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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 02:10 PM Original message |
If you'd like to see Richard Dawkins as a guest on the Oprah Winfrey Show: |
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Buzz Clik
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Thu May-22-08 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. Ah, perfect. The evangelical atheist on Oprah. |
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Goblinmonger
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Thu May-22-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. What does that even mean? |
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Buzz Clik
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Thu May-22-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. He does NOT just talk about it, he proselytizes and evangelizes with every phrase. |
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gatorboy
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Thu May-22-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Huh. He must have multiple accounts here. |
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Buzz Clik
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Thu May-22-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I never heard the term "evangelical atheist" before my arrival at DU. |
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Goblinmonger
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Thu May-22-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. He makes a case for what he thinks. |
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Buzz Clik
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Thu May-22-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. So, you think I'm religious or sensitive about religion simply because I think he's an evangelist? |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. :::SIGH::: |
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Buzz Clik
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Thu May-22-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. After four hours of listening to him, I'm familiar enough to know he evangelizes. |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Of course he's evangelizing - in the sense that he hopes to win people over to his ideas |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag
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Thu May-22-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
88. It's been a while since I saw a new DU poster I truly liked |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:16 AM Response to Reply #88 |
112. When I read your subject line |
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trotsky
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Fri May-23-08 08:29 AM Response to Reply #20 |
117. He's got that damn British accent you see. |
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Goblinmonger
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Thu May-22-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. So evangelist is positive in your mind |
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Buzz Clik
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Thu May-22-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Evangelizing is great if you totally agree with the evangelist or if you like his style. |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. "The beliefs themselves are not a threat to anyone." |
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alarimer
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Thu May-22-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Religious beliefs are often a threat. |
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Goblinmonger
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Thu May-22-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I could understand your point |
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Buzz Clik
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Thu May-22-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
64. Agreed that religious people come up with wild ideas and often attempt to force them on others. |
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tkmorris
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Thu May-22-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Ah. THERE'S the problem. |
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gatorboy
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Thu May-22-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. So why the obsession with religion on the DU board? |
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Thu May-22-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Deleted message |
LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Stand up with logic, then |
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Buzz Clik
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Thu May-22-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
66. Lucy, I can see your desire to fight having religion pound down your throat. |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. I think you are mistaking unashamed, open, uncowed criticism for "hostility" |
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Buzz Clik
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Fri May-23-08 07:41 AM Response to Reply #75 |
98. Religion is unassailable? Since when? |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:18 AM Response to Reply #98 |
113. Did you grow up in East Texas? |
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John Gauger
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Fri May-23-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #98 |
138. Oh, okay. |
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Dorian Gray
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Fri May-23-08 07:59 AM Response to Reply #28 |
109. I don't personally know |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:23 AM Response to Reply #109 |
114. How can they not, when their leader said that anyone who doesn't believe in him will burn in a lake |
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alarimer
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Thu May-22-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. They do not. Prove your assertions. |
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tkmorris
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Thu May-22-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Nonsense |
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Feron
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Thu May-22-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
52. Well personally.. |
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apocalypsehow
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Thu May-22-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
61. The four angry, hysterical replies my post has garnered so far make my case for me. |
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fed_up_mother
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Thu May-22-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
62. Thank you for stating that. |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. Boo hoo, I feel unwelcome in AMERICA. |
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spoony
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Fri May-23-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #76 |
91. No it is not the "one thing" |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:26 AM Response to Reply #91 |
115. Victimhood? |
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fed_up_mother
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Fri May-23-08 07:46 AM Response to Reply #76 |
103. Well, this is a place where ALL progressives should feel welcome, imo. |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:37 AM Response to Reply #103 |
119. I don't "hate" anyone |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Thu May-22-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Pol Pot was areligious... |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. REALLY? He was? I had NO IDEA. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Thu May-22-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Its not tired, its true.. |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. From the link I referenced, which you obviously did not look at: |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Thu May-22-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. No the actions of atheist toltarians |
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tkmorris
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Thu May-22-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. No it doesn't |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Thu May-22-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. So by that logic |
