For those of you who had questions about voter turnout in Ohio

[ladym55]

I have an article posted on Truthout that you might find interesting.

http://www.truthout.org/111808VA

It talks about ALL the work that went into allowing the citizens of Ohio to vote in 2008. This segment particularly jumped off the page at me:

The GOP's 2008 electoral strategy again emphasized massive voter disenfranchisement and rigging the electronic vote count. The twin tactics very nearly gave Ohio to McCain/Palin, and threatened to set precedents capable of winning them the national election.

Prior to the 2004 vote, Republican Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell stripped some 308,000 Ohio citizens from the registration rolls in heavily Democratic districts. This mass disenfranchisement alone may have accounted for the 118,000-plus official margin that gave George W. Bush a second term in the White House.

And this one:

Despite an increase of 319,000 registered Ohio voters in 2008 over 2004, the official turnout was actually lower. Barack Obama received 22,000 fewer votes than John Kerry. John McCain got 317,000 fewer than Bush. Election protection experts attribute this to a selective GOP padding of the 2004 vote count, especially in three heavily Republican southwestern counties where irregularities and improbabilities abounded.

And we wonder why the numbers and percentages are hard to understand. We have a long way to go to clean up the mess and corruption left by the Republicans.

[ginnyinWI]

1. And nobody wants to revisit that election now.

People hate to think that the wrong guy got elected so they won't go back and look at it closely. Vote padding, vote switching, and disenfranchisement certainly gave the chimp a second term and denied JK what was rightfully his.

[MarjorieG]

2. Why do media seem to relish in Kerry loss, equate Mccain's with his, and then today's Maureen Dowd.

Media would have to look inward at it's complicity if they rethought the JK narrative.

Again MoDo today with 'pompous' Kerry this and that. There is something beyond her normal bite when it comes to JK. I get angry each time reading that stuff, when I should ignore it as he probably does. Curious to learn the why of her resentments.

[ginnyinWI]

9. yeah I stopped reading Dowd.

She dishes it out to Dems as much as Repubs. I've got better things to do than be irked by her. It was probably some insult at Kerry that got me to quit reading--that's still a real sore spot with me!

[sandnsea]

3. three southwestern counties

uh-huh. One of which appears to have lost half its voters this year, or at least one of the counties in the same area.

[MarjorieG]

4. Despite legit population loss, there was padding across the country, more votes than voters, because

the GOP was determined to get the popular vote and winner argument. Stuff was done each state, but also enough in red states to give the total a false kick with phantom votes.

[fedupinBushcountry]

5. Agree 100%

[sandnsea]

6. I didn't notice more votes than voters

I noticed strange voter registration increases in heavily red counties, one being the county that turned around and supposedly lost half its population between 2004 and 2008.

[MarjorieG]

7. Ohio more about disenfranchisement, machine allocation, purging of names, but phantoms across the..

country, like Alaska, huge undervotes of Hispanic and Native American in NM (which can be done electronically).

The biggest reason given for OH theft is the Warren closing due to bogus security alert, and OH results on TN server of the RNC. Total manipulation. means that precincts can be diligent, but lost on central tabulator (by error or fraud). Ballot programming is not easy.

[sandnsea]

8. Warren is one of the southwest counties

with the weird registration fluxuations.