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Mon May-02-11 12:49 PM Original message |
WHY NOT SOME THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION |
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MineralMan
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Mon May-02-11 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. Why not start a discussion, then? That would seem to me to |
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Davis_X_Machina
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Mon May-02-11 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. There are a ton of people here.. |
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xchrom
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Mon May-02-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. +1 |
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Ninjaneer
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Mon May-02-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Intelligence and critical thinking will always be edgy and cool. n/t. |
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struggle4progress
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Mon May-02-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. I wouldn't sneer at Marxian readings of the Bible. Some of Vitezslav Gardasky's old |
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Davis_X_Machina
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Mon May-02-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. That's why I said "vernacular"... |
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Jackpine Radical
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Mon May-02-11 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. Hey, welcome. Don't give up yet. There are people of virtually every stripe here. |
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Thu May-05-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
112. exploring |
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Ninjaneer
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Mon May-02-11 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
5. Its hard to have a "thoughtful" and genuine discussion |
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Thats my opinion
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Thu May-05-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
113. thoughtful" |
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Ninjaneer
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Thu May-05-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #113 |
121. All of religion is "ignorant". |
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humblebum
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Thu May-05-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #113 |
122. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Einstein nt |
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Ninjaneer
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Thu May-05-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. You really want to play that game? |
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humblebum
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Thu May-05-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. Sure, it's fun. |
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darkstar3
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Thu May-05-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Oh how the quotes paint a picture. |
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humblebum
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Thu May-05-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #127 |
132. It's pretty obvious that he was agnostic, not an atheist (assuming of course |
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darkstar3
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Fri May-06-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #132 |
135. I don't. |
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Ninjaneer
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Thu May-05-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. What Einstein believed has no bearing on this debate. |
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humblebum
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Thu May-05-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #128 |
133. Well since the title is "WHY NOT SOME THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION" |
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Ninjaneer
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Fri May-06-11 02:36 AM Response to Reply #133 |
134. To what am I referring? you have got to be kidding me. eom |
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cleanhippie
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Thu May-05-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Yeah? And? |
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Ninjaneer
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Thu May-05-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. LOL I just noticed something, |
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cleanhippie
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Thu May-05-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #125 |
129. Yeah, its pretty par for the course. |
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MatthewStLouis
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Mon May-02-11 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. 1. Don't be so judgemental about all of us. 2. Grow a thicker skin. 3. Please share... |
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Thu May-05-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
114. of course |
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trotsky
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Mon May-02-11 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
8. The problem I've seen is that most people decrying the lack of "THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION"... |
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darkstar3
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Mon May-02-11 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
9. When you post something actually meant for discussion in this forum, rather |
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Sadena Meti
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Mon May-02-11 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. What's wrong with taking shots at religion? Why should religion be spared? |
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Thats my opinion
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Thu May-05-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
115. taking shots |
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edhopper
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Mon May-02-11 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
11. You are wrong |
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humblebum
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Mon May-02-11 11:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. There is certainly nothing to be feared from atheists around here. |
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edhopper
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Tue May-03-11 08:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Oh yeah |
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darkstar3
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Tue May-03-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Funny thing about those other ways: |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Without those "other ways" you would not even have the Scientific Method. |
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darkstar3
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Tue May-03-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. ^Case in point. |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Then I am assuming that you agree with me since you did not elaborate. nt |
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skepticscott
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Tue May-03-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
67. And does that Scientific Method |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. To be very specific - NO. It operates utilizing Logical Empiricism. |
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skepticscott
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Tue May-03-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Well, if it doesn't operate |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. A man of your stature should already know the difference between |
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skepticscott
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Tue May-03-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. I wouldn't expect a man of your intellectual stature |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. It's a good thing that you finally admit that there is a deductive component |
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skepticscott
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Tue May-03-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. I'm not surprised that the notion |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 10:12 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. I grasp that you are learning something, finally. nt |
