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Deja Q
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Sun Nov-06-05 01:35 AM Original message |
Why did Jesus die again? And was His death worth it in the end? |
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JohnnyRingo
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Sun Nov-06-05 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. Wasn't it in support of the death penalty? |
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melnjones
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Sun Nov-06-05 01:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. lol nt |
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Deja Q
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Sun Nov-06-05 03:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. ! |
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BlueManDude
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Sun Nov-06-05 11:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
33. no - capital gains tax cut. |
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melnjones
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Sun Nov-06-05 01:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. As a ransom paid for sin... |
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expatriot
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Sun Nov-06-05 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
4. According to the story.... |
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hickman1937
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Sun Nov-06-05 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
5. He died begging us to be better. |
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bluedawg12
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Sun Nov-06-05 02:06 AM Response to Original message |
6. Do we actuall know how he died? Is it in Josephus? |
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Alamom
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Sun Nov-06-05 03:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Yes |
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verdalaven
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Sun Nov-06-05 09:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. It has been a long time.... |
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Zhade
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Sun Nov-06-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
48. Biblical scholars have found the "Josephus" mention of Jesus to be a fake. |
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Perky
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Sun Nov-06-05 09:12 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. But what if you can't earn your own redemption? |
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bluedawg12
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Sun Nov-06-05 09:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Perky- I guess that is the point, isn't it? |
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mondo joe
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Sun Nov-06-05 12:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
39. Well that's pitiful. Reminds me of those scam migrant workers places |
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Perky
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Sun Nov-06-05 01:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. A very interesting analogy |
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mondo joe
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Sun Nov-06-05 04:52 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Another difference - the exploiters of the workers are not |
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bluedawg12
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Sun Nov-06-05 08:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
57. Free will is the thing. |
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Zebedeo
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Sun Dec-18-05 09:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
89. Yup. |
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Zebedeo
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Mon Dec-19-05 12:25 AM Response to Reply #57 |
91. Also, see John 10:9-11 |
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Cleita
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Sun Nov-06-05 06:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
55. Didn't Tacitus have something to say about Jesus too? |
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Sun Nov-06-05 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
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Speed8098
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Sun Nov-06-05 07:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. What is wrong with you?! |
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Perky
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Sun Nov-06-05 09:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Preach it Bro' (n/t) |
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Zhade
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Sun Nov-06-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
50. For the record, that's not intolerance. |
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blonndee
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Sun Nov-06-05 11:14 AM Response to Reply #7 |
31. WTF? I'm not a Christian anymore, but your post is WAY out of |
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mntleo2
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Sun Nov-06-05 12:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Gandhi Also |
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LittleClarkie
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Sun Nov-06-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. And Buddah is just some fat fuck... Hey, did you forget a sarcasm smilie? |
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BrotherBuzz
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Sun Nov-06-05 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
8. Memoirs of Pontius Pilate tells all... |
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Deja Q
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Sun Nov-06-05 03:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Isn't that the guy who sells those plastic nick-knacks as 'exercise' gear? |
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BrotherBuzz
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Sun Nov-06-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
41. I don't know, but the forward was written by Edmund G. Brown, |
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az chela
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Sun Nov-06-05 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
9. Read the Bible fraud |
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Dorian Gray
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Sun Nov-06-05 11:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
34. Where is Londen? N/T |
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Fescue4u
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Sun Nov-06-05 03:37 AM Response to Original message |
13. Ah yes. The Tolerance of this board shows no end |
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Sun Nov-06-05 06:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Isn't it though? |
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knitter4democracy
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Sun Nov-06-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #15 |
29. I got attacked at another board for mentioning DU |
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Dorian Gray
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Sun Nov-06-05 11:57 AM Response to Reply #15 |
35. Sadly, |
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Sun Nov-06-05 09:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
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Sun Nov-06-05 10:55 PM Response to Reply #64 |
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Behind the Aegis
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Mon Nov-07-05 02:34 AM Response to Reply #64 |
69. What does any of what you wrote have to do with what I wrote? |
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knitter4democracy
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Sun Nov-06-05 11:07 AM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Thank you. |
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mondo joe
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Sun Nov-06-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. Asking a question is intolerant? |
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Fescue4u
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Sun Nov-06-05 04:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
52. Who said anything about intolerance? |
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Qibing Zero
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Sun Nov-06-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. Might want to look at the title of your first post... nt |
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Sun Nov-06-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #62 |
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Fescue4u
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Sun Nov-06-05 11:36 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. Tolerance is the opposite of intolerance |
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Qibing Zero
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Mon Nov-07-05 03:36 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. That was some awfully sarcastic sounding non-sarcasm then! nt |
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Fescue4u
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Mon Nov-07-05 12:38 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. Thats what I thought of the original post |
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LittleClarkie
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Sun Nov-06-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
47. My favorite: Why don't you people do something about your extremists?! |
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Deja Q
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Mon Nov-07-05 08:10 AM Response to Reply #13 |
73. At what point does ridicule become the only course of action? |
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Fescue4u
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Mon Nov-07-05 12:43 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. when you've given up and thrown in the towel? |
