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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-03-11 11:37 PM Original message |
9/11 was what turned me off from organized religion forever, |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-03-11 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. Interesting |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-03-11 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. So because one extreme, fanatical version of one religion had members |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. They were fanatical in their application, not in their theology. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
35. To be honest, ALL major religions have committed atrocities on the same scale. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-03-11 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
3. Funny... though I am agnostic... |
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AlecBGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 08:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Thank you for sharing, that was beautiful |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 05:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
31. His death was truly sad |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-03-11 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. I understand how you feel |
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Ninjaneer (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
5. For me, it was when my family and some friends tried to use logic to prove to me god existed. |
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chollybocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
6. 9/11 was but one in a long line of tragic events caused by religion. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 05:23 AM Response to Original message |
7. Just wait until you discover the love of money. Talk about a desire invoking hate and violence. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. "it can be said, religiously" |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Yes, it can be said, and, understood. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. And how does what you say here in any way mean "religiously" |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Money does not serve as an object of worship? Really? /nt |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Yeah. Really. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 09:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Worship of money is a phrase and greed is a term describing a worship of money. /nt |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I'm sorry, do greedy people personify money? |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 05:54 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. The resulting actions are very similar. (OF COURSE -- SO) |
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Ninjaneer (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. The central pillars of any religion is |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Any and all? From where does that rule arise? |
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Ninjaneer (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
61. I used the dictionary definition of religion, so thats where that "rule" arose. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. Only in a twisted mind. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 05:03 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Oh, my. Is that simply ad hominem. Shameless. Tsk tsk tsk. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Oh now that's precious. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Talking down and laughing at people you consider beneath you. Now, that's precious. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Right, |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Had I known your ability to use the word extreme, I might had capitulated long ago. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. You tell me. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Did. /nt |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Bwaaack. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Back! |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. It's funny when you start to think the reflection is real. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Feeling reflective? Feeling funny? /nt |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
67. Many children and youth are very definitely taught that money and |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 06:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Some people simply cannot comprehend of a person... |
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Ninjaneer (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:50 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. You really believing what you just said is damning to my argument. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. You missed a step in your proof. |
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Ninjaneer (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. You're just saying that. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Deleted message |
Ninjaneer (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:41 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Definition of faith: |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Funny, your source says: "complete trust or confidence in someone or something" |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Show me just one example of someone putting their "complete trust in" money. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. How about Ayn Rand's murderous hero. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. So you give me fiction and assumption? |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Um, Ayn Rand was real and so was William Edward Hickman. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. And here I thought you meant one of her characters. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Replete, but not quite complete for ya? /nt |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. There's another word you misused. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. He is replete with trust in money. How is that a misuse of replete? |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 07:12 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. You haven't shown that either. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 07:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Perhaps you'll just claim it's not enough no matter what or how much you're given. /nt |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Doubtful, but we won't know until you give at least something. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:47 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. How does the example not show complete trust in money? |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Now you're asking me to prove you wrong, in so many words. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Well, that's what you've been doing all along, and here you're only repeating yourself avoiding... |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 10:37 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. So, no reason why, then. Fine. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 05:06 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. None, that you will be able to see I guess. /nt |
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Ninjaneer (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. You will never be able to prove "complete trust" in an object like money. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Not to someone who cannot even work with a dictionary. /nt |
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Ninjaneer (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 12:00 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. 'Kay = ) eom. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
42. As a metaphor, perhaps. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. I'd say it denotes as much as it connotes, but, so? /nt |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
24. That's quite the illogical leap. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:19 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. MLK! |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Uh, Jim? I hate to break it to you, but ALL religions have committed similar atrocities. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #24 |
37. One atrocity removes the veneer of piety, |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
25. 2nd grade, catholic school, people lying who I thought shouldn't've been lying. |
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