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laconicsax
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Tue May-03-11 11:08 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. LOL! |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. That's why there is nothing to be feared. |
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darkstar3
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Tue May-03-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Ah, the old "prove me wrong" canard. |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. That "old 'prove me wrong' canard" is a common atheist rant that |
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Tue May-03-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #32 |
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darkstar3
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Tue May-03-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
88. A common atheist rant? |
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Goblinmonger
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Tue May-03-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Not my burden, but you know that. |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. It is most definitely your burden when you are labeling someone as a liar |
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Goblinmonger
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Tue May-03-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Way to twist that into a positive position. |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. The point of contention isn't that there is or isn't a god, but that |
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Ninjaneer
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Tue May-03-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Actually, the fact that |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. But we do not claim objective proof. It really is a matter of faith. |
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darkstar3
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Tue May-03-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. You should have stopped before your last sentence. |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. If it's this phrase that bothers you: |
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darkstar3
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Tue May-03-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Empiricism =/= atheism |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Where did I say empiricism = atheism? |
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darkstar3
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Tue May-03-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. #37, which is just a repetition of the same straw man you've been called on time and again. |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Nowhere in there did I say that empiricism = atheism. Now who is lying? |
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cleanhippie
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Tue May-03-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #64 |
76. YOU ARE! You gave the definition of empiricism and stated that atheists all follow it. |
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Tue May-03-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. C'mon, cleanhippie. You know that where we see contradiction, it sees confirmation. |
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cleanhippie
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Wed May-04-11 12:20 AM Response to Reply #77 |
91. Of course. What WAS I thinking? |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Be so kind as to show me where I said ALL atheists used it. |
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darkstar3
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Tue May-03-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. You're broad brushing with a shitload of generalisms that you can't back, |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. "Most" does not equal "all", did you know that? |
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cleanhippie
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Wed May-04-11 12:23 AM Response to Reply #83 |
92. Ohhhh, the "I know you are, but what am I?" Defense. Well played, sir, well played. |
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cleanhippie
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Tue May-03-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Ok, great, its a matter of faith. There ends the debate, so stop making claims. |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. And what claims would you be referring to?nt |
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cleanhippie
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Tue May-03-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Every one you have made. You take it on faith, not proof. Fine. We understand your position. |
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Ninjaneer
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Tue May-03-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Wrong definition of atheism aside, |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I wasn't defining atheism, I was defining logical empiricism and |
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darkstar3
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Tue May-03-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Now you're back to #24. |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. No, you are back at #24. You have never been able to admit that |
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darkstar3
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Tue May-03-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Because you can't answer the questions mentioned in #24, and offer only ad hom in resopnse. |
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trotsky
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Tue May-03-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Yes we've established that, h-bum. |
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Ninjaneer
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Tue May-03-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. Let me get this straight |
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laconicsax
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Tue May-03-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. +1 |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. First of all, I never anywhere said that other epistemologies PROVE |
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Ninjaneer
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Tue May-03-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Okay, other epistemologies allow you to make a "strong argument" then. |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. "why should anyone care?" Well, |
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Ninjaneer
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Tue May-03-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. So, to sum up: |
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cleanhippie
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Tue May-03-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. DAY-um, ninja! Not only did you nail it perfectly, you summed up the entire |
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Ninjaneer
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Tue May-03-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #75 |
89. Thanks cleanhippie, |
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Tue May-03-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. That is quite possibly one of your MOST dishonest posts yet. |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. So you are saying that if you accuse someone of lying or fraud |
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cleanhippie
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Tue May-03-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. No, I am saying that that was one of your most dishonest posts ever. |
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Tue May-03-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Here is the proof |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. There again your so called "proof" is based on your narrow |
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Ninjaneer
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Tue May-03-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. Your "reasoning" may not have the limitations the atheists' does, |
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edhopper
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Tue May-03-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. And you can't even define your proof |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Where did I ever claim to prove anything, at least objectively?nt |
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Ninjaneer
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Tue May-03-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Translation: |
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edhopper
