I was wrong, he is running again, see article

[TayTay]

Interesting stuff. Must be a heck of a phone bill coming for Jan.

http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Campaign/011205.html

[vinessa4freedom]

1. ooooooooo

I'm feeling tingly. So early to say anything, so so early. But can I just have a moment to get really excited in light of all the JK bashing recently?

:bounce: Thank you. I haven't bounced in so long I just needed that.

[angrydemocrat]

2. OH HELL YEAH!!!

WOOOO HOOOOO :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: I knew he would! I knew my hero wouldn't give up! Hell Yes! This is going to be a happy day!


"FOR AMERICA, THE HOPE IS THERE! THE SUN IS RISING! OUR BEST DAYS ARE STILL TO COME!!"


JOHN KERRY AND THE KERRYCRATS :yourock:

[New Earth]

3. it's gonna be hard for him though

so many people are pissed at him over this election. i just hope that over time they calm down, and he does a lot of things the next few years to get their respect back. b/c if he doesn't, i don't think he has a chance.

[seito]

4. A lot will depend on what he does in the next 2+ years

The thoughts expressed at DU tend to be more extreme that the Democratic Party as a whole.

[GRLMGC]

5. Yeah

but, and I say this w/ love for my party and what it stands for, the Democratic party is full of backbiters who love to eat their own. I wonder how they'll treat Kerry in the future. Will they write him off as a loser who should never have another opportunity? Probably. I see him doing a lot of great things but I wonder if he'll be able to overcome the obstacles that he will inevitably face.

[TayTay]

6. Geez, I had a geeky reaction

I went to the MA Constitution and wanted to know if a candidate can run for two offices at once. (Run concurrently.) Don't know. IF not, then we in Ma would have to find a Senator. Hmmm, we already need to find a new Gov. This would be very interesting.

Slinking away in geeky slime.....

[angrydemocrat]

17. Why Are Kerrycrats Starting To Let The Naysayers Get The Best Of Them

Yes there are people pissed over this election no doubt. But not everyone blames John like all the naysayers here at DU. This place is full of Kerry haters but as I understand it was before and during the primaries as well. But these are the same one's that had him dead in the water before he ever got started. But the fact is there is more still supporting and encouraging John to run than not. That's not saying his supporters didn't get or still aren't pissed over the election. But most people understand that what happen was not John's fault and he's not the enemey as he is made out to be at DU. John did the best he could and like everyone that supported him he worked his ass off. And people are not ready to toss a good leader to the trash and say well that's it your day's are over, see ya. The man still has more people supporting him than what he is given credit for.

Sure the man has work to get done. I do believe the man is already out there doing that right now and will continue to do so. This man is a worker and a fighter. John hasn't given up on anthing this fight is far from over and he hasn't stopped working on what has to be done and won't. Hell he is being more presidential than that illiterate dumbass that is a occupier at the White House is. He has worked harder than Chimp ever thought of working. And people see that all the time. And if you think for one minute you have seen the last of John Kerry and if you really believe "he doesn't stand a chance" well all I can say is you are fooling yourself. Because he stands as good a chance as anyone else for that matter. But they have have did survey after survey and poll after poll since this election ended and John and Hilliary are the two top runners in those that Democrats want to run for president in 2008.

John will be fighting and fighting hard in the Senate to get what needs to be done, sucessfully done. John knows what he is doing and how to go about doing things to get the best results and he will. What happen to all the faith and positive energy you had? Why do you have all these doubts now? Is it because of all the naysayers, media? Because nows not the time to start doubting the man. He hasn't done anything that would make him any less of a leader now than what he would have been he had won. You have to keep faith and "Believe" not start having doubts. John is still very well supported and respected all across this country. I know you wouldn't believe that from being around DU but then again you wouldn't have believed he would have come as far as he has if you believed the atmosphere here. So hang in there and by all means stay positive.

"FOR AMERICA, THE HOPE IS THERE. THE SUN IS RISING. OUR BEST DAYS ARE STILL TO COME!"

John Kerry and the Kerrycrats:yourock:

[whometense]

7. Well, I greet this news

with a big grin.

Best thing I've heard all week.

I'm still licking my wounds, and he's ready to run again. I am such a wimp.

[ginnyinWI]

8. JK reminds me of the old adage--

"You can't keep a good man down!" ;)

[vinessa4freedom]

9. don't let WEL hear you say that, Ginny...

I think she'll take it the wrong way. LOL--just kidding WEL.:7

[ginnyinWI]

14. lol

you're right....must be careful around HERE.....;)

[bunny planet]

10. Great news!!!!

Don't you think it's time for Democrats to have some loyalty to their candidates. The Republicans will run a candidate over and over again until they get elected or have to resign in ignominy. If we 'frame' it less that JK lost (which of course he really didn't) then he was a strong candidate and we still believe in him, that would be the ticket. I agree, that a lot has to happen between now and 2006 to help other Dems keep an open mind for John to run again. Something tells me that he will be a powerhouse in the Senate right out of the box.

