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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 02:11 PM Original message |
A repeatedly unanswered question on religion for a Sunday afternoon. |
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greymattermom
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Sun May-08-11 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. it doesn't |
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edhopper
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Sun May-08-11 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. That doesn't ever seem to get answered. |
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rug
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Sun May-08-11 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. The question is backwards. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. False dichotomy. |
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cleanhippie
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Sun May-08-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. First time I have EVER heard that respect is not earned. WOW! |
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rug
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Sun May-08-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Respect is a default position. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 06:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Respect for people, not ideas. |
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rug
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Sun May-08-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Actually, when I meet one I do. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. So you don't respect their ideas, because when they express them, they have earned your disrespect. |
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rug
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Sun May-08-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Actually, I disagree with the ideas. Disrespect is secondary and ultimately irrelevant. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. The problem is, every time I disagree, someone religious calls it disrespect, |
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rug
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Sun May-08-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. You and I both know it's easy to both disagree and disrespect simultaneously. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. You still haven't answered the question. |
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rug
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Sun May-08-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Go search GDP from January to June 2008. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. "I don't think that religious discussion should cease because someone blows the respect whistle." |
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rug
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Sun May-08-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. A lot more was said than simply agreeing with you. |
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cleanhippie
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Sun May-08-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. So by your answer, we are no different at all. Not even a little bit. |
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rug
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Sun May-08-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Whether you like it or not, we, humans, are more alike than different. |
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cleanhippie
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Sun May-08-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. You are dishonest, rug. |
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rug
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Sun May-08-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. From your first sentence, I am once again awed by my powers of gentle persuaion. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 07:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Contradictory. |
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rug
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Sun May-08-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. No. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Do you think the two are remotely equivalent? |
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rug
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Sun May-08-11 07:46 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Let me see, "Your post reeks of privilege." |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Privilege is a systemically created position that often prevents perspective. |
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rug
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Sun May-08-11 08:04 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Let's review. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Not remotely close, as any cursory reading of that thread will show. |
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rug
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Sun May-08-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Reek is such a gentle word. |
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Ninjaneer
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Sun May-08-11 11:15 PM Response to Reply #46 |
71. Seriously? |
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cleanhippie
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Sun May-08-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #46 |
72. You are awed by your ability to make me see your dishonesty? |
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Ninjaneer
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Sun May-08-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. I had initially said something about that in my post. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 11:45 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Bingo. |
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rug
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Mon May-09-11 07:46 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Yes, you don't get it. |
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cleanhippie
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Sun May-08-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Not for ideas, its not. |
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rug
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Sun May-08-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Before you address the idea, you speak to the person. |
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cleanhippie
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Sun May-08-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Are you moving the goalposts, rug? |
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Igel
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Sun May-08-11 07:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. Probably not. |
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Davis_X_Machina
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Sun May-08-11 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm not sure.... |
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edhopper
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Sun May-08-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. We are not talking about laws |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. +1 |
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Davis_X_Machina
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Sun May-08-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. The legal protection is there... |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. That's not true. |
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Davis_X_Machina
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Sun May-08-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. But it recognizes that differences in this area.... |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Does it? |
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edhopper
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Sun May-08-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. There is no legal protection |
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EC
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Sun May-08-11 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. Because when one is asked to have faith in the |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. True, but that hardly answers the question of why they demand uncommon "respect." |
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digonswine
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Sun May-08-11 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
15. Perhaps it is just a way to get ahead of or prevent criticism. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. That's an obvious side effect, and a possible motive, but certainly not legitimization. |
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digonswine
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Sun May-08-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Correct-nothing makes it legitimate. |
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LuvNewcastle
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Sun May-08-11 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
16. I'm not so sure religion does get more respect. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. It's not a question of war, it's a question of discourse. |
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Boojatta
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Sun May-08-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I hope that you create a new thread for your new question. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. It's the same question, booj, and this is a thread created to ask it. |
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Boojatta
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Sun May-08-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
64. I'm interested in questions of discourse. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Your post rambles over a considerable amount of subject matter. |
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Boojatta
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Sun May-08-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. I can feed it to you in bite-sized pieces. Let's start with your question. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. The question was clear, as well as the motive. |
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westerebus
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Sun May-08-11 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
18. Unconditionally, no. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. What of them? |
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westerebus
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Sun May-08-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Exactly. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. To read more on my thoughts on this aspect of the topic, |
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westerebus
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Sun May-08-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Having re read it, I remember it. |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. No one has satisfactorily answered the question from the believers' POV. |
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struggle4progress
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Sun May-08-11 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
31. Just checked a few of the sports forums here: there don't seem to be contingents hanging out |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Now that's funny. |
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Ninjaneer
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Sun May-08-11 06:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Because no such case can be made against Baseball. eom |
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dimbear
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Sun May-08-11 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
56. OK. I'll name a famous person, and you ask yourself honestly how much respect wells up. Ready? |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Yet another example of the special pleading I was talking about in the OP. |
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dimbear
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Sun May-08-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. As closely as I can judge, that would be "not too much"? |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. Precisely. |
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Meshuga
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Sun May-08-11 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
62. I'm not saying that religious affiliation deserve respect |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 09:28 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. It's not a surprise to me at all. |
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Boojatta
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Sun May-08-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. If you had six fingers on each hand ... |
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darkstar3
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Sun May-08-11 10:16 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. That's one of the stranger false parallels I've read. |
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Meshuga
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Mon May-09-11 05:02 AM Response to Reply #63 |
75. I have seen people who is offended when... |
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Manifestor_of_Light
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Tue May-10-11 02:25 AM Response to Original message |
77. Christopher Hitchens asks this question. |
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