Anyone here interested in pH issues??

[Celebration]

I think I remember telling about a friend who went on The Body Ecology diet and was able to hold back looming Type 2 diabetes (well it started as gestational diabetes). After that I read that taking probiotics has been shown in studies to reduce gestational diabetes. But an acid pH just hits whatever your weakest spot is, not just blood sugars. Anyway, there are tons of free resources on the web about pH in the body. I have some strips around that can test water in the swimming pool and checked urine and saliva and found out that like most people I am acidic. I haven't been testing it regularly, though, and the test strips aren't that accurate for the body.

Anyway, I was motivated to buy some different test strips, and I am going to start regularly checking my pH, and trying to keep it balanced and see what happens. Anyone want to join? I don't have that many health issues, but do have things like weak teeth enamel, and a recurring herpes thing, some skin stuff going on--plus my tennis shoes don't smell great. But mostly I am convinced that body pH is hugely important and virtually ignored by most mainstream practitioners. About all I have done so far about this is drink freshly squeezed vegetable juices and eat sauerkraut. Lemon water that I make myself first thing in the morning should help. I wouldn't want to get too alkaline though, so I am going to test urine and saliva a couple of times a day, once my strips come.

Anyone interested in trying this?

[WhiteTara]

1. keep talking to me

I'm not into doing anything right now. But I want to know more about your experience/experiment. If you could update every week or something, maybe even daily if it warrants. Then I won't have to experiment for myself, I can learn from you! Hope that sounds flattering and not lazy! :) But seriously, I do want to hear more!

[I Have A Dream]

2. Yes, I'd like to hear more as well.

If you have a positive experience, I think that I'd like to try it as well. :)

[BlueIris]

3. (Whispers) Um...where does one obtain test strips?

Pharmacy, health/wellness aisle, what?

[Celebration]

5. maybe all of the above??

I kind of doubt that our Walgreen's here has them but nationally they carry them. Some people found their test strips were fine. You could ask.

Their quality is an issue. My swimming pool strips don't really cut it for what I want. I looked on Amazon, read the reviews, looked for advice on YouTube, and decided to order some that were a bit more expensive. I think there are two colors to match up rather than one--one being more accurate for the lower pH, and one for the higher. One type was high rated but one reviewer claimed they were not accurate and thought it was because they sold other products related to the pH.

http://www.amazon.com/ColorpHast-9590-3-0-14-Test-Strips/dp/B003TV3GTY/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

I'm also going to ask at Walgreen's the next time I go. If they have some I will compare these two brands. I plan on testing urine and saliva at least a couple of times a day at first.

[Sanity Claws]

4. Keep us informed on how it goes

I have a friend who does it. Be careful about the kind of strips you get. She got two different brands and they gave different readings. If you are interested, I will find out from her what brand she uses. She gets it from a medical supply store.

[Celebration]

6. I know that's an issue!

I plan to compare a more expensive kind with a cheaper kind. Sure, would love to know the brand she uses, but I have already ordered some so no hurry.

I am well aware that the pH level in a swimming pool just makes a huge difference in the amount of algae growth, so it makes sense that it is important for the body. The pH scale is logarithmic and therefore what seems to be a small difference really isn't (the Richter earthquake scale is the same way).

[WhiteTara]

7. sounds exciting! n/t

[rucognizant]

8. Advice from a homeopathic friend............

SHe & I have both been doing reiki on a stage 4 cancer patient this year..............She grows medicinal herbs, and sells mixtures for various ailments.
Her statement; that acid supports & or breeds cancer.
SHe recommends lemon juice in a glass of water with a pinch of baking soda daily!
http://www.maineherbs.com/products.html

[Celebration]

9. I had the lemon water this morning!

Even without the pH strips. I didn't do the baking soda because I need to stay away from too much sodium.

Of course, my chaser is coffee ;)

Good for you for doing reiki on a cancer patient!

[kimmerspixelated]

10. Has the reiki helped the patient?

I'm very curious about Reiki.

[teenagebambam]

24. My sister is an oncology nurse

and Reiki practitioner. She swears by it for pain management in cancer patients. She, by her own admission, doesn't even "believe" in it....other than believing that it works!

[Flying Dream Blues]

15. That website looks great, rucognizant!

Those tinctures look really wonderful.
:hi:

[WhiteTara]

23. I working on the Ultra Metabolism diet

and daily...first thing. Olive oil and lemon juice. Vitamin C and lemon water before breakfast, so it's good to know why. Removing the acidity. My liver is really detoxing on this diet. The diet also includes a daily detox bath of epsom salts, baking soda and lavender oil and sauna and steam if possible.

[kimmerspixelated]

11. Flax seed oil and Cott cheese

mixed well together is an alkalizer used to treat cancer. Budwig protocol?

[Celebration]

12. Ha, I do a little bit of that too

but I use ricotta cheese instead. It tastes a lot better. I grind flax seed too.

But I don't do everything right. I do dairy products, meat, etc.

[kimmerspixelated]

13. I hear you.

My family loves meat and cheese and I try to avoid it, but mouths have to be fed.

[Celebration]

14. interesting experiment

I've been fooling with all this stuff off and on, not obsessing about it, but just noting things. Definitely the pH strips I ordered seem to work. They have four colors and I tend to read one of the middle ones. It probably depends where in the pH range you are which color seems the best to read. In general I feel worse, more tired and off when my urine pH is low. It seems to be 100% diet related--I knew sugar would be a big trigger for acid (low) pH but was surprised at how much red meat was..........fruit and vegetables are fine. I have probably moderately changed my diet, but now when I drink alcohol, or eat red meat, I make sure I have lemon or lime handy. I squeeze one lemon or lime in a big pitcher of water to drink between meals. It causes the low pH to rapidly go up. A few hours after the pH goes up I feel better too.