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Tue May-03-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. You claim |
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humblebum
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Tue May-03-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #74 |
86. " demand we prove he doesn't." - where did I demand that? |
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Ninjaneer
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Tue May-03-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. You did so in post #25: |
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laconicsax
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Wed May-04-11 01:08 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Don't do it. You'll die of alcohol poisoning. n/t |
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humblebum
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Wed May-04-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. I demanded nothing from post #25. I merely pointed out that |
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Wed May-04-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. The all is implied when you refer explicitly to the group, and "usually" is a weasel word. |
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Wed May-04-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #96 |
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Wed May-04-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Repetition and rule-breaking will get you nowhere. Your generalization is still worthless. |
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Wed May-04-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Get me nowhere? Why not? They work for you all the time. nt |
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cleanhippie
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Wed May-04-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Nice, more of the "I know you are, but what am I?" defense. |
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Wed May-04-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Gee, maybe if i would flood the page with a bunch of those little |
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laconicsax
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Wed May-04-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Paranoia much? |
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humblebum
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Wed May-04-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Cute little fellers, aren't they? nt |
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cleanhippie
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Wed May-04-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. I doubt it. After this thread, your image is permanently tarnished. |
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laconicsax
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Wed May-04-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. You cannot tarnish a rusty blade. n/t |
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cleanhippie
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Wed May-04-11 07:46 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. Come on! Blade is too kind of a descriptor. |
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humblebum
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Wed May-04-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. The truth is sometimes hard to handle. I generalized nothing, but was |
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Ninjaneer
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Wed May-04-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #101 |
109. Just out of curiosity, |
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darkstar3
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Wed May-04-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Getting off on disruption. |
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Starboard Tack
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Fri May-06-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
136. "If God existed there would be some evidence of his existence" |
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Fri May-06-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
137. Prove a negative...? nt |
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Thu May-05-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
117. Dawkins, |
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Thu May-05-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
116. discussion stopper |
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skepticscott
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Fri May-06-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #116 |
138. When unaccompanied by reasons why, perhaps. |
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Mon May-02-11 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
12. All right, lets take them one at a time. |
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skepticscott
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Mon May-02-11 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
13. You start |
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Thu May-05-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
118. Solely? |
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skepticscott
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Thu May-05-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #118 |
130. One could name thousands of things |
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dimbear
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Mon May-02-11 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. Why would we attack the worst of them? |
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Mon May-02-11 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
17. First, you have to define those terms |
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Thu May-05-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
119. yes, you are really wrong |
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skepticscott
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Sun May-08-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #119 |
139. So you're backpedaling |
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PassingFair
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Mon May-02-11 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
18. There are groups here if you want an echo chamber. |
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Angry Dragon
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Mon May-02-11 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
19. Some good responses here to your post |
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skepticscott
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Mon May-02-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. You're assuming that the OP |
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Angry Dragon
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Mon May-02-11 11:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Just offering them the chance to participate |
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Thats my opinion
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Thu May-05-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
120. take a look |
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skepticscott
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Thu May-05-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #120 |
131. I have |
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cleanhippie
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Tue May-03-11 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
38. WHY MAKE A SINGLE POST IN ALL CAPS THEN NOT RETURN TO REPLY? |
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trotsky
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Tue May-03-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Drop a turd and run. |
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Ninjaneer
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Tue May-03-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
62. he's probly busy doin that bhook lurnin' |
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Iggo
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Wed May-04-11 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
94. WHY DON'T YOU YELL SOME MORE!!!! |
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edhopper
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Wed May-04-11 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
100. almost 100 replies |
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laconicsax
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Wed May-04-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Maybe it isn't loud enough. |
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Tue May-17-11 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
140. Still waiting on your promises |
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Tue May-17-11 11:10 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. Pretty sure he's gone for good. eom |
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Wed May-18-11 04:33 AM Response to Reply #141 |
142. He keeps popping up |
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