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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:26 PM Original message |
Study Entices Thoughts Of Hands-On Healing |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. Oh. Well. If you don't know the answer, then it must be MAGIC... |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Yes, we are. Some more stupid (apparently) than others. n/t |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. There is a wealth of double-blind studies showing the efficacy of hands-on healing |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Oooga-booga!!!! I'll put a hex on you! |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. How dare you be too closed-minded to beliebe in magic! CLAP YOUR HANDS IF YOU BELIEVE IN FAERIES!N/T |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. If you don't clap loudly enough, tinkerbell will die! And it'll be YOUR FAULT!!! CLAP LOUDER!!!!! |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. No. There is not. And it won't convince me because I am not stupid. n/t |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
39. so... |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. No... |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. then we have no disagreement |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. No... |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. oh, well then you are just |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Deleted sub-thread |
valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. If this was real, it would be practiced by EVERYONE and would |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. because |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. I agree. Peer reviewed, reproduced studies. |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:15 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. again, i have no problem with that |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. How can you dismiss centuries of hand rubbing? People have |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:15 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. They;'re doing it wrong. They're supposed to use penises, not hands. n/t |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Enough with the manpoles. nt |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I prefer the term, "Biometric Energy Channeling Flesh Rod." n/t |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. hands on healing HAS been done for centuries n/t |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. By EVERYONE? Everyone rubs other people. Everyone should know |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I feel better after I get a lapdance. n/t |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Do pills work for everyone? n/t |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. No. But most poisons do. However, "The Evil Eye" usually doesn't. n/t |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. LOL. You're really quite funny when you lay off the manpole and urine stuff. nt |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Not as well as an axe to the skull works for everyone. But that's touching the wrong way, I guess. n |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. And Ghandi drank his own pee every day. Try it! n/t |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
37. actually |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. And they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. n/t |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. ... by somebody suitably ignorant. |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. so, you are saying Arthur C Clarke is "suitably ignorant" |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:11 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Arthur C. Clarke was a skeptic and would agree with me that THIS is not technology... |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. regardless |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:15 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. No, I did NOT call Arthur C. Clarke ignorant. n/t |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:11 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. No - I was correctly finishing the thought. Durr. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. We have woo-woo forums for a reason so that idiots don't embarass themselves too publicly. n/t |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #50 |
67. i agree |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. I brought a pineapple to the star god so that we can have a healthy summer. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Most human biometric energy is focused in the penis. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Save it for the OP, ninny. nt |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Sorry. I did not mean I would rub my penis on you. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. I lol'd. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
3. Deffinitively debunked years ago by a nine-year-old girl's science project published in JAMA. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
5. Published in Journal of Orthopedic Research June 2008 |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. None of those words actually mean anything. n/t |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. LOL n/t |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Seriously. n/t |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
14. Five years ago, I totally tore my left ACL (a major tendon in your knee). |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. A single anecdote does not evidence make. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. maybe do a published study, as was done here n/t |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. ONE study whose results will NEVER be duplicated because it's STUPID and IMPOSSIBLE. |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
15. Dupe. Sorry. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. what a great story! |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. delete |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Argument from authority. n/t |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. from a PUBLISHED STUDY |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Fleishman and Pons were published, too. So what? n/t |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. let's see |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. There are studies for THIS... |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
20. If anyone here believs all this stuff, please try this... |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
25. more from the article.... |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Enough already with this nonsense. Don't you have a "What do I |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Have something against peer reviewed professional journals?? n/t |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. No, just this one. It's wrong because it invokes magic. n/t |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. rubbish |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. No, it is not. It just seems like magic to stupid people who don't understand it. n/t |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #47 |
98. Truer words were never spoken. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. No, just magic thinking. Doesn't the current administration and its |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
31. And lots of Chinese fellows... |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
38. This is fun |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Deleted message |
valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
56. If this were real, it would have been practiced by EVERYONE and |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
72. What is truly amazing about such a study |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Actually, I think we agree on a lot |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. I don't understand why centuries of civilization wouldn't have |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. actually, it is not a secret |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Deleted message |
hvn_nbr_2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Well, actually... |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Oh, I'm sorry. Magic rubbing. nt |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Invoking the word "magic" |
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hvn_nbr_2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. In the land of the fake skeptic, name-calling is as good as proof... |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #76 |
89. Classic straw man. |
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hvn_nbr_2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #72 |
91. Ah, an open but skeptical mind. How rare in this forum. |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Good points. |
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Q3JR4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
79. Like this guy |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. People have been rubbing people ever since the dawn of, well, people. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. you are being silly |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Rubbing is rubbing. I'm not being silly. I'm being rational. nt |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. there isn't ANY rubbing |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Sorry. Magic "jazz" hands. I must have misunderstood the |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. It is GWB that does the rubbing when he touches |
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hvn_nbr_2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #84 |
96. Rubbing is rubbing. I just proved that Boy Scouts can't start fires by rubbing sticks. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #84 |
122. No you are not |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #122 |
123. yeah, you would think they would welcome studies like this |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. I don't "get" the attempted analogy |
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Q3JR4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. I'm saying that one |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. well, I agree with that |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 02:19 AM Response to Original message |
97. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. Debunking the nine year old girl |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #101 |
112. . |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. what they are saying is |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. They were community-based practitioners. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. and sounds like SERIOUS debunking to me |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Do you even know what words mean? |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 04:38 AM Response to Reply #118 |
120. And what do YOUR words mean-- |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Both are true. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
99. Daniel Boone was a woman! It's in a study! It must be real! nt |
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hvn_nbr_2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
100. There's something weird about this thread. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Yeah, a couple of people crossed the boundaries |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
103. Therapeutic Touch as been practiced for at least the last 30 years. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. there have been positive studies |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Right. |
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semillama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Wait a minute - you're saying there's a secret society |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. Um. yeah. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Do they have a secret hand shake |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. Are you replying in this way |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. If you can't tell, |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
107. And this is different from "God healed me"? how? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
108. Proper touching builds trust |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. best to get permission |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #111 |
119. Well that's it! I'm convinced! |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
124. Apparently, the significant results were only seen in one group of bone cells... |
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