If this doesn't just blow all....since the lunchroom monitor lost her cool and screamed shut-up the

[stopschoolpaddling]

principals nifty little solution is to pay a visit to the
lunchroom and inform all the little kids in there grades K=2
that this whack-out lunchroom monitor now has the authority to
send them to the big bad paddle wielding principals office.  
     When it comes to educational authority and stupidity, it
just doesn't get any better than this. That's right, let's try
some more fear and intimidation to keep those voices down. 
     I wonder if they are going to punish the student's that
were assaulted with a little corporal punishment to really
bring it home that they shouldn't be acting up in a class with
a volunteer instructor and this entire incident is "all
their fault."

[virgogal]

1. Link?

[stopschoolpaddling]

2. Link to what? You want to talk to my children?

[virgogal]

5. Of course not. The post has no information as to location,school,

when etc.

[Hannah Bell]

15. proof? you want proof, confirmation, facts? look elsewhere.

[mzteris]

3. it's the mindset in that area.

You saw the comments about that teacher - excuse me - paid instructor. Those people were blaming the kids and cheering on the old guy saying they should have been punished,

I'm sorry, but my kids would never step a foot inside one of those schools again. Even if they're not the ones getting paddled, they're exposed to the violence - and threat of violence - every single day. That's not a way to grow up.

[dchill]

4. Teachers?

We don't need no steenking teachers!

[mzteris]

8. oh shush -

Of course we need TEACHERS! what a ridiculous thing to say!

[dchill]

11. Didn't think I needed a...

sarcasm smilie - sorry. Maybe you never saw "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre." ("We don't need no stinking badges!")

:hi:

[mzteris]

12. oops - sorry -

it gets a little - um - heated in the ED forum and some people say all kinds of very odd things. One of which is that I supposedly have claimed to "hate all teachers". :eyes:

Gosh, I haven't seen that movie in - uh - a very long time!

[dchill]

13. Don't sweat it.

My daughter is a teacher.

:)

[Hannah Bell]

14. just public school teachers.

[soleiri]

6. She has the authority to send them to the principal's office

Does she have the authority to have them paddled?
Or is that a decision made by the principal?
Do they get paddled for talking during lunch? I mean, do you know this for a fact.
It must suck living in a community that condones paddling, it seems the school simply reflects that.

When my sons were in elementary school, they ate lunch in a multi-purpose room that had a stage.
The misbehaving students would be send up on stage, and they'd miss lunch recess.
It seemed to work. Has anyone suggested a lunch detention center instead of sending students to the principal's office?

[stopschoolpaddling]

7. Only the principal can authorize paddling. Parents have the right

to refuse this punishment but it seems harmful to me that all
the students are more than a little painfully aware that a
trip to the principals office could mean a whipping therefore
just suggesting this trip is filled with fear for most
students especially those who have already been the recipient
of the wooden instrument.
     Yes, depending on how it's classified, a first warning
for a disruption of any kind may result in this punishment.  
     I have a had a talk with the principal in which I stated
that according to my wishes and personal standard, she is
never to be alone in a room with any of my children since I do
not allow my children to be in the presence of violent
persons.
     She commented that I must think that she just goes around
paddling children all the time.  I told her that if a person
was able to commit this act even one time, on one occasion,
they were not fit to be around my children.  Period!!!  It
looks like now I am going to have to take this incident to the
superintendents office and write a letter to the editor
exposing their use of fear to control children.  Problem is,
no one really cares around here.  I guess it makes them feel
big and important to scare little children.  This place is
disgusting.

The school is Timbo Elementary in Timbo, Arkansas for those
who want to know.

[noamnety]

10. Can't tell you how much I respect that you were willing to do this:

"I have a had a talk with the principal in which I stated that according to my wishes and personal standard, she is
never to be alone in a room with any of my children since I do not allow my children to be in the presence of violent
persons.
She commented that I must think that she just goes around paddling children all the time. I told her that if a
person was able to commit this act even one time, on one occasion, they were not fit to be around my children."

That's a great point, and I'm glad you put it just like that to her. It's like a guy saying "why can't we go out alone on a date, I've only sexually assaulted a couple of women, and only rarely - it's not like I do it all the time!"

[Chemisse]

9. Maybe they should have a professional monitoring the lunchroom

It's not that easy controlling the behavior of a large group of children. Teachers are trained to do this and, in my state, manage just fine without spankings.

[stopschoolpaddling]

16. It's not like it's a whole lot of kids. Kindergarten has 9, 2nd grade has 15, and I'm not sure

about first grade be it's definately less than 20.  
     This is not the first time I have known about teacher's
losing their cool.  The last time it was directed at my son, a
teacher screaming, because he was standing on the side of the
school building after school.  Good grief, apparently standing
by the side of the building is strictly forbidden even when
your mom is standing on the side walk talking to your teacher.
 
     It's just a lack of class is what it is.  It just
insenses me to no end how they are turning this woman's
unprofessional behavior around and directly putting the blame
on the children.  
     I seriously doubt the children were being so loud.  The
problem here is that they are still stuck in the
"children should be seen and not heard" mentatlity.
     If they do get to loud, like you say, there are other
options.  Where we came from in Texas, the child would get a
warning and if that didn't help, they were moved to the silent
table where there was no one to talk to.

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. They probably aren't willing to pay a professional

Most districts I know of pay minimum wage to cafeteria workers.

[stopschoolpaddling]

18. Well, apparently, the principal isn't going to comment on the "shut up " incident.

The secretary told me she probably wouldn't because it wasn't
my kid who she said it to so it had nothing to do with me.  
     I told her when you scream it loud enough for my children
to hear it becomes my business.
I talked to the superintendent and he seamed like a much nicer
guy than this principal. There is nothing to do now but start
making all the preparations for a move.  I just can't see
being here anymore. These people are just too much. 
     The good news is after I pulled my little guy from the
crazy Kindergarten teacher's school last year, he is doing
great with the new one.  I told the superintendent that as
well.  On a scale of 1 to 10, I do give this particular
teacher a 10 and as you can imagine that's hard to get from me
around here. So atleast something positive has come out of
this school after all. 
     Yes, it's true not even in Arkansas can a school be
completely devoid of good decent teachers.