Next time, they won't have the SBV Liars to throw at him either, and if they try it again, he will decimate them.

I hope he sues them in the meantime.

I believe in John Kerry! I feel some floatacular devices coming on....


:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[whometense]

15. I'm in absolute agreement

on that point. If Dean gets DNC chair I wonder who the Deaniac crazies will back for prez? Kucinich?

[JI7]

11. i don't believe it means much

they often take something and make it into more than it is.

if Kerry runs again the dnc chair wont be much of an issue, and neither will the issue of contesting the election or whatever many people on DU think is a big thing.

what will be toughest for him is competing in the south. since he couldn't win any southern states it will be easy to use that against him by other candidates running.

[TayTay]

12. True, but

It's all the other stuff combined with this. More later.

[JI7]

13. oh, i'm sure he is still considering running

i know he really wants to be President. but he is also smart enough to know what his chances are and what will get in the way and whether he can over come it. one thing i'm sure is that he wont run just to run but he will do it only if he really thinks he has a chance. just like in 2004.

[whometense]

16. Oooh, the suspense...

"other stuff"? What does this mean??

[vinessa4freedom]

18. Yeah, TayTay

I have a meeting in a half hour and I keep checking in to see the news before I go... Come on. A nibble?

[TayTay]

19. Oh gawd, I was misunderstood

I'm going to take a printout of those posts and put them over my desk at work with a caption, "Do not post from work. You say short and meaningless things that will only annoy people."

I have no secret knowledge. I was piecing together the knowledge that is already out there. Forming the PAC. (Big sign that there are hooks in the water.) Today's report from Roll Call. (another sign, not indicative in and of itself, but another hook in the water and a rather big one.) Lack of a denial that this is going on. His brother said he might. Lack of a denial from anyone who ever knew or worked for him. His daughters on Larry King saying, I'd do it again. (A big hook. They have a lot to sacrifice in another campaign.) All former aides (even the weasel ones) saying 'yeah, but if he runs then he has to kiss my ass and pay my fees cuz I got different advice now and this time it's good.' And so forth. In other words, I'm just reading the tea leaves. Yesterday, I thought 35% chance. Today I think 55-60%. (Warning, the taytay-ometer of chance of running won't go higher than 70% until 2007.) So, I now strongly entertain the chance that JK will run again.

But I'm only human, not Punxsutawney Phil. I could be wrong.

What say you?

[angrydemocrat]

20. Keep The Good News Rolling Tay Tay

Tay Tay now own up wether others believe us or not we know John well enough to know he will be running in 2008.

[TayTay]

21. It would certainly be interesting

First of all, remember that all we have right now are the tea leaves. It is too soon for anything else. The Dems in general have to work their way back from the perception that the last election was so bad that we are all doomed. (Gawd, I hate that. Kind of a Debby Downer thing. Hmmm, Debby Downer must work as a pundit, or a Deaniac.)

This is no more or less doable than anyone else's campaign. There is a lot of time between now and 2008. (Or 2007 when decisions will be finalized.) So much work to be done. But there are exciting things going on. Yes, I'm serious. I am feeling oddly hopeful, not just in here, but for Dems. I truly believe that there is a turning point coming. There is good news on opposing the destruction of Social Security by the Rethugs. Dems are uniting against these regressive proposals. I am getting the feeling that the MSM is starting to grow a spine and is beginning to actually report some of the bad news on the * Admin. (Somebody leaked that report today that we are no longer looking for WMD and that the final report says they never existed. And the Washington Post, which had it's lips firmly planted against *'s ass when he proposed the war printed it immediately.) The only thing lower than *'s poll ratings are the poll ratings of Rethugs in Congress. Christine Gregoire got sworn in today and the Rethugs looked ridiculous in their election protests. (When they do it, they are preserving democracy; when we protest we are sore losers. What a crock.)

None of these prognostications matter yet. What matters is that Dems stand up and do their job. Make the Bushies sweat. (We lack the votes to affect policy right now, so we have to become highly effective pains in the ass. Get the message across about how incompetent and harmful this admin's policies have been and continue to be.) I think JK will start making the press rounds starting next week or the week after. (Next week is ideal, as he will be on that panel that questions Condi for Sec of State.) Be of good cheer, there are good things that will happen.

[angrydemocrat]

23. OOOHHH I'm Always Upbeat And Of Good Cheer

When it comes to Mr. John Forbes Kerry! I may not be from Massachusetts but you would think I was with having my favorite politician being there and knowing as much as I do about him. I know what this man is capable of, I know how the man works, and I have pretty damn good insight on how he thinks as well. So trust me I'm the last one you will have to remind to stay upbeat and of good cheer! And I know we have alot of good things yet to come.

John will have chimp and the repukes wishing thet never heard the name Kerry before all is said and done. I know that and you know that. If you know the real John Kerry you know the best is yet to come. He sort of has a habit of saving the best for last. That has always been a trait of his. But it's not me that needs convincing. I just love hearing all the latest news and keeping up because I don't to miss anything when it comes to this man. Oh no, he is just to exciting to let that happen.

