Does Iowa's decision help us in other states?

[dbackjon]

Does it give some cover for the California Supreme Court to overturn Prop 8?
Give a nudge in New Jersey for the Supreme Court to act on the findings that Civil Unions are NOT EQUAL

Persuade a few more Vermont Reps to override a veto?

Help out in Maine and NH?


I think this is big news - and helps in all counts.

[madaboutharry]

1. This may not be completely on topic, but

I honestly don't understand how people can think it is just to not treat gays and lesbians equally under the law. The rational people give for opposing gay marraige rights are so petty and small minded.

[Debi]

2. Depends on how the Constitution in other states was written

I haven't read the ruling yet ( only blurbs of it from news sites) but it seens the ISC went back to the Iowa Constitution to form it's opinion.

Other states will look to Courts like Iowa for guidance, that may help.

[Ian David]

3. I would say yes, but it also helps the anti-gay fundraising in other states.

Now they can point to Iowa being taken over by "teh gays" and scream that they have to stop the gay flood from destroying their marriages.

Because gays want to shove their agenda down your throat until equality dribbles down your chin, and your chest hairs are sticky with justice.

[Robeysays]

4. lolz

"Because gays want to shove their agenda down your throat until equality dribbles down your chin, and your chest hairs are sticky with justice."

[xchrom]

5. lol -- that's exactly how they see it. nt

[Stargleamer]

6. I'm hopeful that it will help us in other states

but even more, I hope it can overturn DOMA, through a constitutional challenge

[TechBear_Seattle]

7. Not directly, but yes

For one thing, the whole "loony left coast" theory has now vanished. For another, the more states that allow equal marriage, the less intimated other states will be in allowing them. It is kind of like wearing red hats with purple dresses: You need a lot of courage to be the first, but not so much when you are the fifth or sixth.

[dbackjon]

8. That is what I am thinking

Iowa, being a "normal, midwestern state" makes it much easier for other states to follow than CA, or Liberal Taxachusettes.

[Ian David]

9. Not even being able to get married there would lure gay people to Iowa anyway.

Unless you already own a farm there.



Come on, I'm kidding.

I have a newfound respect for Iowa today.

One that will last at least until the next ballot initiative to undo it.

[dbackjon]

10. which would be at the earliest, 2012, probably later

By then, too late.

[bluedawg12]

11. Yup. The Justices had very good arguments about how there is no proof

that same sex marriage harms society.

Plus, they were conservative and Republican.

Plus, there was no dissent.

And it set's a legal precedent by creating a body of common law that gets harder and harder to deny.

And, the fight continues on other fronts from the left, not only worry about the rabbi right, as Anderson Cooper mentioned tonight that now there are law suits in Mass. from same sex couples suing for Federal benefits.


Forget popularity contest horse and dog show votes, like Hate8 and the tyranny of the majority.

Forget our weak fellow Dem legislators who waffle and weaken on passing laws.

The laws are there-fight for them.

Go lambda and fight this in the Courts, it is a matter of justice and justice should not be left up to the people or pols.