southerncrone
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Thu Mar-03-11 12:32 AM
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| Rick... Charlie Sheen, an example of Pluto in action for all to witness. |
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For those of you who didn't catch the interview w/Charlie Sheen, it was a prime example of Pluto manifesting in ones life. He is so completely done with the false-front fakeness of Hollywood & the whole "game-playing" that goes on there, & in our society in general. He continually stated that he was just BEING Charlie Sheen.......take it or leave it. He made no apologies for it. Why should he? And we shouldn't apologize for being who WE are either!
I know there a many psychologists claiming he showed indications of being bi-polar, which he may be. But the irony is it's because they don't understand how radically Pluto can strip one clean of any pretense of playing-nice or being a fake. Stripped clean & proud of it.
Although many of us may not make the choices that Charlie has, I believe he is serving as a role model to the rest of the world when it comes to breaking out of the false-front world that most of us live in for the "sake of appearances". He even took some jabs at his Catholic upbringing & the "power structure of Hollywood". (Pluto in Capricorn) :nuke:
I don't have his chart, but do know he is a Virgo, so feeling a lot of oppositional pull from a truckload of planets in Pisces, which may explain his numerous current challenges.
Another thing I noticed was he frequently said...."move forward", or "go forward" & "bring it". (Uranus in Aries)
He even took a drug test during the interview to prove that he was clean. I have a whole new respect for him on a personal level.
May we all just BE WHO WE ARE!
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Thu Mar-03-11 10:52 AM
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| 2. Consider other factors |
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I think you're analysis is right on.
In addition, the bi-polar if that is what it is is expressed through the carefree Moon in Sag. accentuated by a Jupiter in Gemini dumping out on a mutable Chiron in Pisces. Thinks he's God in some ways. Drugs alcohol.
The rx Saturn is the key (distant father image) opposite his Sun. Dying for feedback/attention from dad. Insatiable need for that fails with attention from audience. LIke you said, Pluto, Uranus in Aries.
Saturn just pivoted on his Venus, that was more of a problem than people think. GET REAL WITH YOUR SOCIAL LIFE.
Self-denial bs life, is the Virgo denial and attempted water off my back Moon in sag, which is also why he gets away with it. People KNOW he's a good guy deep down.
PL just squared his Venus in the 10th harmonic chart (career) fall from grace. Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
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Thu Mar-03-11 09:47 PM
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| 8. I've closely looked at all of his charts |
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Secondary progressed Saturn sits exactly opp. his natal Sun. That's tough and in his 6th harmonic he is having his PLUTO return, now, that's dangerous and makes the most sense of anything. He look sunken like cancer patients often look.
Blessings to him and his recovery
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Fri Mar-04-11 08:53 PM
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I look at his energy and can see that it is ... well, shrinking on him I guess is the best way I can put it. And the smaller and closer it gets to his physical body the more "shrunken" he looks. His talk about how great he is may be a direct reflection of his inner self knowing how small his energy is getting.
I don't know if that made any sense...does anyone else see this?
Annette
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Fri Mar-04-11 09:59 PM
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he's becoming a shell of himself due to "failing" in Pluto's eyes Ultimately, I believe it's his early years damage, leading a false life and not having the courage or skills to take ownership of his situation. THerefore, he goes off into LaLa land.
Hopefully, he's now at the bottom and can turn it around. I hope
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Fri Mar-04-11 11:27 AM
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| 12. Something about untreated bi-polarism, the seeking |
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out of drugs and other behavior palliatives, is a subconscious way of self-medicating. If Charlie gets a good shrink, who points these behaviors out to him, and gets him the right medication, it will go a long way in helping him out. Right now, being sober is bringing his mind devils to the surface and his mania is really apparent. He really needs medication but the right kind and under a doctor's care. Quite honestly, he should smoke pot as well.
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Thu Mar-03-11 05:20 PM
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| 3. I think there's something really wrong with him this time |
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He's already been down twice before. If he goes down again, like he did in 1998, he won't be coming back.
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Thu Mar-03-11 05:46 PM
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I think that comebacks are always an option. Robert Downey Jr seems to have mastered them.
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Thu Mar-03-11 05:51 PM
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| 5. I'm not talking "comeback" in terms of his career |
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his show is more popular than ever & if CBS is smart, they'll put his show back into production with him in it because when *that* show hits the air, the ratings will be astronomical.
He's not nuts asking for $3 million an episode, since CBS & the production company are making $ hand over fist with his show.
He just doesn't "look" well to me.
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Thu Mar-03-11 09:29 PM
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| 6. I agree, I don't think he looks well at all |
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and I don't have a good feeling about the situation when I look at him. He looks jaundiced too, did anyone notice that?
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Thu Mar-03-11 09:36 PM
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| 7. I noticed also that he looked rather ill |
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Kind of "strung-out" ill. I am sure stress has not helped.
I pretty much just ignore the Sheen stories....I don't like being a voyeur to other people's miseries because I begin to "feel" it.
I wish him well.
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Fri Mar-04-11 07:25 AM
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it seems everyone is loving sitting around, pointing & laughing along with the guy or at him, when all these alarm bells are going off in my head.
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Fri Mar-04-11 02:25 PM
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| 13. Making fun of suffering...bad karma thing to do. |
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Fri Mar-04-11 07:47 AM
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| 11. Agreed - very gaunt, missing a tooth ... |
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... he looks like a walking "meth bust mugshot".
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Sat Mar-05-11 03:25 PM
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| 16. Charlie was talking about how AA is a cult with single-digit success percentiles |
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(May have mis-heard the percentile number.) This is classic behaviour for certain folk who might benefit from such programs.
Go Charlie. To where you may best benefit...
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