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tkmorris
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Thu May-22-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. And? So? |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Thu May-22-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. My point is |
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tkmorris
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Thu May-22-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. You are exactly right. But what you fail to see is... |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Thu May-22-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Youll have to pardon me for pointing out |
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alarimer
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Thu May-22-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Same tired, long-debunked argument |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Thu May-22-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. whats debunked.. |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. There is no logical pathway from atheism to totalitarianism |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Thu May-22-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. Im not asking you to believe what I am saying |
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Fumesucker
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Thu May-22-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. You are right, atheists are capable of great evil.. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Thu May-22-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. Hmm how could I meet up with other atheist? |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Why should we be ghetto-ized? |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Thu May-22-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. Meetups are 'ghetto-ized'? |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #58 |
74. Yes, but they're not committing these terrible acts BECAUSE of atheism |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Thu May-22-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #74 |
84. with the exception of folks like the unibomber |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:29 AM Response to Reply #84 |
116. The unabomber said he was bombing people because he didn't believe in a god? |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Fri May-23-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #116 |
130. Wow it must be cool to be so selectively obtuse... |
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tkmorris
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Thu May-22-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. Organized religion does make people more easily shepherded |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Thu May-22-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. More easily than what? |
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Fumesucker
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Thu May-22-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. The point being.. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Thu May-22-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #70 |
86. As I said up thread |
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Fumesucker
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Fri May-23-08 07:49 AM Response to Reply #86 |
106. Thanks for proving my point.. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Fri May-23-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #106 |
129. So you say that if you move to a town that you would have no way to meet atheist |
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Dorian Gray
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Fri May-23-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #38 |
110. I will agree |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:35 AM Response to Reply #110 |
118. I respectfully disagree |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Also |
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John Gauger
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Fri May-23-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
139. That's laughable. |
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Buzz Clik
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Thu May-22-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
65. An obstacle to social and scientific progress? |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #65 |
78. Okay, that's two |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Thu May-22-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. Newton? Pascal? |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #85 |
120. Haha! Pot, kettle! |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Fri May-23-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #120 |
131. My intorduction of Stalin was not a quantative argument. |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #131 |
132. I already conceded religion is not a common factor!!! |
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Buzz Clik
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Fri May-23-08 07:38 AM Response to Reply #78 |
97. My, my. Such animosity. Here's a name of a scientist who believes in God: Francis Collins. |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:42 AM Response to Reply #97 |
121. No (haha!), it does not "put my stereotypes in the toilet". |
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Marr
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Thu May-22-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
51. That sounds very much like, "I just don't like flambuoyant gays". |
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Buzz Clik
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Thu May-22-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #51 |
67. We seem to be arguing the same thing from opposite sides of the fence. |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #67 |
79. Please provide a link showing Richard being less than polite and perhaps overly accomodating |
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spoony
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Fri May-23-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #79 |
93. Lying about a critic is slightly impolite in many circles |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:49 AM Response to Reply #93 |
122. HA! |
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Buzz Clik
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Fri May-23-08 07:43 AM Response to Reply #79 |
99. I never said he wasn't polite. |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #99 |
123. What are you saying then? |
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LeftyMom
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Fri May-23-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
95. Dawkins makes very clear arguments for the societal dangers posed by religion. |
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Buzz Clik
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Fri May-23-08 07:45 AM Response to Reply #95 |
100. And, indeed, I disagree with him. |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #100 |
124. Any good done in the name of a god doesn't make that god real. |
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John Gauger
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Fri May-23-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
137. That really is astoundingly wrong. |
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gimberly
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Thu May-22-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
44. At least 25% of statistics are totally bullshit make believe |
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Taverner
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Sat May-24-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
145. Troll much? |
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Taverner
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Sat May-24-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
144. BS - him sharing his beliefs is not evangelism |
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alarimer
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Thu May-22-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. I am completely with Richard Dawkins in this |
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Buzz Clik
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Thu May-22-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