One reason I am posting this is that people were getting a terrible cold right and left before my daughter's wedding. She was over it before the wedding, though the groom had the cold by then. I was getting a terribly scratchy throat and was extremely tired. I had been taking EmergenC right and left to little avail. However a lime in some water turned my situation around immediately and it just went away. Coincidence? I don't know. But I am keeping lemon and lime around all the time!

But the other issue is saliva pH. Apparently the diet really doesn't affect saliva pH. I have done less experimenting with this, and I do also tend to have an acid pH. This is more related to digestive issues. The "cure" for this is supposedly taking digestive enzymes and/or acid BEFORE a meal, and coral calcium or Tums after a meal. I do have some digestive enzymes and try to remember to take them if I am going to eat a big meal, and I have been liberal in eating Tums. I haven't done a lot of followup in this area. Mostly websites say that for this part of it people could use a health care practitioner because your body can get too overly dependent on this type stuff. Personally I am not that concerned about it and mostly I forget the enzymes anyway. I do a better job with the Tums after the meal. Make sure you do not take Tums before a meal, however. I could use help on the saliva pH stuff because of dental issues.

Okay, such as it is, that is my experience. Mainly I am posting it because of the lime/cold experience. I didn't have my pH strips with me, but I can kind of predict my pH level anyway, by now.

Yes, I do have a swimming pool in my backyard, and dealing with algae, etc. has made me very cognizant of what varied pH levels in the pool can do. So the pH stuff just makes complete sense to me and I have no idea why MDs pay no attention to stuff like this.

[Flying Dream Blues]

16. I've been trying to work on my pH, too, Celebration.

I haven't been actually testing it, but have thought about buying the strips. Lemon water is great and I appreciate knowing about the pinch of baking soda!
:hi:

[findrskeep]

17. I have taught raw food classes and being alkaline is key.

The thing is, you have to basically eat or juice TONS of greens to get your body into an alkaline state. You can buy test strips at any drugstore. Also, research shows that cancer cells cannot survive in an alkaline environment.

[Celebration]

18. lemon or lime in water

Seem to work faster than green juice, which I now *try* to take once or twice a week. They didn't have pH strips at Walgreen's, or at least good ones. I have heard that about cancer cells. I wonder if it has to do with the type of cancer? I do think that some pathogens are more sensitive to pH issues than others.

Pretty sure that EmergenC tries to alkalanize, but it took lime juice that seemed to arrest my "cold".

Altering my whole diet drastically probably isn't in the cards, but I am going to try to drink lemon or lime in water every day, and continue to drink green juices when I can--AND take Tums after eating.

[WhiteTara]

26. what about soda as a neurtalizer?

I appreciate your statement above and am working on that, but I wouldn't mind a little help.

[Celebration]

28. well you can try it

And just test with pH strips to see if it works for you. If you try that I would certainly take it after a meal, not before (after all you need stomach acid to digest the food). Personally I am very sodium sensitive, and tend to get high blood pressure if I ingest it, so it wouldn't be for me. Thus the Tums.

If you know muscle testing or use your pendulum to get yes/no answers on food that can help too.

I don't obsess about all this, but do test pH a couple of times a week, sometimes twice in a day, depending on how I feel.

[Celebration]

19. I haven't been doing the baking soda

But I assume Tums after meals is about the same thing.

I can see now that some problems I have had (smelly tennis shoes!) probably have to do with being too acidic.

[teenagebambam]

25. I have eaten Tums like candy

for about thirty years, and still have smelly tennis shoes. So maybe it's the lemon/lime juice that does the trick? (I'm assuming the squeeze of lime in my vodka/cranberry isn't QUITE the same thing)

I JUST started digestive enzymes after having my gallbladder out, so we'll see what that does.....

[NuttyFluffers]

20. been drinking diluted drops 3% Hydrogen Peroxide (w/o additives) lately.

probably a horrible thing to do, so don't any of you listen to me at all.

however, i've been having horrible, lingering infections for months now. been trying EVERYTHING, and not really doing so hot. however these few drops of H2O2 in a glass of water thing has been really, really impressive for me. Hydrogen Peroxide 3% is safe enough to dilute for mouthwash, and sometimes you swallow a bit of mouthwash. i might be imploding my innards with clear liquid death, but to be honest, i've never felt such a fast and positive turn around in my life. ever.

since the body does create minute amounts of H2O2, and some mountain spring waters have trace amounts of the stuff too, perhaps it isn't insta-liver failure in a bottle. and my pH has improved considerably. but please, don't take any medical advice from me. i'm liable to next agree that gin fizz and midori sours are health tonics for what ails you. mmm, midori sours...

[Celebration]

21. Here is what I use (same caveats that you have)

http://www.liquid-stabilized-oxygen.com/

Not sure exactly what it does to pH, but it muscle tests so strong that I put it in my coffee every morning. It turns coffee from muscle testing negative for me to positive. Sometimes I put it in the lemon or lime water too.

[WhiteTara]

27. I have lots of friends who do that

it's never been something that I'm attracted to.

[kimmerspixelated]

22. There's a book about the Hydro Peroxide Cure.

It makes perfect sense. The body needs oxygen. I think one has to be careful, though. I tried to find food grade hydro peroxide, and they no longer carry it in health food stores.You have to buy it online. The reg. kind available is cheap but might be laced with aluminum. Did you have any side effects from the hydro p in your water?