Volusia County Lawsuit Filed One Day Late

[wlubin]

I am not sure if this has already been posted. I grabed this off of the Randi Rhodes Message Board.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/orl-locvote24112404nov24,1,4514953.story?coll=orl-news-headlines



"But the lawsuit from DeLeon Springs resident Susan Pynchon, executive director of Florida Fair Elections Coalition, arrived one day late to dispute the outcome of the election under state law, said Elections Supervisor Deanie Lowe."

[s-cubed]

1. one day late

part of the suit is that the elections board stalled.

[tex-wyo-dem]

2. I think Bev eluded to this in the below thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2746037

I don't think BBV's main intent of this lawsuit is to contest the election, rather to gather evidence for future larger battles.

[Blue in the face]

3. What??

"said Elections Supervisor Deanie Lowe"

The same Deanie Lowe that Bev has caught perpetrating election fraud? She gets to make the official pronouncement about whether the lawsuit against her gets to go through? Doesn't that seem odd to anyone?

[TexasChick]

4. This is exactly my thought! Something stinks here! n/t

[Karenca]

5. what happens now?

are we screwed?

i'm so upset.

[ahyums]

6. and the news just gets worse I can't take much more of this tonight

[Karenca]

7. me either n/t

[Karenca]

8. so are we screwwd?

nt

[proudbluestater]

9. Where is the JUSTICE in this country?

The Republican officials in this country, from the bottom of the food chain straight up to the top, willfully and constantly ignore all laws that they don't find convenient or helpful to their cause.

It is high time some of the election officials get arrested for failure to fulfill their legal obligations.

[Blue in the face]

10. Florida certified on Nov 14th

If a lawsuit is filed on Nov 24th, isn't that within the 10 day period?
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/politics/content/news/epaper/2004/11/15/m4b_elex_1115.html
http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/WestVolusia/03WVolWEST01EPOL112404.htm


None of this adds up. I hope that Kerry's people are down there too. There has to be other avenues for a suit, the HAVA law for one...


But reading this really made me ill:

"Hood also:

• Successfully opposed Democrats' attempt to throw presidential candidate Ralph Nader off the ballot. Democrats blamed Nader for Al Gore's Florida loss in 2000. Although he remained on the ballot this year, Nader received just 32,971 votes.

• Tried to keep Democrats from naming a replacement for ailing candidate Jim Stork, dropped out of the race against U.S. Rep. Clay Shaw, R-Fort Lauderdale. A judge later allowed the Democrats to replace Stork with Robin Rorapaugh, but it was too late for her name to appear on the ballot. Shaw beat Rorapaugh by nearly 90,000 votes.

• Prevented the 15 counties that use touch-screen machines from having to provide a voter-verified paper trail, and kept county elections officials from having to accept incomplete voter registration applications, despite legal challenges from Democrats and civil rights groups.

'I was not active in any campaign,' Hood said. '... What I do as secretary of state in the Division of Elections area has nothing to do with politics and has everything to do with reaching out to every individual in this state, and that's exactly what I do. And we restored confidence in the elections process in Florida.'"

Really, Glenda? It has nothing to do with politics? I don't know how Bev has managed not to pop one of these liars.

[pat_k]

12. The hang up on dates is just one example of how fascist thinking has...

Aaarrghhh.

The hang up on dates is just one example of how fascist thinking has infected the people of this nation – across the board.

In law, no date is immutable. There are always exceptions. Always.

In this case, I would think that a judge would be nuts to dismiss the case on the date issue alone. Particularly when it was the stalling by the officials that caused the process to be drawn out.

The law is intended to serve our principles, not thwart them. Election law is intended to ensure that elections detect OUR will. These principles drive legal decisions. Using the letter of the law to trump the goals of the law is fascism in action.

[nodictators]

14. Glenda also did the controversial Florida Felon Purge 2004 list

That's the one that put 22,000 registered black voters on a statewide list for possible purging. There were only 61 registered Hispanic voters on the same list.

CNN and some Florida newspapers sued to see the list, and won.

AP called it a "mistake" and exonerated Glenda and Jeb of any blame. A later story said that Jeb had been warned against using the list.

[WiseFawn]

11. Bev and Florida

Not sure where to post these.

This TV station is reporting great things! Today's is about Florida.
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2605519

And I don't know if anyone's seen this yet.

http://www.breakfornews.com/articles/WhatVoteFraud.htm

[JPZenger]

13. If Information Was Withheld, May be Grounds for Extension

If a County official withheld or delayed information that you requested in writing, and that resulted in a challenge being submitted one day late, I suggest that could be grounds to have your lawsuit heard.

[MarkusQ]

15. They state this in the lawsuit

Right. They stated in the lawsuit that:

5. Plaintiff has been informed that the Volusia County Canvassing Board certified the election results on November 12, 2004. Plaintiff is aware that the statutory deadline for filing this complaint is ten days following the date of that certification. Plaintiff alleges, however, that this complaint should be deemed timely filed for two reasons:

a. The Supervisor of Elections has unreasonably delayed providing information on which this complaint must be based, and still has not provided all of that information. The Canvassing Board is therefore estopped from asserting an untimely filing of this complaint.

b. The certification was based on inadequate and incomplete information regarding the election results, as will more particularly appear, and is, therefore, an invalid certification of those results.

So she's saying it's one day late, but ignoring the fact that they already addressed the issue. Big deal. She'd probably also say that it's baseless, merit-less, and you can't dance to it. But what she says doesn't matter.

This is for the judge to decide.

--MarkusQ