scene, Chimpy being attacked by a pissed off 20lb turkey, the more upset I am with the powers that be... Can't they just let us have ONE crumb?

[Eurobabe]

8. * cast a voodoo spell on it...in the spirit of Angel Heart

[txindy]

7. Okay, I have to ask...

How big was this turkey?! Or how small is the woman? Geez, critical condition from a turkey attack?

I guess a brief mention of election irregularities is better than nothing.

[Mike Nelson]

9. NO CIGAR AND NOT EVEN CLOSE

I saw the report. It was nothing, really. Don't they read DU?

[babylonsister]

10. Here's the story

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6520848/

RONKONKOMA, N.Y. - A 20-pound frozen turkey was thrown through the windshield of a woman’s moving car, critically injuring her, police said.

The bird was tossed out the window of an oncoming vehicle and slammed through the car’s windshield, hitting the 44-year-old woman driver. A passenger in the car took hold of the steering wheel and guided it to the side of the road, police said.

Police said a group of teenagers had purchased the turkey with a stolen credit card at a supermarket on the same road where the incident happened early Saturday. The teens were being sought for questioning.

The 44-year-old woman was hospitalized in critical condition.

Ronkonkoma is in the approximate geographic center of New York’s Long Island, about 50 miles east of New York City.

[Magic_Cookie]

12. A Frozen Turkey

wow, a 20# iceball coming at you is dangerous! Talk about freak accident.
Last year a kid in my state threw a 15# or so chunk of ice over a bridge. It ended up crashing through the windshield of a car that was driving by - the woman (a passenger) was killed by it.

[righteous1]

15. Flying turkey

Don't they know turkeys can't fly, especially frozen ones

[whistle]

11. Very good programming, the turkey story will be remembered....

...while the voting irregularities in Ohio will be thought of as a turkey.

[indy_azcat]

13. on the website, they have Bloggerman: Irregular Votes

not 'quite' front and center, but it leads the NBC news highlights. It's another drop in the bucket o' fraud coverage.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

[keepthemhonest]

17. but about that other turkey

who is going to pardon him?

[tbuddha]

14. Two weeks ago there was NO coverage...

It's bubbling up folks...and as it does it gains momentum. We'll get press on the NH recount, not much, but a little and maybe a broadcast statement by Nader.

This weekend in my city, Denver, we're having a protest that should get local coverage. I already got my BBV sign ready!

The Ohio recount should be a doozy. And now Bevs work in FLA seems to be gaining ground with new help from Berkley. Keith O has already blogged about UCBerkley and you can be sure to hear about it on the COuntdown.

We are gaining ground and I'm sure the repugs are scrambling now and second guessing every move. I'm sure some are getting scared and we should see a whistle blower in the next week, probably after the NH recount.

So keep it up everyone, we're gonna win this thing!

[keepthemhonest]

18. great you are protesting

that should help get some coverage maybe we'll see you on the news.
not that I watch it anymore. i am addicted to this site.

are others protesting around the country. I am in atlanta? anyone here?

[kitp]

16. Other press conference

Can't start own thread, yet.

What is this? Anyone know?

http://www.verifiedvoting.org/article.php?id=5259

November 18th, 2004





FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Contact:

Faye Anderson, for the
Election Verification Project
[e-mail]

NEWS ADVISORY


WHAT:

A national coalition of voting rights and computer security experts will hold a post-election press conference to provide a preliminary analysis of electronic voting problems and solutions, and their implications for increasing voters' confidence in the legitimacy of elections.

WHO:

-- Kim Alexander, California Voter Foundation
-- Lillie Coney, National Committee for Voting Integrity/Electronic Privacy Information Center
-- David Dill, Ph.D., Verified Voting Foundation
-- Will Doherty, Verified Voting Foundation / Election Incident Reporting System
-- Chellie Pingree, Common Cause
-- Matt Zimmerman, Electronic Frontier Foundation

WHEN:

Thursday, Nov. 18, 10:30 a.m. to 12 Noon

WHERE:

Cabinet Room
Beacon Hotel and Corporate Quarters (formerly Governor's House Hotel)
1615 Rhode Island Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C.
(Metro Stop: Dupont Circle or Farragut North)

The Election Verification Project is a coalition of technology, legal and voting rights organizations committed to promoting transparency and accountability in the voting process. The Project advances reforms that reduce computerized voting risks, and fosters public confidence in the integrity and accuracy of the electoral process.

