Dems who voted FOR FISA and Telecom Immunity

[TayTay]

Alphabetical by Senator Name

Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Casey (D-PA), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Obama (D-IL), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Webb (D-VA), Yea
Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea

[beachmom]

1. Obama looks really out of place there. Sigh. nt

[ProSense]

6. He does.

Hillary voted the right way, but I can't help but think she's pandering. Daou posted her comment on D-Kos, I posted it in GD-P. Strange how she doesn't speak out visibly against the bill, but is now posturing with this statement.

[Inuca]

9. I doubt it means anything, but

on the cloture vote she first voted AYE and then changed her vote.

[karynnj]

11. That could just be an error - I've seen that happen many times

including Kerry at least once - it is likely easy to think a different procedural vote is being taken - then realize as you hear how others are voting - that you were not voting for what you thought you were. There's no advantage I can think of in terms of doing it.

[Inuca]

10. Sigh indeed

rationally he may have made the right choice, I have no idea, but I felt like sighing over and over. Basically, all he did was vote for the 3 amendments, as far as I know (I did not check, but I followed a lot on CSPAN) he did not even cosponsor any of them, not even Bingaman's relatively mild one.

OTOH, I was impressed with Specter these last couple of days. The poor guy looks like hell, and I assume does not feel much better either, but he was tenacious and with what sounded like very authentic outrage. I know he did not vote for Dodd-Feingold, but to my non-lawyerly understanding, his own amendment sounded like a decent alternative. In any case, I think he was quite admirable on all this.

[Mass]

2. Some heads exploded on GD and GDP today,

Particularly those who create heros without looking at their records.

[beachmom]

4. Really? I didn't think any of them were darlings of DU. Webb

was for a while, but I think he was more favored on other sites. Webb voted for the original FISA "fix" a year ago, so this was no surprise.

[Mass]

5. Webb had a lot of heads explode. I am not saying that they should not have known, but

they prefer to be ignorant of facts and continue to live in their illusions.

[karynnj]

12. There a WHOLE disheartened by Webb thread

I think they were surprised that he even voted against the amendment to strip immunity. But, this seems to happen all the time - though over time I think people will get the picture.

[MBS]

3. a very sad list. n/t

[MBS]

7. here are the NAYS-- thank you, Sen. Kerry

a couple of nice surprises here (Reid decided to stand up to this in the end!)
glad also that Byrd voted nay (totally consistent with his philosophy but he hadn't voted on cloture. . ).

Boxer, Dodd, Feingold, and Kerry are no surprise, but pleased me anyway.
Sen. Kerry is standing taller than ever today.Thanks again, Sen. Kerry .




NAYs ---28
Akaka (D-HI)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Wyden (D-OR)

[MBS]

8. JK described as "one of the usual brave ones" on GD

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3588509
SharonRB at #18:

The usual brave ones vote nay: Feingold, Boxer, Schumer, Dodd, Leahy, Kerry, etc.

glad to see him recognized this way.

[karynnj]

13. yeah - but Schumer - a brave one!

Still I don't care - she included Kerry

[JI7]

14. i wonder if this means Biden is out as VP pick

the same for Clinton.

[Inuca]

16. Are you serious?

about Biden I mean. Why would that be the case?

[sandnsea]

15. Change Minds, Change Votes

The case wasn't made to the American people. We've got to communicate better, that's all there is to it.

[Inuca]

17. Did you see the Feingold interview on Countdown

yesterday? Kind of interesting, though I am not quite sure what to make of it. I do not remember the exact details, but very vituperative against FISA, but also saying that things can still change under a new administration, and conciliatory about Obama's vote.

[MBS]

18. I saw it, too, wondered what might be in the background there. .

was he genuinely hopeful, or just being politically diplomatic or is there some behind-the-scenes stuff there?

[Inuca]

19. Just saw on KOS

that the ACLU plans to sue on FISA as soon as Bush signs it http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/9/19461/10970/131/549043

[YvonneCa]

20. Hopeful...

...is my take. Remember the DNA thing? Kerry voted 'No'. ;)