OK ... here's a winning scenario WITHOUT Ohio

[welshTerrier2]

let's say Kerry loses Ohio and wins all the "supposed to states" in the upper mid-west ... these include michigan, wisconsin, minnesota and iowa ... a Boston pollster has already called NH for Kerry ...

now, if Kerry wins NM and Nevada (and Hawaii), we would be at 269-269 ... an apparent tie ...

HOWEVER, there's one republican elector in west virginia who said he is considering not voting for bush ... if he votes for anyone except bush, the EV totals would be Kerry 269 and bush 268 ... that would be a win for Kerry ...

just considering the possibilities here ... not making a prediction ...

[aden_nak]

1. If it's 269 to 268, Kerry still does not win.

Because you "need" 270. It goes to the House.

[nborders]

3. Maine could send one vote to Bush

they split their electorial votes.

~n

[ajacobson]

5. I think ABC called all Maine ev

for Kerry

[mountainvue]

14. They did. n/t

[settembrini]

4. 270-268

the point is if that elector goes kerry, he'd still win

[Il_Coniglietto]

6. Then the only thing we can do

is whatever it takes to make that one elector go for Kerry. Buy him a nice mansion overlooking some California coastline or something. God this is sad. Where has this country gone?!

[0rganism]

2. If niether candidate has a majority, it goes to the House

Without a complete defection from the WV elector, i.e. he goes to Kerry, it's up to the House.

[Silver Gaia]

8. If Colorado passes the vote-splitting measure

won't that make a portion of those votes go to Kerry? Anyone know how that measure did in Colorado???

[Touchdown]

9. Dead in tha water

Amendment 36

66% No
34% Yes

GOP Block voting against. Dem/Ind undecisive. It never had a chance.

[InhaleToTheChief]

10. AAR said it didn't pass

[Is It Fascism Yet]

20. yes, your right about that

but don't know if the measure passed. if it did pass, it will certainly be challenged by the chimp.

[ajacobson]

7. NM exit polls look good

but the exit polling has been totally fucked compared to the actual results, not good.

[Emboldened Chimp]

11. I don't think we're getting NM...

which means we have to win OHIO. COME ON!

[Rhiannon12866]

12. I heard that Hawaii went to Kerry

And I also heard about that lone West Virginia delegate who doesn't feel that he can vote for Bush*. Al Franken interviewed him last week, and he asked him this exact question, what would he do in the case of a tie? The entire election could rest on his vote, or lack of one. He said that he hopes that doesn't happen. And Maine could also split its delegates. I believe that they have five.:shrug:

[Is It Fascism Yet]

16. yes, i heard that too

and i sure hope he is a man of his word.

[grasswire]

13. wait

Can't a state seat a whole other set of electors in certain circumstances?

Isn't that what FL was going to do in 2000?

[Is It Fascism Yet]

18. yes, i think they could have sent any electors they wanted

but you know what jeb wanted.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

15. Kerry is not losing, all the early vote by mail ballots are his!

Kerry is not losing! His supporters voted early by mail to avoid Diebold cheating. Shrub campaign knows this and has already attempted to get court orders not to count the early mail votes. My vote is in there, and i am pissed at the suggestion...went exactly this same cheating lieing way in 2000.

[Matilda]

24. Still trying to get my head around some of the finer points

of your voting system.

How and why could they possibly not count early mail votes if they're
not illegal?

[PoliticalJihad]

17. Yahoo says Iowa leaning to *

Yahoo says Iowa leaning to the chimp, was leaning to Kerry.

But, still very close:

1822 of 2079 precincts - 88 percent

George W. Bush Rep 676,754 - 50 percent
John F. Kerry Dem 673,933 - 50 percent
Ralph Nader PEC 5,114 - 0 percent

Nader might make a difference here.

[Catherine Vincent]

19. That one elector is probably being paid a lot of money at this minute

by the bushies.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

21. maybe even some repubs know some things are worth more than $

Maybe, have hope, maybe his country is more important than his wallet.

[never_get_over_it]

22. Down in IA and NM

Ohio is the key....this thing was so stolen - I am so sick of these people and I don't think I can take 4 more years

[teryang]

23. Much closer than alleged 3,000,000 vote lead

BBC has Electoral votes at 249/221. Ohio lead for chimp moving down.