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SkiGuy
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Sat Dec-03-05 11:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
84. Thank you |
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Sun Dec-11-05 07:14 PM Response to Reply #84 |
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Tactical Progressive
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Sun Nov-06-05 05:21 AM Response to Original message |
14. Jesus died so we could all be |
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Crunchy Frog
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Sun Nov-06-05 07:24 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Yes. He died in order to absolve people of personal responsibility. |
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USA_1
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Sun Nov-06-05 09:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Jesu |
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alphadog
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Mon Nov-07-05 04:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
81. Deleted by Poster.... |
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Perky
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Sun Nov-06-05 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
16. This gets so very tiresome |
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DeepModem Mom
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Sun Nov-06-05 09:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. My question is always why the hell are these threads in GD? IMO... |
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Perky
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Sun Nov-06-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. At many level.ls I do not disagree |
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DeepModem Mom
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Sun Nov-06-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I hear you, Perky -- and I agree. nt |
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bluedawg12
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Sun Nov-06-05 08:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
58. Actually, you are right, religious threads are loaded |
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Perky
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Sun Nov-06-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
44. At many level.ls I do not disagree |
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knitter4democracy
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Sun Nov-06-05 11:12 AM Response to Reply #16 |
30. Yes. |
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Monkey see Monkey Do
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Sun Nov-06-05 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
25. "Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine" - Patti Smith |
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leeroysphitz
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Sun Nov-06-05 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
26. According to Julia Sweeney... |
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Zebedeo
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Sun Dec-18-05 10:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
90. It's not that humans were created "imperfect." |
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The Magistrate
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Mon Dec-19-05 01:12 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. As A Matter Of Curiousity, Sir |
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Zebedeo
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Mon Dec-19-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. You are asking me? |
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The Magistrate
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Mon Dec-19-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. A Very Human Quality, Sir |
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Zebedeo
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Mon Dec-19-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. A very human quality, you say. |
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The Magistrate
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Mon Dec-19-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. How Is That Particular To Diety, Sir? |
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Zebedeo
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Mon Dec-19-05 04:10 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. I'm not sure what you mean by a "needy trait" |
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The Magistrate
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Mon Dec-19-05 04:14 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. A Pleasure To Cross Words With You, Sir |
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Zebedeo
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Mon Dec-19-05 04:41 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Thank you |
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Roland99
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Sun Nov-06-05 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
27. He was a threat to the revenue stream of the Jewish high priests. |
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Deja Q
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Sun Nov-06-05 11:37 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Logical they would do that. Also despicable. But nobody's perfect. |
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Roland99
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Sun Nov-06-05 05:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
54. It was all about politics. Nothing much different from what we see now |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Sun Nov-06-05 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
36. Taking on the wealthy establishment is very risky. |
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tjdee
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Sun Nov-06-05 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
40. Well, it's not really about his death. |
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hedgehog
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Sun Nov-06-05 06:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. Couldn't have said it better myself |
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kliljedahl
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Sun Nov-06-05 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
49. He's not really dead, he's running for office |
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Walt Starr
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Sun Nov-06-05 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
51. The death of the god-man is universal in redemption myths |
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Zhade
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Sun Nov-06-05 10:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
67. As another DUer said, there have been "beta versions" of Christianity. |
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Inland
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Tue Nov-08-05 01:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
82. Sure. god's plan included using all the themes that resonate. |
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SoCalDem
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Sun Nov-06-05 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
59. Bird flu |
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DeepModem Mom
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Sun Nov-06-05 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
60. HypnoToad, may I ask, with respect, why you did not post this thread... |
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Deja Q
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Mon Nov-07-05 08:12 AM Response to Reply #60 |
74. Because I felt that the segregation of this post was unwarranted. |
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laureloak
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Sun Nov-06-05 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
61. Jesus died to save us from our sins. |
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PhilipShore
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Sun Nov-06-05 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
65. The cross restored mans life, liberty, and happiness unto God |
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JVS
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Mon Nov-07-05 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
70. Because he loves you HypnoToad |
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Deja Q
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Mon Nov-07-05 08:15 AM Response to Reply #70 |
75. I'm not worthy of the love. |
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Tesha
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Mon Nov-07-05 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
72. He died because he was discomfitting the Religious Right and the ruling... |
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Deja Q
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Mon Nov-07-05 08:16 AM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Rabble-rousing meaning the teachings of love, tolerance, and sharing. |
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Tesha
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Mon Nov-07-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Of course! |
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noonwitch
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Mon Nov-07-05 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
79. He died in order to be resurrected |
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Bloodblister Bob
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Tue Nov-08-05 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
83. Jesus died because they nailed him to a cross. nt |
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CarbonDate
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Sat Dec-10-05 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
85. You want a run-down on the mythology? |
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pretzel4gore
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
86. as you know, theology is a discipline |
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catbert836
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
87. Like Douglas adams says: |
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