"FOR AMERICA, THE HOPE IS THERE. THE SUN IS RISING! OUR BEST DAYS ARE STILL TO COME!"

[vinessa4freedom]

22. When he hears our rally cry

how could he not run again? We'll be ten times louder and work ten times harder than those dribbly naysayers. (people who were pro-Kerry until the election. And they say HE flip-flops. Grrrrr! Dropping your candidate like a hot potato is flip-flopping if I've ever seen it). I'll start going door to door right now, where do we sign up to canvas? Give me the phone list. Let's start writing letters now, telling him we want him to run. Since he will be successful in reforming the electoral process, there will be nothing to stop him. They can't win if they don't cheat, unlike our John Kerry, who did win, except got cheated.

[angrydemocrat]

24. AMEM SISTER AMEN!!

I'm ready to go! All John has to say is "I need" and this is one women and her whole family that will be there! I'm ready to go at it now! Whatever John needs me to do I will do it!

[WildEyedLiberal]

25. I will work my ass off for him

And I mean it. WE'RE the supporters who count - we're the ones who love our candidate. I think the naysayers do more harm than good, because it isn't enough to be anti-Bush; you had to be pro-Kerry. Same goes for whoever the pukes get in 2008.

[vinessa4freedom]

26. I'm really optimistic

that the hidden message in the "reforming" is exposing the fraud. One way or another, the truth will come out. I wonder when it becomes evident that we aren't just :tinfoilhat: people will realize he won, and that he can win again.

[whometense]

27. I think he's running.

He's a determined guy, and "losing" energizes him. I know the type - I'm not built that way, but my husband and two sons are. Nothing discourages them when they are in pursuit of their goals. But NOTHING. And we're talking about competing in very tough, ego bruising fields. Adversity just gets their blood pumping.

Care to see my notes?

1. He knows damn well there was fraud, and he's planning to take the *'s down twig by twig. Just like BCCI. I think he's multitasking.

2. As TayTay said earlier, I wouldn't want to have to pay his cell phone bill. He may be in the Middle East, but he's pulling strings long distance like crazy.

3. On a personal note, I can't wait to see a second Kerry campaign. It will be very different from the first. This is a man who learns from experience.

4. If he does want to run in '08 he won't allow his profile to recede. He'll be front and center a lot of the time - his biggest advantage are his name recognition and the intense devotion (the media to the contrary) he inspired in a whole lot of people. He'll be building on that base.

We should not let DU fool us. The big wide dem and independent world is full of a lot more of us than of orange-hatters. JK told the truth, and every day people will be forced a tiny bit more to face the degree to which they've been had.

[vinessa4freedom]

28. I'm going to print off your list if you don't mind...

and use it as my daily affirmation.:)

On that positive note, I have to disconnect, so my hubby can work. Have a GREAT night everybody! :hi:

[whometense]

29. aw, thanks vinessa!

I'm flattered! Good night! :-)

[TayTay]

30. Nicely put

You and I have been constituents for a long time and have seen the fortitude of which you speak. (Gawd, I used to hear Kerry described by local wise guys as being like one of those kid's punching bags that are filled with sand so they always pop up again. Guy won't stay down for the count. Always pops back up.)

That article today was very interesting. Kerry is obviously building bridges with Dean. The suspect Newsweek article said that Kerry was very interested in building up the grassroots and was fascinated with the possibilities that grassroots organizing presents. This is great stuff, not just for Kerry but for all Dems. We have the leaders sharing some info, starting to get on the same page, trying to figure out how to engage the rank and file. That's why I'm happy. This is good news! This is how you start to build winning coalitions, not by whining about each other but by trying to get together and share info.

I am not mindlessly happy (couldn't help myself.) There are reasons for this.

[whometense]

31. Thanks - great image

Kerry is a weeble!!

I wrote this really tight post this afternoon for our blog about Dean and Kerry and all the hatred that's out there. Looked it over, thought it was good, hit the publish button, and...pfffft...gone. So I'm in frustrated writer mode. (and btw, WHEN will I learn to write - and save - my stuff in Word first??????)

I keep thinking about Dean and the orangehats. I keep thinking about lefty freepers and just plain old freepers. I read somewhere today, and unfortunately can't remember where - wait, I found it. It was on Donkey Rising.

Jill Lawrence argues in USA Today that Democrats keep nominating men of sterling character (Gore, Kerry) whose character the Democrats' inexplicably fail to defend against a deliberate Republican strategy of character assassination. She suggests that Democrats' just don't take character seriously enough and think they can deflect these attacks by talking about "issues".

I dunno - it's late, and I'm real tired. The first thought I had this am when I hear dDean had announced for DNC chair was, great, he doesn't want to run for prez. I don't think he'd have a prayer of winning, just dreaded the potentiol divisiveness that might well ensue.

Ok, shutting up now. G'night.