[merh]

19. Was it one of the turkeys that the weed that would be king

pardoned? We must find out! (sarcasm) :silly:

I hate the media!

[Woo]

20. Not likely...

Obviously not since it was a frozen turkey -- then again, it's not like you can trust the guy(the turkey learned the hard way)

[merh]

22. He pardoned frozen turkeys?

Yeah, sounds like him, like, what good would that do? :dunce:

[Nicholas_J]

21. Last night I heard that recounts of local eletions

IN Florida and New York resulted in reversals of the originall reported winners with the Democrats winning both local eletions by several thousand bvotes., in one case the election has yet to be called (Florida) but the Democratic candidate is now over 3900 votes ahead in a county that went for BUsh and in which the REpublican local candidate was reportedas having won on election day. The recount shows a significant lead for the Democrat, with not enough votes left for the Republican to actually win. I think that these reversals point to something being wrong in the overall voting process, and that something should be done bout a recount in Florida, because if similar things happened in other counties, the differential would have been enough to change the results in the entire state. This is yet another indicattion along with the overvotes for BUsh in Dade and Broward County. the 89,000 vote erros in Palm Beach county, and now this case of local Repubican election being overturned in yet another county should be a fair indication that something has been done wrong in Florida.

One of the biggest things that is acting as an obsticle to even getting a recount in FLorida is the pride of the Democratic election watchers who are fighting the idea that they were hoodwinked and that Republicans may have figured a way to get rid of votes for Kerry in a way that they did not detect. I was at a meeting where several of us who had witnessed problems wit Votes being cast for Kerry but the final machines on the screen showing that these votes had been given to Bush and had reported these to polls watchers were arguing with one of the higer level people who were supposed to be watching for voter fraud claiming that everything with the machines was fair, and that there was no chance of voter fraud being accomplished by hacking into the touch screen machines. It seemed that they were more concerned with their own reputations that they would not admit that the machines could have been tampered with in spite of evidences from Dade County machines whicu gave almost 4000 votes cast for erry to Bush, the nearly 89,000 bvote anom,aly in Palm Beach County, whgich has yet to be adequately explained (they are trying to say that the 89,000 results from people who did not SIGN IN when entering the poll being able to vote on the machines).RAther than look at the number of events that showed errors in Bush's favor being events that could have occured in other counties (pre-dominanatly REpublican), they are insisting that they were things that only happened in the odd location and could not have occred in other places, such as Republican COunties which had every reason to not report complaints that Votes were miscast. One of the reasons that there is no call to look for further evidence of miscast votes in FLorida comes from local level Democrats who do not want to be found as having failed in their jobs. When I look at the vast majority of poll watchers that they had for the Democrats, many of them were in their 70's and not watching all that closely. Unless the lawyers recieved reports of votes being miscast, they were not activated to investigate. THe venom with which some of these people tried to try to prrovew that no fraud was possible, in the light of evidence that it had occured in some places shocked me. It seems that they deo not want to uncover the possiblity that what happened in five or six places couls have happened in five or six hundred.

[Straight Shooter]

23. 89,000 people is a lot of people to slip past the sign-in stage

That reminds me of a kid with chocolate smeared all over his mouth who denies that he ate the Hershey bar.

[jsamuel]

24. Could you give a link or a name for the Florida one?

[Nicholas_J]

25. As I said

I didnt hear what election in Florida this was refering to. I live in Duval and a woman was telling a story about the recount inFlorida in whihc her brother in law was the candidate, and initially the race had been called for the Republican, but a recount was ordered and as of Tuesday nught, with most of the voes recounted, her brother in law was 39000 odd gotes in the lead. Was not listening to the beginning of what she said where she mentioned the county as I was paying attention to something else, but when she mentioned the turnaround in the results, I started listening.