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InvisibleBallots
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Mon Dec-20-04 06:53 PM Original message |
Do you "believe" in Secular and Humanist History? |
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DireStrike
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Mon Dec-20-04 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. Amen. Figuratively speaking. |
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InvisibleBallots
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Mon Dec-20-04 07:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. do we have any manuscripts before 1200 AD? |
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DireStrike
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Mon Dec-20-04 07:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I have no idea... |
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trotsky
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Mon Dec-20-04 07:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. That's the rub, DireStrike. |
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InvisibleBallots
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Mon Dec-20-04 08:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I think Carbon dating is accurate, obviously |
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trotsky
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Mon Dec-20-04 08:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I didn't make that claim, now did I? |
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InvisibleBallots
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Tue Dec-21-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. the dating for the DSS is a very interesting story |
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InvisibleBallots
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Mon Dec-20-04 07:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. as far as I know, the New Testament is older than Homer |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 10:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
43. even Isaac Newton suggested the chronology was wrong |
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Inland
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Mon Dec-20-04 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. *ahem* Mohammed was certainly a historical figure. |
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InvisibleBallots
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Mon Dec-20-04 07:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. so, no one can provide a manuscript then? |
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lenidog
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Mon Dec-20-04 08:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I hate to break it to you |
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InvisibleBallots
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Tue Dec-21-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. "history is not a science" - YET |
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Inland
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Tue Dec-21-04 09:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Why, yes, there are plenty of reasons to believe |
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InvisibleBallots
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Tue Dec-21-04 05:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. "they dug up Troy" |
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Inland
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Tue Dec-21-04 11:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. No, I don't know the people who dug up Troy. Not personally. |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 12:17 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I'm sorry, I thought you were being serious? |
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lenidog
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Mon Dec-20-04 08:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. LOL ! Here I was going to post |
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catbert836
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Mon Dec-20-04 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. Please, can you be a little tolerant? |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Mon Dec-20-04 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
13. Don't ask me, ask a real classicist |
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lenidog
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Mon Dec-20-04 09:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Try narrowing your search |
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InvisibleBallots
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Tue Dec-21-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. please read the link in my original post |
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Cheswick2.0
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Tue Dec-21-04 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
16. What you have posted here looks like theory to me |
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InvisibleBallots
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Tue Dec-21-04 05:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Yes, all science is "theory" |
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enki23
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Tue Dec-21-04 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
17. we don't believe the bits about the minotaur |
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InvisibleBallots
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Tue Dec-21-04 06:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. I think you are incorrect |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Tue Dec-21-04 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
18. IB, do yourself a favor and ask the people in the History forum |
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InvisibleBallots
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Tue Dec-21-04 06:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. thanks for the suggestion |
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trotsky
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Tue Dec-21-04 07:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. If this isn't the place, then why are you here? |
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InvisibleBallots
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Tue Dec-21-04 08:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. hey trotsky |
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trotsky
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Tue Dec-21-04 10:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I would strongly suggest that you try to find someone to translate... |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Tue Dec-21-04 11:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. So Fomenko is to history as Lysenko is to biology? |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 12:24 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. I'd love a link to your claims... |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 12:27 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. also, please validate this claim? |
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trotsky
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Wed Dec-22-04 08:57 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Yep. |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 09:52 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. interesting article, unfortunately |
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trotsky
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Wed Dec-22-04 08:55 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. The claims were made by a critic, who had read his other works. |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 11:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
47. what of Morozov then? |
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muriel_volestrangler
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Wed Dec-22-04 09:45 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Fomenko does not use 'primary historical evidence' |
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trotsky
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Wed Dec-22-04 09:59 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Hey muriel |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 10:05 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. show me ANY dismissals, please? |
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trotsky
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Wed Dec-22-04 10:27 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Your cult-like devotion to Fomenko notwithstanding... |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 10:36 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. nothing but personal attacks |
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trotsky
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Wed Dec-22-04 10:44 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Just an observation. |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 11:09 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. no, I think your criticism is just like defenders of pseudo science |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 09:59 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I'm sorry, but you are incorrect |
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muriel_volestrangler
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Wed Dec-22-04 10:27 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. No, it's not all we have |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 10:59 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. that can be a valid criticism |
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muriel_volestrangler
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Wed Dec-22-04 11:27 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. You don't need to know about the statistics of functions |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. yes, actually you do need to understand statistics of functions |
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muriel_volestrangler
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Wed Dec-22-04 11:55 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. So explain what this function tells us about history |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 12:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. why not read it yourself? |
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muriel_volestrangler
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Wed Dec-22-04 02:09 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. There's a lot on that website |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. look, it is science, not pseudo science |
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muriel_volestrangler
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Wed Dec-22-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. It's pesudo-science *because* he cherry-picks the evidence |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. you don't understand the math, sorry |
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trotsky
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Wed Dec-22-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. It would appear that someone should give you for xmas... |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. hey trots |
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trotsky
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Wed Dec-22-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Heh, based on your post history |
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Astarho
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Wed Dec-22-04 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
60. not really a belief |
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InvisibleBallots
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Wed Dec-22-04 09:28 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. thanks for the response |
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InvisibleBallots
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Thu Dec-23-04 04:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Astarho, can you give me some references please? |
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Az
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Thu Dec-23-04 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
63. We are not required to "believe" secular or humanist history |
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InvisibleBallots
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Thu Dec-23-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. here's a thought |
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Az
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Thu Dec-23-04 09:27 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Different topic entirely |
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InvisibleBallots
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Thu Dec-23-04 10:05 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. why did you stoop to that little insult, Az? |
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Az
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Thu Dec-23-04 10:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Individuals and theories |
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InvisibleBallots
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Thu Dec-23-04 10:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I'm probably being a bit over-sensitive, sorry |
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Az
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Thu Dec-23-04 11:11 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. New ideas are always met with |
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