69. And those who are religious are mentally ill? |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #69 |
80. Believing in something imaginary is the definition of mentally ill |
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Buzz Clik
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Fri May-23-08 07:47 AM Response to Reply #80 |
104. Now you're simply making things up. |
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Fox Mulder
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Thu May-22-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #69 |
82. Anyone who believes in some sort of invisible being... |
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spoony
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Fri May-23-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #82 |
90. So will you vote for our insane nominee? |
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Fox Mulder
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Fri May-23-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Of course I will. |
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spoony
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Fri May-23-08 01:28 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Why? He's insane. How do you trust an insane person? |
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Fox Mulder
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Fri May-23-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. I'm more concerned about electing a Democrat for President... |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #94 |
125. I doubt he really believes it |
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Thu May-22-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #69 |
87. I see you conveniently failed to see the word "fundamentalist" in alarimer's post. -nt |
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Buzz Clik
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Fri May-23-08 07:48 AM Response to Reply #87 |
105. I read quite well, thank you, and I saw the word. |
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Marr
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Thu May-22-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. People use that phrase as a pejorative. I don't get it. |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. It's taboo because it can't stand up to criticism. |
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Buzz Clik
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Thu May-22-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
71. What? That isn't the argument at all. |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. I'm not even sure what your argument is. |
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Buzz Clik
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Fri May-23-08 07:49 AM Response to Reply #73 |
107. Now criticizing my grammar rather than argue my point. |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #107 |
126. Ah, the last resort of the debate loser - mean-spirited ad hominem attack |
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Thu May-22-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
68. LOLOL! n/t |
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wryter2000
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Thu May-22-08 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. Oh, look at those flying porcines! |
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mrreowwr_kittty
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Thu May-22-08 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. That would be AWESOME. Shit, I'd buy TIVO just for that. nt |
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Thu May-22-08 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
4. I like Richard Dawkins, but I don't want to see him on Oprah. |
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no_hypocrisy
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Thu May-22-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. Rather see him and Bill Moyers sit down and jawbone. |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Indeed. |
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nichomachus
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Thu May-22-08 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
8. Wonder if we'd see Oprah jump on the couch. |
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Locrian
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Thu May-22-08 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
13. much better to just watch this.... |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I don't think Oprah's audience have been watching that |
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NewJeffCT
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Thu May-22-08 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
24. When I first saw the thread title |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
29. I didn't post this to start a flame war with theists. |
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Thu May-22-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
57. Typical toyalitarian atheist attitude: wants the theists to STFU |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Not all the atheists or Dawkins-interested folks read the Atheist subforum |
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SidDithers
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Thu May-22-08 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
33. It would be fun, just to see the exploding heads... |
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Mojambo
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Thu May-22-08 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
41. OMG. I would LOVE to see that |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. "Consumer Christians" |
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Orrex
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Fri May-23-08 07:46 AM Response to Reply #49 |
102. Haley Joel Osteen was great in Secondhand Lions |
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LucyParsons
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Thu May-22-08 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
81. I would also like to point out that, purposefully, the OP is non-offensive and concise |
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tkmorris
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Thu May-22-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #81 |
89. Which is exactly what they accuse US of doing |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #89 |
127. Yep. |
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Dorian Gray
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Fri May-23-08 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
101. Why would I want to see him on Oprah? |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #101 |
128. I don't watch Oprah, either. |
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Dorian Gray
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Fri May-23-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #128 |
133. That they do.... |
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Joyce78
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Fri May-23-08 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
108. Who watches Oprah Winfrey? People who have too much time to waste? |
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LucyParsons
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Fri May-23-08 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
111. Typical. |
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Dorian Gray
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Fri May-23-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #111 |
134. The discussion above is why it's moved.... |
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Fri May-23-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #111 |
135. Here is the relevant rule |
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Fri May-23-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #111 |
136. As it has been explained to you |
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Fri May-23-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #136 |
140. I'm told you catch more flies with honey... |
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Fri May-23-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. Why would I want flies? |
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Fri May-23-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #141 |
142. I see. eom |
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Fri May-23-08 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
143. What would be the point? |
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